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Manmandiran
Alas Irish lass, lost, alas lost.

Caitlin! certainly you were not the cutest, for Simone looked better than you.
And you were not the kindest either, for you didn't mourn your brother more than three seconds or so.
And of course you were not the smartest, for you didn't have a clue about abilities and you had nothing special yourself.

But, still, every one liked you for being yourself and you sure died in the most awful way, somewhere between two timelines, in the midst of two dimensions, sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

Rest In Peace Katie, let's hope that Peter will continue to cherish your name, even though your existence seems to have completely vanished in the air.
Rabbit
I think he will try to save her, but I don't know if he'll be able to.

And she isn't dead.
lauryn
Ok, I didn't particularly like her story with Peter, but I liked her... a lot.

Basically, when I saw Peter leave without her.. i nearly started crying.. it was so sad.. it's a worst case scenario too. I remember watching Five Years Gone the first time it was on, and all i could think about was that Hiro was going to accidentally leave Ando in the future.. I nearly started crying THEN and that didn't even happen. I had always feared something like that. The fact that right before it she came running to him telling him how scared she was didn't help.

I really don't think she can be saved. I don't think Peter can really go back to that moment.. and if all goes right, and he stops the virus from spreading... what happens to her? is she still stuck in the alternate future?
maxii
Is it bad to be happy about this?



I think I might need therapy cause I started laughing when Caitlan got left behind
Manmandiran
QUOTE (Rabbit @ Nov 7 2007, 12:56 AM) *
And she isn't dead.


Well, technically she is: she's not in the present, and unless she develops Hiro-like abilities, she's stuck there, and for the moment Future=Nothingness.

Worse than that: if Peter & Friends manage to change the future and make the virus NOT happen, well, I don't see how we could find our sweet Caitlin again.

The only way she could be back: Peter 1/goes to the future 2/comes back with Katie 3/change the future so the virus doesn't happen. To me, it sounds a bit complicated, specially now that we know very few episodes are left before the end of this arc+writers' strike.

QUOTE (maxii @ Nov 7 2007, 01:14 AM) *
I think I might need therapy cause I started laughing when Caitlan got left behind



HA HA maxii!... that's pure EVIL... you should get some Psylar-analysis! laugh.gif
boonskank
why do you feel there needs to be a new thread for this?
aulduron
She's in the future. If the future changes, her reality will probably change, but she should still be in NY on March XX 2008.
corrine
no. im glad. i hate caitlin. im glad shes gone, and it should stay that way
JeffED
QUOTE (maxii @ Nov 6 2007, 07:14 PM) *
I think I might need therapy cause I started laughing when Caitlan got left behind


ditto here, even though afterwards i felt sorry for her
Seclusion
I don't really think she's gone for good. Only time will tell.
VentiDeMilo
Well, they better show Peter trying to go back to save her. I will be VERY DISAPPOINTED about the show if it doesn't happen. That's not like Peter. Peter is a caring person and has a big heart (per Mr. Deveaux), it will not make sense if he doesn't go back to save her.
felix777
Despite all her shortcomings, I think Caitlin deserves to be saved. She's been kind and supportive of Peter in his time of need. She deserves better.
Marlique
I didn't like Caitlin. She's not much really. She didn't even have a character. I'm glad she's out.
MentallyTwisted
QUOTE (maxii @ Nov 7 2007, 11:14 AM) *
I think I might need therapy cause I started laughing when Caitlan got left behind



I started laughing, too. Not so much at Caitlan because I kind of like her character, but more at the fact that stupid Peter left her behind. I was all like "dude, you just left your girlfriend in the future, you are SOO dumped."
Leek
*runs in*

I LIKED CAITLIN!


*runs out before anyone can start throwing things*
OlyMendez
me too, I doubt she's done for. She will live again!
-runs out after leek to avoid stuff being thrown at her-
kwister
bwah! rip Caitlin! she doesnt do much for the show anyway, so she's better off that way left in the future and i hope peter doesnt go back for her!
Raekon
No one even noticed the recycled part of the story? O_o

- Hiro gets back to the past to save Charlie, he tries to port back to the future or go somewhere else with her and his power kicks in "accidentaly" leavin her behind.

- Peter goes to the future with Caitlin, his power kicks in "accidentaly" leavin her behind. dry.gif

As about the statements above, I like Caitlin and I didn't liked the recycled part of the story only so they can put more drama (as if there wasn't enough..) or "kill" another love interest.

As about her being saved, actually peter only needs to go back to the present or past a few days to revert what happened instead of going back to the future to save her.

This way he would still have the knowledge about the future, but he would never had gone there with her so she couldn't be left behind.

Another thing I found dumb was that even he was with his mother and everyone knew that he was there with Caitlin since they were found together, they got seperated and nobody tried to put them together again. -.-

Instead they kept him and send her away.. Nonsense!
Manmandiran
QUOTE (Raekon @ Nov 7 2007, 10:43 AM) *
As about her being saved, actually peter only needs to go back to the present or past a few days to revert what happened instead of going back to the future to save her.

