Well... some just think that Adam has lived for almost 500 years because of his regeneration power, but I think that Adam is truly an empath, and that would explain how he's still alive in "present" day (although regeneration could also slow his aging.)

We know he can regenerate, but Bob also stated that he could make "snow" or produce a "tsunami", so that clearly describes a second power totally different from healing.

Then, we could also add that Adam could have absorbed Hiro's power, and that could have explained how he survived the explosion
(I think it's more plausible that he involuntary teleported rather than surviving because of his healing power)

Anyway, I mainly think he is an empath because of what Bob said, that clearly denotes at least a second power.

He is immortal. End of story.

I agree... and Bob said today that Adam had a lot of disciples (including Linderman) so it would stand to reason that someone with the power to make weather could have possible been under Adam's control, much like Maury.

Yes, he has the same power as Claire. If he was an Empath, he would've shown signs of Hiro's power.

Plus, I believe that Bob said Adam's Disciples made the freaky weather stuff.

Sorry to stomp all over your theory man...

Are you saying he is an empath who just happened to bump into a person who could regenerate, and then Hiro came along?

uhm, let's see... well... YES? much like what happened to Peter

Joe Ravenclaw, when did you expect him to give signs of being an empath? If I were right, what Bob said and maybe him still being alive could be signs of his true power. Yet this will be revealed in the upcoming episoeds... maybe it's as simple as just healing = immortal.

But I sense there is something else... besides they said they would repeat powers in this season, then maybe the duplicate one here is empathy, and not just healing as they've made us beleive so far. And it would make more sense regarding the peter/adam relationship.

Just a thought, anyway. There's no end of story because you say so

Dont be so quick to kills someones idea. I think it plausable and could explain some things:
Adam is probably the first SG and usely the first of a new species is the most powerful (like vampires)
1.How he stopped Peters Lightning bolt. (I think it was more than just enhanced regereration over 400 years)
2.How did he and Hiro and the princess end up in the same place when Hiro teleported out of the battle.
3.Maybe picked up some flying power and flew Hiro's dad off the building.
4.Possibly explain why he is here in present time any
5.The most obvious one is that he is an Emo like Peter. It has been 500 years Kensai, get over the girl already. (He needs therapy)

I don't think he's an empath. Angela Petrelli told Peter he's the most powerful one of us all. Which probably means he's the only empath so far ... otherwise Adam would have been the most powerful with 400 years of gathering up powers compared to Peter's one year so far.

Angela simply meant that HIS power was the most powerful, but she didn't mean he was the ONLY empath ever to have existed.
In season 1, Claude even mentioned to Peter that he had seen others like him, so I don't think at all that Peter is the first empath.

And yes, Adam could have gathered a lot of powers. But who says he has lived for 500 years? What I mean is that if he had Hiro's power, he could have perfectly skipped some hundred years ahead of his time... and end somewhere else like in the 1900s.

Ok I'm sick of seeing people call Peter's power ''empathy''. His power is called mimicry.

Who says so? I though that mimicry was more what Monica does, copying things within her physical limits.

On the other hand, peter absorbs powers, he doesn't "copy" them... besides we "know" powers are triggered by feelings... why don't you search for the word empath or empathy in the dictionary?

I think it really applies to Peter's both power and personality.

While we're at it, I wish people would stop calling Mr. Bennet HRG or "The Man in the Horn Rimmed Glasses" since he clearly does not wear TRUE horn rimmed glasses.

Yes, but A. we don't know if we can trust Bob's word, and B. he may have simply been the one pulling the strings behind some other powered person who did this, in much the same way he was purportedly pulling the strings behind Maury's attacks on people.

But why? Claire has survived walking through one of Ted's nuclear blasts and Angela, Nathan and Peter all seemed to believe that Peter's healing ability would allow him to survive going nuclear in New York(they apparently weren't aware that the power seems to make you immune to its own effects). There seem to be virtually no limits to the healing power as we've seen it so far. I don't see why it would be implausible for Kensei to survive the explosion and live to the present day.


See my previous response to this idea.

If Adam was the first person with abilities and he is an empath like Peter then he wasn't the first. There would have to have been an immortal around 400 years ago too. It would be a useless power to acquire others powers if nobody had them in the time you were living in. What I could buy is that every generation has a group and there may have been one in 1671 too. If that's the case there would be at least five groups of Heroes for each generation since Kensei.

