That they chose Nathan to be the first one to die from the virus. I guess because he is the brother of one of the main characters so they wanted to make it dramatic for Peter?
I DON'T WANT NATHAN TO DIE!
He is so much better this season...more himself, involved and caring for others, and he still needs to live long enough to enjoy his time with his brother!
I hope he will stick around..anyone?
If you were to choose...who would you rather have die FIRST instead of Nathan?
Full Version: First Hero to DIE from the virus!
He wasn't the first one to die, he was one of the first ONES to die.
I think Niki is the first to die...
I think Niki is the first to die...
QUOTE (kitty @ Nov 6 2007, 09:44 AM) 
He wasn't the first one to die, he was one of the first ONES to die.
I think Niki is the first to die...
I think Niki is the first to die...
OK, nevermind...lol.
But that still doesn't mean Nathan won't die, which I am upset about as well...
QUOTE (kitty @ Nov 6 2007, 09:50 AM)
But that still doesn't mean Nathan won't die, which I am upset about as well...
Yeah, I had the dialogue on low so I didn't hear Angela well. So I mistook her for saying he was the first one to die...from the outbreak. But yeah, it sucks...
He wont die. Adam may save him again. He'll need to completely win Peters trust, so Id say healing his brother would more then likely do that.
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He wont die. Adam may save him again. He'll need to completely win Peters trust, so Id say healing his brother would more then likely do that.
dude... Adam can heal himself, not other people...
QUOTE (kitty @ Nov 6 2007, 10:13 AM)
dude... Adam can heal himself, not other people...
Then why would they need Claire to save Niki?
I also don't want to see Nathan die... he is my favorite character... boo
QUOTE (Jenae @ Nov 6 2007, 12:15 PM)
Then why would they need Claire to save Niki?
I also don't want to see Nathan die... he is my favorite character... boo
I also don't want to see Nathan die... he is my favorite character... boo
It's in the blood. Claire can heal so the virus does not affect her. Use her blood to make a cure.
QUOTE (Curious_observer @ Nov 6 2007, 10:20 AM)
It's in the blood. Claire can heal so the virus does not affect her. Use her blood to make a cure.
I agree... which would mean Adam would be able to help heal other people with his blood...
When Niki injected herself I thought she injected Nathan cause I was spoiled. I was like, "No, Nathan!" But then I SAW it was her arm and I was relieved...for now. Sorry, Niki I know you are just as important. But Nathan is my man.Lol.
QUOTE (Curious_observer @ Nov 6 2007, 11:20 AM)
It's in the blood. Claire can heal so the virus does not affect her. Use her blood to make a cure.
Or maybe once they start playing around with the Virus and Claire's blood they make it so the virus is unstoppable.
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It's in the blood. Claire can heal so the virus does not affect her. Use her blood to make a cure.
got it. See, I didn't get why they needed Claire in the first place...
I didn't listen to any of the dialogue when Peter was in the future. I didn't want any spoilers.
Claire's blood as the cure and it mutating the virus is a very fascinating concept. It will be interesting to see if that is what happens. It makes me wonder if they used Hiro's blood as a cure, if the virus would start jumping through time?
Claire's blood as the cure and it mutating the virus is a very fascinating concept. It will be interesting to see if that is what happens. It makes me wonder if they used Hiro's blood as a cure, if the virus would start jumping through time?
QUOTE (Exodio @ Nov 6 2007, 01:45 PM)
I didn't listen to any of the dialogue when Peter was in the future. I didn't want any spoilers.
Claire's blood as the cure and it mutating the virus is a very fascinating concept. It will be interesting to see if that is what happens. It makes me wonder if they used Hiro's blood as a cure, if the virus would start jumping through time?
Claire's blood as the cure and it mutating the virus is a very fascinating concept. It will be interesting to see if that is what happens. It makes me wonder if they used Hiro's blood as a cure, if the virus would start jumping through time?
We've got a theory around here that everytime someone gets infected the virus mutates to incorporate their powers.
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
If Claire and Adam have the same ability, then Adam can be a cure as well. His blood will save Nathan. Peter will be so indebted to him that he will help him. Remember, Linderman was Adams deciple. Linderman Healed Heidi for Nathan to make sure he did his part. Adam will do the same to Peter to make sure he helps him with his plans.
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I didn't listen to any of the dialogue when Peter was in the future. I didn't want any spoilers.
I don't think it was a spoiler... I think it was like.. the only glimpse into the future we'll have before they fix it.
