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RubberDucky
so what does Adam have that makes Linderman and Maury want to follow him?
Medemia
400 years of planning his revenge on Hiro as well as 400 years of experience manipulating people to get what he wants by giving them what they want to hear. My guess.
RubberDucky
not sure if that is really it - I mean what does Adam have that makes Linderman want to follow him; or what would Adam have that would convince Maury to be so darn evil.

can he give his ability of immortality to others?
Medemia
I think additionally Adam was there at the beginning when they were discovering that they had powers and by this point, he was an old pro. He was able to walk them through the early stages and earn their trust and then their loyalty. If he was able to gain enough loyalty to make Linderman think that blowing up NY was healing and that Maury was doing the right thing in leaving his family, then there was a tremendous amount of trust and loyalty there which would be hard to break.
NinjaCat542
I'm guessing his blood can be used to heal others the way he heals himself. Claire's too. That, is why the company wants them both so bad. They could easily kill Adam if they wanted, despite his "immortality." Ways to off him:

1. Throw him in an active volcano.
2. Launch him into space
3. Frozen in Antarctica
4. Drop him in the Laurentian Abyssal (Deepest place on earth)
5. You get the idea.

They kept him for a reason, and I bet it's his blood. Also why HRG knows they would want claire so badly, for the same reason.
Visitor27
QUOTE (RubberDucky @ Nov 6 2007, 11:53 AM) *
not sure if that is really it - I mean what does Adam have that makes Linderman want to follow him; or what would Adam have that would convince Maury to be so darn evil.

can he give his ability of immortality to others?



I bet he was Linderman's mentor and they had met before Linderman came calling to The Petrelli home in the graphic novel, to start a partnership. I think Adam made Linderman who he became.


Maury, I guess, do this and I'll spare you, but can not being able die or be hurt a diffence against the boogy man. I'm gonna guess the whole 400 years of manipulation, not to mention Adam seems like a guru like figure to much of the 12, well not Bob, perhaps Adam prayed on Maury's own feelings of revenge. It looks like Maury wasn't still part of the group that was being killed anyway.

It does look like Bob was running the company wit bob, but was against him in ideas. Perhaps Linderman knew he couldn't over throw the company, so he deceided to carry on Adam's good work. And Angela feel in with that. I do wonder if she was drawn into the thing all together or wasn't there to help save her son's also. With Claire, Peter and Nathan it seems to me that Angela had her own Angeda she was keeping from Linderman and perhaps visa versa.

Now.. here's the kicker, does Bob know Claire is a Petrelli? It would be very interested if he didn't and very interesting if he did.
WickedM
Lindeman was a follwer of Adam, Bob stated that. We also know that Linderman convinced Pa Petrelli into the group to after Vietnam, so I'm guessing that it's Adam, Linderman, Petrelli on one side until Pa has second thoughts (becomes "weak" according to Linderman).

I have to wonder though, why would Adam work with the father (Kaito) of the man (Hiro) who would later go back in time and mess up his (Adams) future?
yungeric
Adam has grown to like who he is and he knows Hiro needs to mess with his past so he becomes who he is today. By working with him he waits until Hiro goes back in time as part of the revenge. It' more fun destroying everything somebody loves then to just kill them, when taking revenge.
WickedM
good point
yungeric
Adam will attempt to kill Ando. This is speculation but I am calling it right now.
vegaspetrelli
QUOTE (yungeric @ Nov 6 2007, 12:40 PM) *
Adam will attempt to kill Ando. This is speculation but I am calling it right now.

I wouldn't doubt that , Kensei/Adam is hellbent on revenge so anyone close to Hiro is in danger.
Ando is a cool guy , very loyal and a true friend would be a shame to see him go.
katlas77
QUOTE (vegaspetrelli @ Nov 6 2007, 04:50 PM) *
I wouldn't doubt that , Kensei/Adam is hellbent on revenge so anyone close to Hiro is in danger.
Ando is a cool guy , very loyal and a true friend would be a shame to see him go.


Yes but is the picture of Kensei & Hiro fighting what happened or will Hiro go back and try to right the wrong he did by not leaving and challange Kensei again?
Rabbit
He was the first, and possibly the strongest. Plus, his immortality meant years of gaining knowledge and power.

He isn't doing what he's doing just for revenge.
ourtime99
How old do you think Hiro and his sister are? If they locked up Adam around 30 years ago, maybe it was because Adam made his intentions for revenge clear around the time Kaito started having kids. He did say that he had been waiting a long time for a Nakamura to ascend.
kitty
QUOTE (RubberDucky @ Nov 6 2007, 09:40 AM) *
so what does Adam have that makes Linderman and Maury want to follow him?



the promise of power. He was sucked into Adam's delusions. Adam told him "we can rid the world of all these evil people," And so they tried, becoming evil in the process..
shaka37
We don't even know at this point if Claire was born, hatched, or ... well ... created. If Kensei's name is Adam and he's part of the company, and woman was created from Adam (you know, like in the Bible), then mightn't that make Claire kind of like Eve in the allegorical sense? LOL! I think Adam started it all in some weird way and that he was either the first or at least he was a creator of some sort. I mean, he had 400 years to figure it out.
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