This way he would still have the knowledge about the future, but he would never had gone there with her so she couldn't be left behind.


Er, don't you think there would be a problem at that point, I mean: if Peter2 goes back to Peter1 & Caitlin to stop them from going to the future, we would have 2 Peters... I know we had 2 Hiros in 5 Years Gone, but I doubt that this is going to happen again.

QUOTE (Raekon @ Nov 7 2007, 10:43 AM) *
Another thing I found dumb was that even he was with his mother and everyone knew that he was there with Caitlin since they were found together, they got seperated and nobody tried to put them together again. -.-

Instead they kept him and send her away.. Nonsense!


Well, if you think that only 7% of world's population is left, I guess it's important for each country to have ALL itheir citizens. Ireland's population is currently 6 millions, with the virus they're like 420,000... that's not a lot, I guess every citizen counts.
Raekon
QUOTE (Manmandiran @ Nov 7 2007, 11:24 AM) *
Er, don't you think there would be a problem at that point, I mean: if Peter2 goes back to Peter1 & Caitlin to stop them from going to the future, we would have 2 Peters... I know we had 2 Hiros in 5 Years Gone, but I doubt that this is going to happen again.


So what? Hiro also came from the future and warned better to save the cheerleader didn't he?
This saved Claires life after all.

While shouldn't peter go to the past to tell himself not to take Caitlin with him (don't hug or whatever to prevent it) or even that if that happens that he should do anything in his might (no matter if with force or not) to not get seperated?

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Well, if you think that only 7% of world's population is left, I guess it's important for each country to have ALL itheir citizens. Ireland's population is currently 6 millions, with the virus they're like 420,000... that's not a lot, I guess every citizen counts.


Oh that would mean than that since I'm from Germany and you obviously from the USA (If that's the case smile.gif ), if we were a pair (married or not), they would just say, "who cares about relationships?" you go back to germany, he/she stays. Good deal for the worlds population... dry.gif

So I still think it's nonsense!
samu
QUOTE (Raekon @ Nov 7 2007, 02:43 AM) *
would mean than that since I'm from Germany and you obviously from the USA (If that's the case smile.gif ), if we were a pair (married or not), they would just say, "who cares about relationships?" you go back to germany, he/she stays. Good deal for the worlds population... dry.gif

So I still think it's nonsense!


but you have to remember they teleported to New York so it basicaly makes her an illegal alien smile.gif
Revengeance
I never really warmed to Caitlin, but I do feel sorry for her since Peter pretty much completely screwed her life up. Elle fried Ricky when looking for Peter; you'd assume Caitlin would've questioned her relationship with him since he indirectly motivated the murder. Why hang around the guy if you could end up like that? Never mind, let's go to Montreal! All she wanted was revenge on Elle, but is instead abandoned by Peter in the future and destined to be erased from the face of the universe. And if she still doesn't feel like punching in Peters face, she fails at relationships and deserves to die. smile.gif
Exodio
I don't buy the whole deportation thing. I think that was a forced way of separating them. If humanity is struggling to survive, there is no way resources are going to be used shipping people overseas. Besides, I would think the mass transit networks wouldn't be working - who would be flying the plane? Who is refining the oil into jet fuel? Who is servicing the jets? Or the boats? If there were uninfected people, I doubt anyone would care to send them away, they would need to preserve the people as a resource and hang on to them.
Ridiculous.
Although I think it's a really neat storyline, leaving her in the future, I disagree with the manner in which they portrayed their separation.
Ronald
The reason that Peter went to the past is because his emotions were running amuc just like Hiro's before he figured how to control the power. Now he cannot go back into any time because his emotions are still not in the right frame of mind to activate the power. If he would just stop using his emotions and concentrate on the situation, then he would be able to go to Kaitlyn and bring her back. By the way, Kaitlyn would still go into the different future and not remember the virus, just that Peter left her there.
ImSoGreat
QUOTE (boonskank @ Nov 6 2007, 07:23 PM) *
why do you feel there needs to be a new thread for this?


Maybe because it took place in the 'Out of Time' episode of Heroes. You see when a message board is made about a show on TV, then usually as long as you post about the tv show, all topics are welcomed.
silvermesgr
QUOTE (JeffED @ Nov 6 2007, 06:09 PM) *
ditto here, even though afterwards i felt sorry for her



personally i just liked hearing the irish brogue. love it.
dcg
I liked Catelin in general and yes, I thought it was terrible she was left in the future.

I hope Peter is able to meet up with her again somehow.
lauryn
Judging by the responses... Was I the only one who was emotional/sad with Catlin being left in the future.. it seems everyone thought it was funny...
Ronald
QUOTE (lauryn @ Nov 7 2007, 04:36 PM) *
Judging by the responses... Was I the only one who was emotional/sad with Catlin being left in the future.. it seems everyone thought it was funny...