QUOTE (Exodio @ Nov 6 2007, 12:45 PM)
I didn't listen to any of the dialogue when Peter was in the future. I didn't want any spoilers.
Claire's blood as the cure and it mutating the virus is a very fascinating concept. It will be interesting to see if that is what happens. It makes me wonder if they used Hiro's blood as a cure, if the virus would start jumping through time?
Claire's blood as the cure and it mutating the virus is a very fascinating concept. It will be interesting to see if that is what happens. It makes me wonder if they used Hiro's blood as a cure, if the virus would start jumping through time?
you didn't listen to the dialogue while peter was in the future?
that doesn't make any sense, watching the show is a spoiler?
QUOTE (Elemeno @ Nov 6 2007, 10:54 AM)
We've got a theory around here that everytime someone gets infected the virus mutates to incorporate their powers.
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
that would meen it would become air born if Nathan got infected. That is not good
QUOTE (Elemeno @ Nov 6 2007, 01:54 PM)
We've got a theory around here that everytime someone gets infected the virus mutates to incorporate their powers.
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
Brilliant, because it will be cured when they use Alejandro's blood.
I don't count things said in-show as spoilers. In 5YG, they said DL and Micah died in the explosion for one. DL had died, but not in any explosion, and Micah is fine. And those other few million people are fine too.
In 5 Years Gone, Micah probably did die in the explosion. Note, though, that Peter never said it was the explosion that killed DL, he just said "DL is gone!"
QUOTE (Elemeno @ Nov 6 2007, 10:54 AM)
We've got a theory around here that everytime someone gets infected the virus mutates to incorporate their powers.
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
I LOVE this theory!
But a) what happened when Shanti got the virus (was she the first?), and
how did Molly get it?
I think this theory is bunk, and here's why.
First of all, here's my explanation of Claire/Adam's power:
If that theory is true, then the power to regenerate is NOT in Claire's blood, or her blood would be respawning dozens of "Claires" every time her blood was spilled.
They are using Claire by injecting her with the virus. Claire's immune system will react to being attacked in one of three ways:
First of all, here's my explanation of Claire/Adam's power:
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It's quite simple:
Their powers are explicitly described as "cellular regeneration." It's exactly that:
Claire "died" when there was a stick lodged in her brain. The cells couldn't regenerate when the stick was where they were supposed to be, so she remained in that state. When the stick was removed, she was able to regenerate the cells, and her head healed.
Adam will cease to age because he is at his prime. Age is a form of cellular degeneration. Whenever a cell becomes damaged slightly (as in the normal process of aging), it is immediately regenerated to its original form, countering the aging.
Claire has aged because cellular regeneration inhibits degeneration, NOT growth. Once she is finished growing, she will remain in that state due to her power.
Theoretically, this would be possible if, through "activating evolution," every cell in her body has:
If every cell has the ability to replicate any other cell (which is apparent in the show), she ought to have spawned an entirely different "Claire" when she cut off her toe. Actually, any time she sheds a skin cell or has a period, it ought to regenerate a new "Claire."
This clearly doesn't happen. Therefore, the PTB must think that there is a "base" for her regeneration - the point from which all regenerations flow. The severed toe is separated from the "base," and therefore will not regenerate. This "base" could be a single cell, or a cluster of cells, I would imagine. It cannot be the brain, as Claire came back from the "dead" after severe head trauma. It would make sense that the "base" would be located somewhere in the brain or heart, but beyond that, any speculation is baseless (no pun intended).
Their powers are explicitly described as "cellular regeneration." It's exactly that:
Claire "died" when there was a stick lodged in her brain. The cells couldn't regenerate when the stick was where they were supposed to be, so she remained in that state. When the stick was removed, she was able to regenerate the cells, and her head healed.
Adam will cease to age because he is at his prime. Age is a form of cellular degeneration. Whenever a cell becomes damaged slightly (as in the normal process of aging), it is immediately regenerated to its original form, countering the aging.
Claire has aged because cellular regeneration inhibits degeneration, NOT growth. Once she is finished growing, she will remain in that state due to her power.
Theoretically, this would be possible if, through "activating evolution," every cell in her body has:
- Impossibly fast regeneration and replicaton
- "Unlocked" DNA: essentially, every cell in her body would have to act like a stem cell. This means that when a given cell replicates, instead of replicating itself (skin cells making more skin cells) ,it could replicate a skin, muscle, skeletal, etc. cell.