He isn't an empath. I posted this exact same theory about six weeks ago, but since then it's become ( I think ) apparent that he only has the regenerating ability. If he was an empath, how would they keep him locked up ? He'd presumably have some kind of ability to get out of a locked room. He also wouldn't need Maury to help him kill the others if he could just use Maury's ability himself. Nor would he need Peter's help now.

He fell of the roof with Kaito, healed, and legged it. By the looks of it. Probably.

I hope Adam doesn't turn out to be an empath. I hope the others are so scared of him because they can't kill him due to his regenerative abilities. Can you picture how expensive it would be to show two empaths battling? Remember Pete and Sylar's fight?

I thought for a moment Adam might be a sponge like Peter, but there is already so much history concerning Adam. If he simply time-traveled instead of lived for 400 years or whatever, then the company wouldn't have any info on him, because he skipped through time instead of lived it. Also, he wouldn't tell Peter "we are going to change history", he would just use his time-travel ability and do it himself. I suspect he is going to attempt to have Peter move him through time to "change history."

Great points everyone. I'm gonna have to go with the theory that he only has the spontaneous regeneration power. This does make him formidable, and could easily explain his statements to Peter, his postion in the company, and his need for the assistance of others. In regards to the snow in Florida that was going to be a tsunami... I think that this hints towards a special with cryokenisis (freezing power) similar to the one Sylar used several times in season one. I don't believe at all that kensei was the one responsible for this event. Basicly it seems extremely unlikely that Adam/kensei is an empath.

Also to point out a possible misunderstanding Claude stated "you're one of those." he didn't say that Peter was another one of those. I would assume that the company had made projections as to powers which were plausible to occur. their need for Mohinder beyond his blood is somewhat contrary. Based on Angela's declaration of Peter being the most powerful of them all I would say that another empath if ever having existed no longer does. this power by it's very nature seems likely to be recessive even to the other abilities.

Final thing before I end my rant... Angela after telling Peter that he was the most powerful and he had to save them, blah, blah, blah. Proceeded to talk about how good and pure he was, how he had an infinite capacity for compassion and self sacrifice and all of that. Her references to him being so powerful and the only one who could save everyone, may have been as much based on his character as his ability.

How would Hiros power help Kensai live through being charred ash? Sounds more like Claire, than Hiro.

His power is called Empathic Mimicry.

Bob didn't say that Adam could stop tsunamis or make snow. He said they, as a group, did things they thought was for the greater good, and suggested that they turned a tsunami, poised to destroy the eastern seaboard, was turned to snow, over Miami.

If Adam was an empath he would have had all of the founders powers plus all of the powers of all the the other SGs he had came into contact with in the 400 years since he first met him.(not to mention Hiro's power which would be about as bad as you could get for ane evil character). I am guessing the 12 would not have had much success locking him up or really doing anything to him. He would be pretty much unstoppable.

I don't really think that Adam is an empath. Firstly, because, as we know, all the powers are somehow related to man's personality, and I think we'll all agree that Adam is not an emphatic type of person. Secondly, don't you think it would quite cliche to have two empaths working together? They would be unstoppable!And that brought to my mind the thought that I don't imagine how the "old guard" would lock him somewhere if he was emphatic and had all of their powers.

BTW: Could some of you please do some simple math? 2007-1671=336 from all I know, and Kensei was about 30 years old when we met him. So, he can't be older than, let's say, 370 years. My mathematic mind is terrified by what I see. 400 years? Even 500?! People, please, have mercy!

I tend to agree Adam isn't an empath. But his 300 + years of experience make him just as dangerous as if he did have a bunch of supplementary powers.

No, he isn't.

Picky Picky! I think rounding 370 up to 400 is acceptable math, it's a lot more accurate than rounding it down to 300. 500 is streching it a little, but the guy did say "almost 500", so give him a little leeway, especially since we don't know for sure how old Kensei is when we first see him. It's hard to judge the age of a man who never ages.

Quick side thought....if Adam did come to America back in the 17/18th century, how many times do you think he got burned at the stake for being a witch?

