Faunus
Nov 6 2007, 06:53 PM
In the short version, my theory is that Adam will turn out good in the end. All the pieces are there. Before going back to the present Hiro said that Kensei or "Adam" is good at heart, but kind of lost his way after what happened with Hiro and the swordsmith's daughter.
Bob also said that the only cure to this new strand of the virus is Claire's regenerative abilities. Guess who also has those regenerative abilities? Mr. Adam Monroe. My guess (and yes, this is just a random guess/theory that I'm not commiting myself too) is that something happens where they can't use Claire to get the cure and Adam is there last and final option. Hiro then does some persuasive talking and Adam proves that he really is a hero at heart.
Tell me what you think. . .
Leek
Nov 6 2007, 06:55 PM
I think he has spent 400 years being bad. I think it's gunna take a hell of a lot more then a Haitian mind swipe to forget that.
PandorasCurse
Nov 6 2007, 06:59 PM
I think Sylar is going to kill him and take his power.
Why else would the evil company keep him alive, if not to defeat their greatest enemy?
Faunus
Nov 6 2007, 06:59 PM
He also hasn't seen Hiro in 400 years. Yes, he was the one who turned him bad but he's also the one that turned him from his evil ways in the first place.
laughingman
Nov 6 2007, 07:12 PM

i'm sorry, but "Adam" will not turn out good in the long run.
He never did live up to being a hero, and he simply never will.
Adam is in the mindset of being divine, a resolve to punish who he deems unfit.
A God complex that basicly is irreversible.
In the most likely events, adam will use peters emotions to control him and make him believe hes trying to stop the virus. When he's actually using peter to take it for his own agenda...

i'm pretty sure adam is a bad guy.
corrine
Nov 6 2007, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (PandorasCurse @ Nov 6 2007, 06:59 PM)

I think Sylar is going to kill him and take his power.
Why else would the evil company keep him alive, if not to defeat their greatest enemy?
... so making sylar indestructable on top of all the other qualities he has is the better alternative? but i like that theory anyway because i wanna see sylar do some killing action
spoochmcpoo
Nov 6 2007, 07:27 PM
im not so sure they want claire to fix this virus... i think they want her so they can find a way to take out "adam"
heck.. if they knew she could do what she can from day one that may have been their plan all along...
Sehlura
Nov 6 2007, 08:10 PM
I just cannot WAIT until Adam and Hiro meet up again.
FutureDL
Nov 6 2007, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (Faunus @ Nov 6 2007, 09:53 PM)

In the short version, my theory is that Adam will turn out good in the end. All the pieces are there. Before going back to the present Hiro said that Kensei or "Adam" is good at heart, but kind of lost his way after what happened with Hiro and the swordsmith's daughter.
Bob also said that the only cure to this new strand of the virus is Claire's regenerative abilities. Guess who also has those regenerative abilities? Mr. Adam Monroe. My guess (and yes, this is just a random guess/theory that I'm not commiting myself too) is that something happens where they can't use Claire to get the cure and Adam is there last and final option. Hiro then does some persuasive talking and Adam proves that he really is a hero at heart.
Tell me what you think. . .
I believe u are right and i also believe adam/kensei is a empath and got the cellar regen in feudal japan explaining why he didnt know he had that power usually u know early on he was kinda old for it to just show up like that i also think he recieved time/space travel from hiro and used it to come to the future
FistSoup
Nov 7 2007, 01:54 AM
QUOTE (spoochmcpoo @ Nov 6 2007, 10:27 PM)

im not so sure they want claire to fix this virus... i think they want her so they can find a way to take out "adam"
That's not a bad theory. Bob gains Mohinder's trust, gets him to find Claire and convince her the Company is on the up and up, trying to cure this "totally unexpected" mutation of the virus, while all the time they were planning on seeing if this new mutation kills Claire, or at least saps her of her powers in an attempt to find a way to take down Adam.
If it can kill Claire, it will probably kill Adam.
Raekon
Nov 7 2007, 02:15 AM
Adam has immortality, not Regeneration like Claire.
He didn't knew about his power before because he never died before and immortality kicks in only after you die.
If he would had regeneration, he would had noticed earlier through small injuries he might had previously that healed immediately. Thought that obviously wasn't the case.
I don't think he will turn to the good side. He tented to be a bad guy the whole way. The only one time in his life he started being a "hero" and a good guy that "felt good" to him (he thanked hiro for that), was back in the past before hiro messed up.
SensibleIronies
Nov 7 2007, 05:23 AM
QUOTE (FutureDL @ Nov 6 2007, 11:25 PM)

