Dissatisfied with the latest episode? Got a complaint or nitpick about the a particular part or storyline in the episode? Vent here.

Not a thing about Sylar and Candice.

Ok, why would they want to lock Adam and Peter next to each other knowing that both COULD BE DANGEROUS?

If Adam's that scary, why not chained him or lock him up in an isolated area?

*sigh* I guessed most of this episode, I really need to start staying out of the spoiler section.

D.L.'s death=lame as hell

They were in a shack in the middle of a Central American jungle. Seeing as the first time Sylar saw Candice was episode 2x01 that means they were there the entire time. Wow, thrilling television right there.

The disambiguity with Nathan's beard. No way it could've grown that bushy in 2 weeks. Small detail, but still.

No more split personalities...just god..please, no more.

Ugh.

Nathan could be a hairy monkey

I was kind of confused they had zero surveillance in those cells. If they really wanted to keep people with superpowers there, a camera or audio feed would have done them nicely. They should have known Adam was manipulating Peter and should have known they were planning a mistake. Couldn't suspend disbelief that the company wasn't more so on top of things.

DLs death was pretty lame.

Maya and Alejandro's plot was pretty pointless as I've said in other threads.

No Sylar or Candice.

Best part of the episode was watching Nathan fly Peter into the sky and watching him briefly fall through the clouds; I found it exhilarating.

They could've cut 5min's from the twins and show us who rescued sylar and if he was on "the Haitian pills" or how the company 'broke' him.

Sylar's story has him as a babysitter. I know they said he would be in season 2 but so are commercials and after 8 episodes he has taken a back seat to Chapter 2. Also Matt's dad was worse than Sylar and he's just a "blunt instrument". I was hoping for more from Matt's dad in putting up a fight but is it me or does it look like characters are transitioned in and quickly cast aside?

Someone brought up a great point about Nathan growing a huge beard in less than two weeks.

EVERYTHING was too contrived, forced, rushed, and simple.

DL death = lame
PETER MUST DIE
Adam is getting annoying
No Sylar background that needed to be there (how is he still alive?)
No Matt background that terribly needed to be there (how did he get molly?, not die?, divorced?, his unborn child?)
I don't think the Bennets needed a backstory.
Nothing that I did not already guess - mostly because I noticed Nathan's cuts were healing very fast, like after he hit the mirror. POINTLESS POINTLESS POINTLESS - I am giving Heroes one more week to impress me, if not, I am not watching the rest of the season, which is sad. Last week felt rushed, but it had a lot of closure and felt good. this week was quite the opposite. No Hiro, No Matt, No Claire, No HRG, what the hell.

Coolest thing about the episode - learning that Niki has DID, I think it is VERY clear now that she does, it seemed like that early on, but this sealed the deal.

This was a Peter show.

Poor Greg Grunberg - He gets in great performances and finally his character seems to be connected, and he just keeps getting cut. Tonights episode would have been great with Matt in it I think. best character on the show. he needs more screen time - less of the EMO boy more of the Strong man. he is great.

You shouldn't give up on the show. I just think it was too much info to be covered in an hour.

LAMMMMEEE!

there was so much that wasnt answered and so much time wasted on stuff.

why niki didn't avenge DL with her supa strength!?!?
(ok the answer to that could be obvious, but still)

Another small frustration, after all that, DL is taken out by some random junkie/criminal?

It's just ironically funny in a morbid kind of way.

I know it's important to make Niki's life as miserable as possible but really?

In a way, I guess it kind of sums up the neglect he suffered through season one perfectly, killed almighty Linderman but they apparently saw fit to have him go out with a whimper..

They should have left him in. I have always liked D.L.

I guess they decided they only needed one bald black guy:

There is so much to complain about this episode. I will keep it short and simple.

1. DL's death was ridiculous
2. Alejandro and Maya are still boring as hell
3. Peter and Adam being able to communicate so easily when they were supposed to be isolated.
4. No answers to the fate of Sylar
5. Elle's character and flirty highschool behavior is very annoying.

I was expecting so much more from this episode but I guess it is hard to follow an incredible episode from last week.

Or maybe the actor wanted to do something else?

D.L.'s death was badly written out. too forced i say.

1) who wrote the message on the mirror? i couldn't remember gina writing it on her way out of the house, and i don't think it was niki either, it wasn't her style to say "c-ya" where she would of written "help me D.L." or something along those lines. and even if gina did write it, was she that clumbsy knowing D.L. would know where to look for her? a little forced? okay... maybe i can forgive that

2) How did D.L. even know where to find her in L.A. or at the right club in L.A. for that matter? oh wait... maybe gina left him a lipstick message oh his mirror too *sarcasm*. forced again?

this was all set-up because Niki never took her meds? i guess that was the moral of the story folks, always take your meds, because bad things will happen if ya dont. sarcasm aside, i just felt they forced this storyline too noticeably just to kill D.L. off. atleast gave him a heroic death instead, because he is one of the truest heroes on the show. all of the rest of the storylnes were all good, except for maya's i think. kinda boring, but nothing new aye, kids.

