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yourhero
Just curious, is the date/year in the show not 2007?

When Peter teleported to the 2008 future, the guy at the quarantine center said that the first case of shanti virus was march 20, 2007, before it spread to the rest of the world killing 93%.

i kinda assumed the present-time was 2007 (ie. peter/caitlin teleported from nov2007 montreal)... but i guess not? i guess the present-time of the show is before march20,2007?
themightytruk
The current timeline is 4 months after the explosion was supposed to happen in November, 2006. That puts the current time at March, 2007.
Shoreline83
QUOTE (yourhero @ Nov 9 2007, 12:31 PM) *
Just curious, is the date/year in the show not 2007?

When Peter teleported to the 2008 future, the guy at the quarantine center said that the first case of shanti virus was march 20, 2007, before it spread to the rest of the world killing 93%.

i kinda assumed the present-time was 2007 (ie. peter/caitlin teleported from nov2007 montreal)... but i guess not? i guess the present-time of the show is before march20,2007?


The present time of the show is before March 20, 2007. "How to Stop an Exploding Man" took place in November 2006. The current season is four months after that (March 2007).
Emy
In my opinion, it would make sense to be March, 20 2007.

Doing simple math: November 8, 2006 plus four months would give March 8, 2007. This season events could happen in about, let's say, one week (that would be March, 15) and so we have some days (what is it? four episodes?) before this season (I mean, this volume) showdown. I suppose this event could be counted as the reason of the first cause of virus (officialy, of course, because we know that it was Shanti who first fell sick and died because of it).
companyman75
maybe niki is the first virus outbreak person? after injecting herself with the incurable virus?
FrankyFVX
QUOTE (companyman75 @ Nov 10 2007, 12:04 AM) *
maybe niki is the first virus outbreak person? after injecting herself with the incurable virus?

yeah, that's what I was thinking as well...
Joe Ravenclaw
But notice that that date is not actually the first case... It was the first reported case. I think that March 20th is the day that the company decides that it can't handle the virus by themselves, and must warn the public. I just thought that was interesting... smile.gif
Beez
If we are talking in the current timeline, it would be the Haitian
canadianprincess
wat was the day that DL died?

i was talking with my sister this morning, and we were discussing the virus, and possibly DL could be the first case, if of course, he died of the virus, and then thats how niki got the strain of the virus.
corrine
QUOTE (canadianprincess @ Nov 10 2007, 08:08 PM) *
wat was the day that DL died?

i was talking with my sister this morning, and we were discussing the virus, and possibly DL could be the first case, if of course, he died of the virus, and then thats how niki got the strain of the virus.


Semi Spoiler:
on the heroeswiki site, it the blurb for monday's episode says: "D.L. makes the ultimate sacrifice for Niki and Micah."

so im guessing he died on duty
canadianprincess
QUOTE (corrine @ Nov 10 2007, 11:13 PM) *
Semi Spoiler:
on the heroeswiki site, it the blurb for monday's episode says: "D.L. makes the ultimate sacrifice for Niki and Micah."

so im guessing he died on duty



*shrug*

well, there goes my theory lol tongue.gif
fARSIGHT
QUOTE (Joe Ravenclaw @ Nov 10 2007, 06:10 PM) *
But notice that that date is not actually the first case... It was the first reported case. I think that March 20th is the day that the company decides that it can't handle the virus by themselves, and must warn the public. I just thought that was interesting... smile.gif