I believe u are right and i also believe adam/kensei is a empath and got the cellar regen in feudal japan explaining why he didnt know he had that power usually u know early on he was kinda old for it to just show up like that i also think he recieved time/space travel from hiro and used it to come to the future
What makes you say he would be too old to have just started seeing the effects of his power? I mean When you think about it he cant be much older than what thirty tops right? If he didnt already have the power for a long time explaining why he looked so young, but then it wouldnt have been a suprise, nullifying your whole argument for the empath theory. But back to the age thing, How old would you say nathan is the first time he flies, or Isaac the first time he paints the future, or hiro when he discovers his powers, all obviously at least mid twentys. I'm not trying to argue the empath theory, just curious what would make you think he was to old.
As for the Adam being on the good side theory? I sure hope not. It would just seem like a HUGE build up and then him waiting 400 years just waiting to lay waste to everything important to Hiro for him to just up and decide one day "actually you know what? I shouldn't be so mad at the ol' carp, he's a good guy, I think I'll just go ahead and forgive the guy"
Oh and P.S. I'm new to these boards (don't really know the point in saying that... just felt like it I guess.) so hi
Yarr
Nov 7 2007, 06:13 AM
There's a very good chance that Adam could be a good guy in the end. After all, at some point (now lost in time) Adam was Kensei and he was a noble and good person.
We have no idea what Adam has done in the last 400 years. For all we know he grew wise and learned a valuble lesson from Hiro. It would be pretty hard to hold a grudge for 400 years, let alone remember what the grudge was about.
Lets not forget that Adam did start the Company and they did save lives (Remember the snow fall in Florida?) with the older generation. Adam had every chance to kill Hiro before Hiro even knew who Adam was, but Adam didn't. Of course he could just be plotting revenge, but like I said, its not hard to think that after 400 years Adam got over his grudge (Im sure Adam has had other loves in the 400 years) and is now a better person.
People only think Adam is bad because Bob said so. People only believe Bob because they buy into the story he is using to Manipulate Mo.
silvermesgr
Nov 7 2007, 08:06 AM
QUOTE (Raekon @ Nov 7 2007, 02:15 AM)

Adam has immortality, not Regeneration like Claire.
He didn't knew about his power before because he never died before and immortality kicks in only after you die.
If he would had regeneration, he would had noticed earlier through small injuries he might had previously that healed immediately. Thought that obviously wasn't the case.
I don't think he will turn to the good side. He tented to be a bad guy the whole way. The only one time in his life he started being a "hero" and a good guy that "felt good" to him (he thanked hiro for that), was back in the past before hiro messed up.
IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! adam/kensai is actually the kergen.
QUOTE (Raekon @ Nov 7 2007, 04:15 AM)

Adam has immortality, not Regeneration like Claire.
He didn't knew about his power before because he never died before and immortality kicks in only after you die.
If he would had regeneration, he would had noticed earlier through small injuries he might had previously that healed immediately. Thought that obviously wasn't the case.
I don't think he will turn to the good side. He tented to be a bad guy the whole way. The only one time in his life he started being a "hero" and a good guy that "felt good" to him (he thanked hiro for that), was back in the past before hiro messed up.
If this is true, then why did Adam's hand heal after Peter zapped it? Looked a lot like regeneration to me. There was no death involved.
It's more likely that his power did not appear until Hiro + the eclipse "activated" it.
rodneyjdavis
Nov 7 2007, 09:32 AM
QUOTE (Raekon @ Nov 7 2007, 04:15 AM)