If every cell has the ability to replicate any other cell (which is apparent in the show), she ought to have spawned an entirely different "Claire" when she cut off her toe. Actually, any time she sheds a skin cell or has a period, it ought to regenerate a new "Claire."
This clearly doesn't happen. Therefore, the PTB must think that there is a "base" for her regeneration - the point from which all regenerations flow. The severed toe is separated from the "base," and therefore will not regenerate. This "base" could be a single cell, or a cluster of cells, I would imagine. It cannot be the brain, as Claire came back from the "dead" after severe head trauma. It would make sense that the "base" would be located somewhere in the brain or heart, but beyond that, any speculation is baseless (no pun intended).
If that theory is true, then the power to regenerate is NOT in Claire's blood, or her blood would be respawning dozens of "Claires" every time her blood was spilled.
They are using Claire by injecting her with the virus. Claire's immune system will react to being attacked in one of three ways:
- She will manufacture the antibodies to mark and kill the virus. The company would then be able to extract the antibodies and develop a vaccine or an antidote.
- The virus will run rampant in her body, destroying cells. Her body will just regenerate the cells, but not kill the virus, and she will become an immune carrier.
- The virus will attack her "base" and disable her regenerative powers, which would kill her.
- The virus, by its nature, will disable the "active evolutionary" elements of her body, and then attack her like it would any other human.
As my wife pointed out, the Company knew what they were doing as always. They mutated it so Mohinder can no longer cure anyone. Thus they rendered the immediate cure ineffective, so they have to force him to help get Claire from HRG.
i love how this thread is turning scientific...lol. well...i guess i'll consume more info i never knew before. 
QUOTE (Elemeno @ Nov 6 2007, 10:54 AM)
We've got a theory around here that everytime someone gets infected the virus mutates to incorporate their powers.
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
So, we agree, that if Claire's blood is used, the virus would mutate into an unstoppable plague that could not be killed.
That would, you know, totally suck
What happened when then Haitian caught it? It took Peters memories?
Nathan is always dead when we see the future.
^
So true...
I was seriously when I heard Angela say that Nathan was one of the first ones to die from the outbreak. The only difference between now and that future would be that Peter is here for it this time around.
Hopefully, that would be enough.
Y'know what? Most of us want Nathan to play the Hero for a change... but we don't like it when it involves imminent death for him!
So true... I was seriously
when I heard Angela say that Nathan was one of the first ones to die from the outbreak. The only difference between now and that future would be that Peter is here for it this time around. Hopefully, that would be enough.
Y'know what? Most of us want Nathan to play the Hero for a change... but we don't like it when it involves imminent death for him!
Mentioning Nathan's death isn't really indicative or anything, I don't see any reason to freak out. Peter was dead too in that timeline, its just no one realized that the Peter they were talking to was from a year in the past. They mentioned Nathan was dead simply because it had context to Peter's conversation with his mother. Everyone else was more than likely dead too, there was just no reason to mention it.
I think, if anything, there seems to be a pattern of things seriously going to crap when Nathan is not around. In Five Years Gone it turns out he's Sylar in disguise and the world is crap, in the current incarnation of 2008 Nathan is dead and 93% of the population is dead. I dunno, maybe its just coincidence, but I wouldn't surprised if its their way of getting across that Nathan really is destined to bring the nation together, and if he's not, its bad news. So to me that suggests Nathan's continued presence as I doubt the writers will incorporate any of these gloomy futures coming to pass.
I think, if anything, there seems to be a pattern of things seriously going to crap when Nathan is not around. In Five Years Gone it turns out he's Sylar in disguise and the world is crap, in the current incarnation of 2008 Nathan is dead and 93% of the population is dead. I dunno, maybe its just coincidence, but I wouldn't surprised if its their way of getting across that Nathan really is destined to bring the nation together, and if he's not, its bad news. So to me that suggests Nathan's continued presence as I doubt the writers will incorporate any of these gloomy futures coming to pass.
QUOTE (DaisyDiamonds @ Nov 6 2007, 05:42 PM)
If you were to choose...who would you rather have die FIRST instead of Nathan?
Niki... please let it be Niki. She is SO annoying. I hope she won't get her abilities back. Then she'll become a useless character and they'll just make her disappear slowly. Or even better, they won't find a cure on time and Micah will move in with Molly.
Does anyone else REALLY like Nathan this season? He's been such a badass! Good lines, awesome attitude, tremendous hair.