Or maybe that's the day when the virus crossed over to a non-powered person (which would be significant because that's when they know for sure it's not their funs and games that can only affect a certain subset of individuals anymore)... Or it can be when they first discovered that the new strain is airborne, as even in a roomful of specials when Niki got infected, so far they didn't seem to take any precaution that they can possibly catch it from her... And no one seems to worry that Matt or Ted catch it from Molly in the last season... Since assuming that 4 months later is March 8th, and assuming a week has passed by for the last 7 episodes... They only have a few days left between Niki's infection and the supposed origin case...
MrsGoogly
QUOTE (fARSIGHT @ Nov 11 2007, 05:49 AM) *
Or maybe that's the day when the virus crossed over to a non-powered person (which would be significant because that's when they know for sure it's not their funs and games that can only affect a certain subset of individuals anymore)... Or it can be when they first discovered that the new strain is airborne, as even in a roomful of specials when Niki got infected, so far they didn't seem to take any precaution that they can possibly catch it from her... And no one seems to worry that Matt or Ted catch it from Molly in the last season... Since assuming that 4 months later is March 8th, and assuming a week has passed by for the last 7 episodes... They only have a few days left between Niki's infection and the supposed origin case...


How would Matt or Ted have got it from Molly in Season 1?

Ted never met Molly. And Mohinder cured Molly before she met any other specials.

How did Molly get the virus? Did the Company infect her and use her to determine if Mohinder's blood was indeed the cure?

I assume the reason they're not immediately panicking about Niki infecting others is that the Company knows how it spreads, and that it is not airborne ... yet.
fARSIGHT
QUOTE (MrsGoogly @ Nov 11 2007, 01:09 PM) *
How would Matt or Ted have got it from Molly in Season 1?

Ted never met Molly. And Mohinder cured Molly before she met any other specials.

How did Molly get the virus? Did the Company infect her and use her to determine if Mohinder's blood was indeed the cure?

I assume the reason they're not immediately panicking about Niki infecting others is that the Company knows how it spreads, and that it is not airborne ... yet.


They were there with Molly in the last few episodes... when Molly was still sick on her bed and Bennet, Matt, and Ted broke into the company... If it was airborne both of them would have a chance of getting it... Since not even Mohinder was concerned about it I think that says it's not airborne...

But that raises another question... If Mohinder knows it's not airborne (by "airborne" I also include being carried on minute saliva and mucus droplets in the air or on objects the carrier touches, like flu or SARS), why isn't he even the least bit suspicious on how Molly and the Haitian could have gotten it? It's not like every day that a little girl would come into contect with contaminated blood or bodily fluid or something... It's sort of like a young girl randomly got AIDS and no one bother wondering where she got it from...
MrsGoogly
QUOTE (fARSIGHT @ Nov 11 2007, 10:23 AM) *
They were there with Molly in the last few episodes... when Molly was still sick on her bed and Bennet, Matt, and Ted broke into the company... If it was airborne both of them would have a chance of getting it... Since not even Mohinder was concerned about it I think that says it's not airborne...

But that raises another question... If Mohinder knows it's not airborne (by "airborne" I also include being carried on minute saliva and mucus droplets in the air or on objects the carrier touches, like flu or SARS), why isn't he even the least bit suspicious on how Molly and the Haitian could have gotten it? It's not like every day that a little girl would come into contect with contaminated blood or bodily fluid or something... It's sort of like a young girl randomly got AIDS and no one bother wondering where she got it from...



Ted never met Molly. He went off with Claire and Peter, and then almost immediately got caught by the FBI and then killed by Sylar.

By the time Mr Bennet and Matt reached Mohinder and Molly, she had already been cured of the virus - proven by the fact that she located Matt in the building ("my other Hero") just prior to Mr Bennet and Matt bursting in on her.

I'm surprised Mohinder isn't curious as to how Molly got the virus. Particularly as it was the same virus that killed his sister.
fARSIGHT
QUOTE (MrsGoogly @ Nov 11 2007, 01:29 PM) *
Ted never met Molly. He went off with Claire and Peter, and then almost immediately got caught by the FBI and then killed by Sylar.