For me Maya's story added just enough to want to give them the chance.

the preview last week said, "Where did Sylar go?" as one of the questions that they said, "...will be answered." and it wasn't.

the whole episode was informative i suppose. but definitely a let down as far as i'm concerned.

I agree except for the fact that the preview show a blood trail to the manhole cover with the words "Where did Sylar go" followed by all of your questions will be answered. Why put it in the preview? When you answer a valid question like that with sarcasm it's kind of insulting. They shouldn't have included it as one of the questions that would be answered in the previews if they weren't going to bring it up. If they felt they had already answered the question by having Candace say she dragged him away then why put it in the preview? We all knew he was in the jungle of Central America.

Also.. doesn't the season start with Nathan having a restraining order against him so he can't get close to his kids and he's going through a divorce? That bugged me after the show.. wondering how Nathan's family demise happened THAT fast?! Especially after Angela talked with his wife, I was under the impression that Angela was using the power of suggestion on her.. but I guess it didn't work?!

Also.. I was really looking forward to the SYLAR question being answered after the preview and was very disappointed when there was NOTHING about it!

The best part about this episode. Okay, I still like Matt but after last week, Hiro's idiocy, Claire's lameness, and HRG going out of control started to turn me off.

Ok, maybe I'm not remembering an encounter between Peter and DL, but could someone inform me how in the HELL Peter has DL's power? I recall Kirby Plaza as the only place where the two were in proximity, and even then DL was shot and pretty far away from Peter.

Even if Peter DID absorb DL's power that day, how the heck would he know he could phase through the wall?

Oh, and DL's death was some serious weaksauce.

Have fun sitting on your couch watching Dancing with the Stars on Mondays while I watch Heroes, at least on Tuesday mornings I won't have to read your ****** anymore.



When did everyone jump on the DL bandwagon? He is dead and was an "okay" character at best. He was always there to support Niki and Micah, that's it.

I really liked the Maya scenes. I think people are already pre-set against anything her character does now, because of the slow build-up of all the characters this season, so no matter what she does, she'll always be "that girl" that's taking scenes away from people like Matt, or Claire, etc. ...even if it was fabulous.

I wish they had made "Four Months Ago" the 1st episode of the Season. I think a lot of people would've accepted the slow-buildup if they had been given their juice at the very start of the Season.

Whatever...anyway...

What more do you need to know about Sylar that hasn't already been answered. Candice told Sylar what happened. She pulled him off Kirby Plaza, and has been watching over him until the day he "woke up" on that beach. What? Would you have liked scenes showing her treating his bandages? Wiping his forehead? C'mon.

Same with Matt. Matt summed up what happened to him in the gap at the very beginning of the Season. Had falling out with wife, moved to NY, raising Molly with Mohinder (the only two men who seem to care about her well-being).

This was the episode to fill in the blanks for stories that had not been revealed yet..not for ones where we already have all the necessary information.

Niki was the most boring and pointless part of Season 1. Apparently the writers weren't happy enough with that, so they made her even more boring and pointless in Season 2.

No Hiro? Okay I can live with that since he was back in the 1600s, but about Ando?

I too would have liked to see more of the Matt story line, like how he goes from being a beat cop in L.A. (or wherever) to taking a detective exam for the NYPD.

The Peter story wasn't bad, imo the best part of the episode. The bomb going off, and watching Peter run from the Haitian were both great... only problem was both of those scenes combined were about 5 minutes long. Great, 5 minutes of good story line and 55 minutes of fillers/commercials.

In the promos leading up to this episode they said that all of our questions were going to be answered. The only question that was answered this episode was 'How did D.L. die?' and to be honest with you, after learning how I wish they just kept it a mystery.

Way to go Tim Kring, good job continually making your viewers dissatisfied and quite frankly disinterested. I guess I should expect as much from the guy that brought us such fine films as 'Teen Wolf Too.'


p.s. Don't get me started on Claire/West

• Mayo and Alejandro waste too much bandwith and add nothing...let Sylar kill them immediately.
• DL's death couldn't have been more lame. Did they dig up one of the old writers of Battlestar 1980 to write his demise?
• Niki doesn't need another stupid personality to get in the way...have her team up with some of the regular heroes, and start going out and kicking butt.
• you know that because Claire wasn't in this weeks episode...what that means...75% of next week will be catching up on more wasted bandwidth of Claire and West kissyface and plotting more pranks on mean cheerleaders...and the other 25% will be wasted on Micah teaching Monica how to take a computer motherboard apart and reassemble it while singing Pavoratti...how boring

What ever happened to Sylar?
When will Sylar get his powers back?
What about Maury?
What about the group of 12?
What about Kaito's and Angela's power?
How about introducing Maarten?
What about bringing back Future-Hiro?