Adam has immortality, not Regeneration like Claire.
He didn't knew about his power before because he never died before and immortality kicks in only after you die.
If he would had regeneration, he would had noticed earlier through small injuries he might had previously that healed immediately. Thought that obviously wasn't the case.
I don't think he will turn to the good side. He tented to be a bad guy the whole way. The only one time in his life he started being a "hero" and a good guy that "felt good" to him (he thanked hiro for that), was back in the past before hiro messed up.
I'm not saying you are absolutely wrong, but we dont know any of this to be factual.
An argument can be made that Adam and Claire share the same type of power. Ex: Adam gets shot with an arrow, and the wound heals. Claire gets shot with a bullet and the wound heals. These events actually happened. We have yet to see that "Adam" is immortal. Obviously, he is in the present and was also in the past, but to say that he is 100% immortal is a stretch at this point.
QUOTE (Sehlura @ Nov 6 2007, 10:10 PM)

I just cannot WAIT until Adam and Hiro meet up again.

If Adam is true to his words of making Hiro suffer, then it will be a sad day. The first thing Adam will do is kill Ando.
HeroMama
Nov 7 2007, 09:41 AM
I can't help but think that Adam is seriously bad. He says he never claimed to be more than a "hackjob?" Did I hear that right? Anyway, I think he spent the past 400 years nursing a patient grudge against Hiro. Can you imagine waiting that long to get someone back? If that proves to be the case, then watch out. If he can't get rid of a grudge after 400 years, then he's seriously messed up.
Explosivo
Nov 7 2007, 05:35 PM
QUOTE (Faunus @ Nov 6 2007, 09:53 PM)

In the short version, my theory is that Adam will turn out good in the end. All the pieces are there. Before going back to the present Hiro said that Kensei or "Adam" is good at heart, but kind of lost his way after what happened with Hiro and the swordsmith's daughter.
Bob also said that the only cure to this new strand of the virus is Claire's regenerative abilities. Guess who also has those regenerative abilities? Mr. Adam Monroe. My guess (and yes, this is just a random guess/theory that I'm not commiting myself too) is that something happens where they can't use Claire to get the cure and Adam is there last and final option. Hiro then does some persuasive talking and Adam proves that he really is a hero at heart.
Tell me what you think. . .
I think the opposite. They had Adam Monroe, but he escaped two weeks ago. Then they thought they had Peter in Cork, but he disappeared. The only other person they know with regenerative abilities is Claire. So they're after her.
TrentSteele
Nov 7 2007, 05:58 PM
That's a good theory. It seems to me that the writers have been going out of their way to make Bob (and the Company, by extension) seem sympathetic, while portraying their enemies (HRG, Adam) in a more negative light, to get the audience thinking that the Company is the good guy in this conflict. I think this may be a ploy meant to shock everyone with a big reveal that things aren't as they seem, like, for example, that Kensei/Adam is actually trying to prevent the spread of the virus while the Company is (as you say) looking to experiment with it on Claire in order to find a way to kill him, which may end up leading to its eventual spread to the general population and the events Peter sees in his trip to the future.
HRG is obviously an extremely morally shady character, but one thing we can be certain of is that he genuinely loves and wants to protect Claire and is utterly convinced that the Company getting its hands on her would be about the worst thing that could possibly happen. We must not forget that they were completely ruthless and were in favor of letting the bomb blow up New York in season one. As I say, I think their temporarily positive portrayal in this season is meant to throw us off course and conceal their true intentions.
Lil'Fox
Nov 7 2007, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (silvermesgr @ Nov 7 2007, 11:06 AM)

IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! adam/kensai is actually the kergen.
LOL! TOO FUNNY!
nickpowers101
Nov 7 2007, 07:21 PM
I think Adam's just plain evil... I get this feeling that he was playing Hiro when he met him - he knew about his ability to heal and perhaps even older than he makes himself out to be... Now he's more twisted than ever. Maybe he's good - I doubt it though.
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