By the time Mr Bennet and Matt reached Mohinder and Molly, she had already been cured of the virus - proven by the fact that she located Matt in the building ("my other Hero") just prior to Mr Bennet and Matt bursting in on her.


whoops... my bad... lol
kalysto
Has it ever been revealed how Shanti became sick originally? Perhaps it was a manufactured virus, someone wanted to activate dormant powers, or even trying to create them. It sort of makes Shanti and Mohinder similar to Maya and Alejandro in that way, I suppose. One has the virus, the other the cure.
MrsGoogly
QUOTE (kalysto @ Nov 11 2007, 12:41 PM) *
Has it ever been revealed how Shanti became sick originally? Perhaps it was a manufactured virus, someone wanted to activate dormant powers, or even trying to create them. It sort of makes Shanti and Mohinder similar to Maya and Alejandro in that way, I suppose. One has the virus, the other the cure.


And how did the Company know that Shanti died of the same virus Molly had contracted?

And was it just an almighty coincidence that they brought in the one man who's blood could cure her to look after her?
herlepras
QUOTE (MrsGoogly @ Nov 12 2007, 02:10 PM) *
And how did the Company know that Shanti died of the same virus Molly had contracted?

And was it just an almighty coincidence that they brought in the one man who's blood could cure her to look after her?


Well,In the episode,Thompson does say .."Theres only been 1 other case,your sister"...to Mohinder


And how did everyone come to know of this virus name as "The Shanthi Virus" in 1 year?
Did the private company go Public? laugh.gif
MrsGoogly
QUOTE (herlepras @ Nov 12 2007, 06:10 AM) *
Well,In the episode,Thompson does say .."Theres only been 1 other case,your sister"...to Mohinder



You’d think Mohinder, clever chap that he is, would ask how Molly got the virus. In fact, this would seem to a non-scientist such as myself a fundamental clue as to how, why and to whom the virus is transmitted.
Ronald
QUOTE (herlepras @ Nov 12 2007, 09:10 AM) *
Well,In the episode,Thompson does say .."Theres only been 1 other case,your sister"...to Mohinder
And how did everyone come to know of this virus name as "The Shanthi Virus" in 1 year?
Did the private company go Public? laugh.gif

I was thinking the virus in Shanti was created by her body making a defense against area of the brain that made her special or formed badly which created the virus. Same thing could have happened to Molly and it doesn't say the last case was Shanti but last known case. After Molly, Mohinder went on a hunt for people with the same simptoms. Tried to join an organization that could study the virus and was turned down. Check out the comic.

It could also be the organization that made a chemical to mess up people's DNA. Maybe they tried it on Shanti without the professor knowing it. Later they could have tried it on other people and Molly was infected. They could be trying to find out how to use the chemical with the most effect.
amolion
surely, 1st case we know of is ...shanti
2nd ...molly?
Beez
QUOTE (amolion @ Nov 12 2007, 09:46 AM) *
surely, 1st case we know of is ...shanti
2nd ...molly?


You are right, but Molly's case was in Nov 06
Ronald
Now, wasn't Mahinders father also was looking into the first strain of the virus before he died. His daughter became ill and he had a son to try and cure her but Mohinder was born too late. He then did research and found out that a lot of people have the same DNA marker. Must have found that a lot of these people lived in America so he came to America to try and find people with this DNA marker. What do you think his next step would have been. Of course, he would have checked to see if any of these people are showing the same simptoms as Shanti. Don't know how long he was searching or if he found any other case of the virus. But my guess would be that he found other cases otherwise why would he associate people with power to the virus. You need at least 2 cases of the virus to bring forth even a small indication that both was related. Everybody is just going off the TV. Also, Sylar might have been hindering his research.

We do know that after Mohinder got over the fact that his father died and how he died, Mohinder started looking into Sylar to stop him and to catch up with what his father found. After he caught up to his fathers research, and escaped Sylar, Mohinder was asked to look at Molly. Started a series of test that ended in the conclusion that the only known cure was his own blood. Then, after the explosion, he took 4 months to establish himself in a repitible institution and find others with the same simptoms. Found one person with the simptoms but wasn't special. The company finally asked him to join and gave him a base of operation to study the virus more.

Now which part of this isn't scientific.

Thowing a chair into a case full of samples and being thrown into another by Niki.
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