Nathan's been my favorite character since the show began. I think he's the best character and actor the show has.
QUOTE (Marlique @ Nov 6 2007, 11:48 PM)
Does anyone else REALLY like Nathan this season? He's been such a badass! Good lines, awesome attitude, tremendous hair.
When I first started watching the show, Peter was my favorite (of course
) with Nathan as a close second. I loved his witty little remarks, the way he dealt with stuff. Eventually he fell down on the list. This season he has risen up past Peter (Who is way down there), and now past Maya I think to take the position of second again. If Sylar kills Maya and/or Alejandro, he's going into time out in poition two for a while, at which point Nathan will rise to the top and be my favorite character in Heroes for a time.I know, he should have been shooting for that honor last season, rather then wasting his time with becoming a congressmen. But those Petrelli boys and their dreams...whatya gunna do?
QUOTE (Citizen @ Nov 6 2007, 05:45 PM)
Nathan is always dead when we see the future.
And look how messed up the future with no Nathan in it. In order for them to get the right future, they must save Nathan. Save Nathan, save the world!
I think Nathan has a lot of potential as the future leader of the special people. These people need someone who can represent them well. Plus, he's got a lot of story to mine with Peter, Angela, and Claire. It'd be a waste to kill him.
And his actor is very talented too. We'll be left with X-MEN: 90210 if the only Heroes in this series are a bunch of young guys/girls.
Edited to add: LOL, I just realised that SacredKnight had said the same thing about Nathan-less future. It's bleak! Save Nathan, save the world!
Lol, yep, looks like we're on the same page. In Nathan We Trust. 
QUOTE (Ebla @ Nov 6 2007, 09:11 PM)
And look how messed up the future with no Nathan in it. In order for them to get the right future, they must save Nathan. Save Nathan, save the world!
I think Nathan has a lot of potential as the future leader of the special people. These people need someone who can represent them well. Plus, he's got a lot of story to mine with Peter, Angela, and Claire. It'd be a waste to kill him.
And his actor is very talented too. We'll be left with X-MEN: 90210 if the only Heroes in this series are a bunch of young guys/girls.
Edited to add: LOL, I just realised that SacredKnight had said the same thing about Nathan-less future. It's bleak! Save Nathan, save the world!
I think Nathan has a lot of potential as the future leader of the special people. These people need someone who can represent them well. Plus, he's got a lot of story to mine with Peter, Angela, and Claire. It'd be a waste to kill him.
And his actor is very talented too. We'll be left with X-MEN: 90210 if the only Heroes in this series are a bunch of young guys/girls.
Edited to add: LOL, I just realised that SacredKnight had said the same thing about Nathan-less future. It's bleak! Save Nathan, save the world!
Yeah, go sacred night and ebla.lol. rock on...
QUOTE (Ebla @ Nov 6 2007, 09:11 PM)
And look how messed up the future with no Nathan in it. In order for them to get the right future, they must save Nathan. Save Nathan, save the world!
I think Nathan has a lot of potential as the future leader of the special people. These people need someone who can represent them well. Plus, he's got a lot of story to mine with Peter, Angela, and Claire. It'd be a waste to kill him.
And his actor is very talented too. We'll be left with X-MEN: 90210 if the only Heroes in this series are a bunch of young guys/girls.
Edited to add: LOL, I just realised that SacredKnight had said the same thing about Nathan-less future. It's bleak! Save Nathan, save the world!
I think Nathan has a lot of potential as the future leader of the special people. These people need someone who can represent them well. Plus, he's got a lot of story to mine with Peter, Angela, and Claire. It'd be a waste to kill him.
And his actor is very talented too. We'll be left with X-MEN: 90210 if the only Heroes in this series are a bunch of young guys/girls.
Edited to add: LOL, I just realised that SacredKnight had said the same thing about Nathan-less future. It's bleak! Save Nathan, save the world!
"Save the politician, save the world."
Never thought you'd hear someone say that one, did ya? Future Hiro came to 2007 with that message, we'd laugh at him. Especially if people are thinking right that Nathan is Republican. Think about that.
Hiro no mirai: "Save the Republican, save the--"
General member of the public: "Say what? Save the Republican? Yeah, I'll do that the second you kiss my ***."
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Just my take on it. I'm middle of the road, and maybe a little more Republican than Democrat, but I gather that would be the general attitude.
We should start a petition: Save Nathan, Save the World!