We will have to see if your theory is right.
NO ONE knows at this point.
I'm sure we will find out next episode.

hahahah sorry for the "almost 500", the truth is I never calculated his age... I just read so many times that number that I automatically wrote it down without thinking about it...
bad bad bad =)

I think adam is going to kill hiro for stealing his girl .Adam knows what hiro can do

Well, sorry for my overreacting, but I just were reading most of time "over 400 years" and this "nearly 500" just made me post this It's my silly habit to be precise about numbers, but that's what happens to people, when they study Math


I don't think so... Or maybe he is going to kill him - but after he'll make Hiro suffer as he promised. Adam seems to be not forgiving type, so he won't make it fast for Hiro, I'm sure about it.

I doubt that. If he's lived all these years he could have killed Hiro's father or grandfather and prevented him from being born.

I thought of this the other day, the Spanish Inquisition would have been rough.

It seems that people with the regen power (Claire and Kensei) don't feel pain as much or as badly as regular people do. Plus he must have been getting stabbed, cut, shot, burned etc. for a while so he's probably doesn't even feel it beyond a slight pinching. Humans can get used to anything. And on topic he's just immortal, that's all. The regen ability probably stopped his cells from dying once he reached the prime of his life and he's stayed that way since then. And I think Kensei is a way cooler villian than Sylar although Sylar is cool for the whole crazy villian image. Kensei is much more "comic book" in my opinion. I mean that last line in the ep before the tent explodes "You WILL suffer" so freakin awesome. I had one of those OH cupcakes moments when he introduced himelf as Adam.

Where is the hero who has regeneration in Kensei's time? Also, if Kensei was able to time travel, why wouldn't he just go and kill Hiro or Kaito immediately?

He wanted to wait for the right time or he might have just found out, he might also use peter against hiro .

No,we do not know for sure as of yet.

However, how about sticking to what we already know and choosing to go with the most simple explanation for what we have seen?

When you are driving around in your car or riding on a train and you see a cow through the window what conclusion do you derive from that?

Do you conclude that there is a picture of a cow standing there or that there is a cardboard display of a cow standing there?

Renrut,

Adam/Kensei was imprisoned and may not have had an opportunity to exact his revenge on Hiro until now. Killing Hiro's father or grandfather before Hiro's birth (thus, preventing Hiro's birth) would not cause Hiro to suffer, which was Kensei's promise to Hiro.

But, killing Hiro's dad now does cause Hiro pain. So, as long as Adam can kill people important to Hiro now, Adam can cause Hiro pain and suffering.

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It seems highly unlikely that Adam would be an empath. He would, after 400 years, be so powerful that he would have no need to employ a novice empath, namely Peter, to do his bidding.

Can you imagine how powerful and how evolved Peter would be after 400 years! No, Adam is not likely to be an empath. But, I am very interested in uncovering the mystery surrounding Claude's reference to Peter being "...one of them!", indicating that there is/was at least one other.

I am curious about that too. However, I actually hope Peter turns out to be the only empath and what Claude said was merely phrased badly or an idea the writers toyed with but never actually decided to go with.

Of course this is all just wild speculation, but I'm wondering if it isn't Yaeko. As she said "everyone underestimates the women." And she was quite quick to accept the fact that Hiro had a power. Also, I'm pretty sure we find out about Kensei's power after he meets her, not to mention how shocked he is to finds out he can regenerate (which would mean he'd never accidentally cut himself and healed way to fast).

Yeah, Adam just can't be an empath, for the simple reason that he 'freezes" when Hiro stops time.
Remember Peter in the subway: Future Hiro's time stopping doesn't affect him.

I guess the problem is solved.

I was thinking along the same lines a short while back. However, I do not like the idea too much. Still, I somehow have the Yaeko will turn up again somehow.

Manmandiran,

Excellent!

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I agree, great logic!

However, judging from my experience with this forum I predict that someone will come along theorizing that Adam was actually just acting as if he was frozen in time...

Great, but wrong logic. He was merely acting when Hiro froze time for no reason whatsoever.

rofl, jk.

Adam is immortal. Not an empath. He practically would be god after 330 years of absorbing powers. Future!Peter was pretty strong after on 5 years. Adam wouldn't need to use anyone if he was a 300+ year old empath.

I wonder how many times Adam sowed his oats during all that time.
And if he ever loved again. Cuz it still wouldn't work, he would have to divulge his secret to them eventually. And then even if the girl was cool with it he would eventually have to watch them grow old and die.
Which would suck.

Now that I think about it, disregard my last post.

If your theory is correct, then where did he get the ability to heal/to be immortal?
That would mean there was another one in his time period that is still living.