I was saddened that she was left in the future and was hoping that Peter finds a way to bring her back. Maybe after talking to Adam.
thrillho
QUOTE (Marlique @ Nov 7 2007, 04:17 AM) *
I didn't like Caitlin. She's not much really. She didn't even have a character. I'm glad she's out.

this

it was a bit rubbish to shove her in and then have peter fall madly in love with her just like that. but i guess that's what happened with simone. he's a pretty rash guy i guess. he needs to calm down

oh wait he's a fictional character d'oh
Dr. Chaos
May her poor soul rest in peace until her super baby comes back and beats the crap out of Peter.
TessaBlues
I feel bad that she was left behind. I think they should at least allude to Peter trying to go back for her, they dont have to actually show it.
Explosivo
Here's the deal: time travel kills people.

The entire deal in Season 1 was more or less brought about by Hiro meddling in time. The CURRENT season was brought about by Hiro meddling in time. And finally, Peter got Caitlin's brother killed, and then transported her to a place and time where 93% of the population died from a virus, a virus that she probably has now.

Again, time travel kills people on this show.
nickpowers101
I really hope Peter is able to reunite with Caitlin - she's a cool character - down to Earth, got guts and isn't mind blowingly annoying like that weirdo West.
snowind
QUOTE (Manmandiran @ Nov 7 2007, 04:24 AM) *
Er, don't you think there would be a problem at that point, I mean: if Peter2 goes back to Peter1 & Caitlin to stop them from going to the future, we would have 2 Peters... I know we had 2 Hiros in 5 Years Gone, but I doubt that this is going to happen again.



Well, if you think that only 7% of world's population is left, I guess it's important for each country to have ALL itheir citizens. Ireland's population is currently 6 millions, with the virus they're like 420,000... that's not a lot, I guess every citizen counts.


I'm from Mexico... with 7% we would still have 7 million people... Imagine China.. Just 7% would still be a lot of chinese... I love them tongue.gif
kalysto
It's actually pretty funny imo. She was a pretty boring character (even West who has been just as badly received has brought out feelings in viewers, sure everyone hates him, but it's something at least!), apparently so boring that Peter forgot all about her. It's harsh, and who knows if it will be revisited again, but it's not like Peter spent a lot of time mourning Simone either.
companyman75
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i just read on a website that she is stuck in the future, inferring that she is still alive?

sorry if i'm going overboard, i don't know the spoiler regulations around here.
FlyingGirl
I hope Peter can save her somehow.

She's nice, and she seemed to really make Peter happy.
clooimx
So there might be two of here roaming around in the future... ooohhoo peter might save the wrong one...

but if it was the future, would she be there in the first place, becuase peter took her to the future.. I'm getting myself confused...

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kojirodensetsu
Yeah I found it a bit odd that they would go around deporting people in a world wide crisis like a virus that is killing everyone.

Caitlin was alright. How I see it though her main purpose for the show was just to draw out this whole "hehe Peter lost his memory isn't that cute?" bit. And now that just continuing to draw that out for no purpose would be boring they axe her off and send Peter to his next plot. Although I will be disappointed if they do get rid of Caitlin this way and she makes no more appearances in the show. I just don't think Heroes shouldn't get into the habit of making characters and axing them off for like no reason. At least with the characters that Sylar killed (like that waitress chick that Hiro liked) that had to do with story and whatnot. Leaving Caitlin in a post-apocalyptic future? What does that do for the story? Nothing.
CaptPostMod
QUOTE (aulduron @ Nov 6 2007, 08:47 PM) *
She's in the future. If the future changes, her reality will probably change, but she should still be in NY on March XX 2008.


In Beeman's blog he says he uses Back to the Future 2 as his Bible for time travel. In Back to the Future 2 Doc says it's okay to leave Jennifer (Marty's girlfriend) in the alternate 1984 because when time is altered it will simply alter around her.

That means that the statement quoted above is absolutely correct.
Ronald
QUOTE (CaptPostMod @ Nov 8 2007, 11:56 AM) *
In Beeman's blog he says he uses Back to the Future 2 as his Bible for time travel. In Back to the Future 2 Doc says it's okay to leave Jennifer (Marty's girlfriend) in the alternate 1984 because when time is altered it will simply alter around her.

That means that the statement quoted above is absolutely correct.

The question is, will she appear in the changed timeline where Peter left her. Peter only saw what happened in the one timeline but will be coming back to another one where she appears and the virus never happened.
Raine
I didn't like her. I don't know why, just something about her. I did laugh too. Peter has really bad luck with his girlfriends.
CaptPostMod
QUOTE (Ronald @ Nov 8 2007, 12:44 PM) *
The question is, will she appear in the changed timeline where Peter left her. Peter only saw what happened in the one timeline but will be coming back to another one where she appears and the virus never happened.


Again, refer back to Back to the Future 2 per Beeman. Jennifer is left in the hellish 1985 and is still there (with all her memories of the adventure intact) in the perfected 1985 when Doc and Marty get back from the Old West.
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