When I heard that Nathan was dead in the future, I kinda rolled my eyes. Like what else is new. But Peter's dead too, so it's not like he's the only one (he's just one of the firsts, grrr). I like the theory about how important Nathan is to the future and how maybe he's the one that's gonna bring them all together.
Now all I need is for Nathan to use his powers more and see if they evolve...
When I heard that Nathan was dead in the future, I kinda rolled my eyes. Like what else is new. But Peter's dead too, so it's not like he's the only one (he's just one of the firsts, grrr). I like the theory about how important Nathan is to the future and how maybe he's the one that's gonna bring them all together.
Now all I need is for Nathan to use his powers more and see if they evolve...
My opinion:
- If the virus is the same one Maya spreads, than the only cure is Alejandro!
- Claire won't be able to stop the virus through her regeneration since her regeneration would only replace the cellars in her body that the virus affects and kills. If the virus however manage to disable her ability like it did to the others than she will be a goner anyway. Also if the virus should get stronger, her regeneration won't be able to to replace the dead cells fast enough at the end and even with her power still active she would die.
- Adam is some short of immune to the virus due to his immortality as long as the virus doesn't deactivate his ability.
If it does, he is dead. If it doesn't, he dies after a while and ressurects again.
- Claire and Adam have different powers! They are not the same and doesn't work the same way.
- If insiders infos should turn out to be true Niki will not die from the virus but in a fire by sacrificing herself for monica.
- Since it was shown that the virus deactivates/blocks the abilities (Molly, Haitian) I don't think on the speculation/theorie that it mutates through them like some of you said because in the Haitians case, when mohinder went to him to cure him, everyone around would be only mindless zombies instead of "normal people".
- Nikkis character always had a great potential but in my opinion, this potential was overlooked the whole time.
I will be sad when she goes.
As about Nathan, I think his character is ok but I wouldn't mind VERY much if he or Matt would die.
- If the virus is the same one Maya spreads, than the only cure is Alejandro!
- Claire won't be able to stop the virus through her regeneration since her regeneration would only replace the cellars in her body that the virus affects and kills. If the virus however manage to disable her ability like it did to the others than she will be a goner anyway. Also if the virus should get stronger, her regeneration won't be able to to replace the dead cells fast enough at the end and even with her power still active she would die.
- Adam is some short of immune to the virus due to his immortality as long as the virus doesn't deactivate his ability.
If it does, he is dead. If it doesn't, he dies after a while and ressurects again.
- Claire and Adam have different powers! They are not the same and doesn't work the same way.
- If insiders infos should turn out to be true Niki will not die from the virus but in a fire by sacrificing herself for monica.
- Since it was shown that the virus deactivates/blocks the abilities (Molly, Haitian) I don't think on the speculation/theorie that it mutates through them like some of you said because in the Haitians case, when mohinder went to him to cure him, everyone around would be only mindless zombies instead of "normal people".
- Nikkis character always had a great potential but in my opinion, this potential was overlooked the whole time.
I will be sad when she goes.
As about Nathan, I think his character is ok but I wouldn't mind VERY much if he or Matt would die.
That's why Peter has gone back in time, to try and save all of those people from the virus.
QUOTE (Elemeno @ Nov 6 2007, 01:54 PM)
We've got a theory around here that everytime someone gets infected the virus mutates to incorporate their powers.
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
It would explain why, after Molly got infected, more outbreaks started popping up all of a sudden (the virus could find them) and why after Niki injected herself, it became too strong for Mohinder's blood to cure.
That's a good theory, never thought of that one.
QUOTE (Forcefighter @ Nov 6 2007, 02:17 PM)
that would meen it would become air born if Nathan got infected. That is not good
Pretty neat .. because it would become airborne according to the latest graphic novel.
I wonder if Shanti (was she the first one to get the virus?) had a similar power to the Haitian? If we're going with the theory that the virus evolves via each Hero it infects, then hers or the Haitian's power could be the reason why the abilities of those infected are inhibited.
I don't think Claire or Adam is the cure. Bob was already trying to use Claire to cure Niki and ended up with an airborne Virus. I think that Maya uses her power on Niki which is what makes it airborne. Alejandro is the cure but doesn't know about it, and is later killed by Sylar. Hiro is dead if Angela had to convence Peter to go back and change things. So, they need to quarentine Niki immediately before Nathan and her meets up with Maya and company which starts the spread to the people in the area which is Nathan and Company.
I just don't want Heroes to be "The Nathan Show." I think catering to a specific character, especially in an ensemble cast, is guaranteed to make the show worse. Got a great story idea? Only if it doesn't hurt/embarass/kill Nathan... then it's okay.
It's bad enough in one-star shows like Smallville and 24... in Heroes, you might as well make a Spinoff for Mr. Perfect so that we can have a good well rounded show that's free to be innovative instead of stuck trying to reproduce the first season.
It's bad enough in one-star shows like Smallville and 24... in Heroes, you might as well make a Spinoff for Mr. Perfect so that we can have a good well rounded show that's free to be innovative instead of stuck trying to reproduce the first season.
QUOTE (ImpactWinter @ Nov 6 2007, 01:01 PM)
you didn't listen to the dialogue while peter was in the future?
that doesn't make any sense, watching the show is a spoiler?
that doesn't make any sense, watching the show is a spoiler?
Sorry, that was actually a tongue-in-cheek joke. It would be interesting to watch the show from here on out NOT knowing what happened to Peter, as though I was one of the characters who wasn't privy to his experience, and had to take on faith what he said.
QUOTE (DaisyDiamonds @ Nov 6 2007, 11:42 AM)
If you were to choose...who would you rather have die FIRST instead of Nathan?
WEST. Certainly, and if there is any humanity left in the world, it will be West. I seriously have a prolem with this guy. He is just creepy. That and if he gets much older.. Throw in the superiority complex he already has, with the feelings of betrayal he just pulled in, with a dash of being a social outcast... And you get someone who could eventually be a problem. Or maybe I'm just making all this up to fit my own needs to justify wanting him to be infected and killed off. Either way thats who I would want to die first. I don't think Nathan dying will ever be a good idea, I think it would set Peter off and he's just to powerfull to have uncontrolled emotions.
QUOTE (Exodio @ Nov 7 2007, 07:56 AM)
Sorry, that was actually a tongue-in-cheek joke. It would be interesting to watch the show from here on out NOT knowing what happened to Peter, as though I was one of the characters who wasn't privy to his experience, and had to take on faith what he said.
Ah, I thought about that, as it seemed the only angle that made any sense.
I think the way Heroeos writers use timetravel and parallel narratives in different timelines is really creative.
its not always immediately clear, but the future/past stories are usually told in parallel to something thats relevant in the present; and they add both information and context without clueing in the actual present-tense participants. (I.E. Hiro's little ancient japan sabbatical introduced and fleshed out a new character whose actions in the present we've been dealing with in absentia)
But also, they provide a rather tidy means of separating the two most powerful characters (Pete, Hiro) from events that they would...unbalance if present for... while still providing forward motion in their stories.
I think we all know that going to the future doesn't make the future concrete...
Otherwise New York would already be blown up and .07% would be dead.
Future will change, Shanti virus will have an antidote. Thats my opinion.
Otherwise New York would already be blown up and .07% would be dead.
Future will change, Shanti virus will have an antidote. Thats my opinion.
QUOTE (Dustin @ Nov 7 2007, 04:21 PM)
I think we all know that going to the future doesn't make the future concrete...
Otherwise New York would already be blown up and .07% would be dead.
Future will change, Shanti virus will have an antidote. Thats my opinion.
Otherwise New York would already be blown up and .07% would be dead.
Future will change, Shanti virus will have an antidote. Thats my opinion.
Of course it will but the fun part is how Peter figures to perform this miricle. He forgot everybody so he doesn't even know who to go to except Angela who is in Jail. Puts him in a pickle for sure.
Anyone remember the X-men cartoon on Fox? Anyone remember the show were Apocalypse had Mr. Sinister make a virus that will kill all of the mutants in the world causing a horrible future? Anyone remember how they found the cure?
Wolverine was infected, which it turn made his super powered anti-bodies beat the virus, which then makes a cure from his blood. Yes, the healing power itself is NOT a cure but after the healing ability gets a chance to fight the virus only then does it have the ability to cure it by using the blood post infection.
So it will all come down to when either Claire or Adam get infected if their healing power can stand up to the fight with the virus.
Wolverine was infected, which it turn made his super powered anti-bodies beat the virus, which then makes a cure from his blood. Yes, the healing power itself is NOT a cure but after the healing ability gets a chance to fight the virus only then does it have the ability to cure it by using the blood post infection.
So it will all come down to when either Claire or Adam get infected if their healing power can stand up to the fight with the virus.
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