Those are the things that are interesting to Heroes fans..not Claire's highschool social life, not Maya's constant emotional death-fits, and not DL's stupid demise.

I like this season a lot more than most of the people here seem to. I still sit at the edge of my seat from the beginning to end of every episode and enjoy every minute of all of them. I do think that this season is a bit weaker than season 1, though. There are way too many plot holes. Why would they take Sylar all the way to central America to isolate him, but put supposedly dangerous Peter and Adam next to each other? Why was the Haitian involved with the company again? What is Angela's role in all of this? How do thevarious factions of the company fit or not fit togather? Why did nobody remember the explosion and why was Nathan's congressional seat dismissed without even a mention? I realize that this is Heroes, but some things do need better explaining.

I didn't miss Sylar in this episode since we already knew his basic fate. Did we really need to see Candice again played by someone other than Missy Peregrym? I don't mind the twins, in fact I really like Alejandro, but it would be nice to see their story develop better. The wedding scene might have best if it was used in the premeire. Fortunately West wasn't in this episode, because IMO his story line is the weakest and he was badly cast. Hopefully things will improve, but I still love the show and will continue to watch as long as it lasts no matter what they present.

PREACH!


I'm in complete agreement!

All of those plot holes above besides "Why would they take Sylar all the way to central America to isolate him, but put supposedly dangerous Peter and Adam next to each other?" are more questions still unanswered or just not yet important enough. I do agree, that the whole Sylar thing is a bit of a plot hole, but I am wondering if there are various factions of the company.

I wish Maya's scenes in this episode would have replaced the scenes in episode one, they were way more passionate.

"Those are the things that are interesting to Heroes fans..not Claire's highschool social life, not Maya's constant emotional death-fits, and not DL's stupid demise."

Correction. Those are the things that are interesting to that Heroes fan. Many of your questions were already answered this season, or can't be answered yet because the story hasn't gotten that far.

Some of the rest of us Heroes fans are liking Claire, Maya, and DL's stories.

I too had a problem with the Nathan storyline last night. Are we to believe that in 2-3 weeks he grows a long beard, becomes a drunk, has a restraining order to keep him away from his kids, drops out of politics and becomes a complete disappointment to his mother? "Four Months Ago" needed to be a two parter. As far as losing his family goes, once he is physically attractive again he could have gone to see his wife and floated for her and solved that problem. It seems he was telling her he could fly while in the hospital.

The restraining order probably went into effect the second Angela told Nathan's wife he was crazy. The beard does tick me off a bit, I know I can grow a beard fast, but not that fast. The beard would have to been after he couldn't see his kids though, since at the school was the first time he had scene the children and they hadn't seen his beard before.

I do think his degradation towards alcohol was correct after he healed, his suffering from pain was probably okay to him knowing his brother is dead, but thinking his brother died and he is all and well, probably tore him up.

Nathan's beard is most likely a production oversight. It's been stated in commentary that they wanted Nathan to look fuzzy in ep 1, but Adrian apparently grows a beard REALLY fast. It was a lot fuzzier than they expected, but they ran with it anyway.

Still, there's a lot more going on with Nathan and his family than we got last night. I would imagine it would take more than just Angela's talk to get Heidi to turn on Nathan, especially after her healing and such. We need that hole closed, pronto.

My biggest gripe is the fact that Peter was able to ditch his meds so easily. As has been said, you would think the Company would be keeping a close eye on him (and Adam as well). As with Sylar, the Company is shown to be somewhat inept at keeping heroes under lock and key, and that diminishes them as a force in the fans' eyes.

Yes, but it said two weeks ago. How many weeks have passed since we've watched him. He has hung out with Matt, shaved his beard, visited his mother in the hospital. It has been more 4 months since Kirby, hence the episode title "4 months ago". All the stuff that has been taking place at the start of this season have been from 4 months later on to the present. When they flash "Three Weeks ago" on the screen are they talking 3 weeks after Kirby and still 3 months before the season premiere episode? When they say "Three Weeks Ago" them must be using "Four Months Later" as the starting point and not the actual present.

That's probably because in the original plan, Nathan was the one who supposed to lose his memory and became amnesiac, wandering around for those missing 4 months. So when Kring asked Adrian to grow beard, he asked him to do it right away after S1 ended. Kring himself admitted that in a hindsight, maybe he should have just asked Adrian to grow it a few weeks before shooting started.



It's not that difficult to be a drunk in a few days. Nathan is not really an alcoholic. He just basically drowns his sorrow in alcohol and get drunk from day to day. But he doesn't really have an addiction to alcohol. The restraining order, as someone above me said, probably gone into effect the minute Heidi believed what Angela said that Nathan is craazy. Or maybe Heidi just want to protect her children from their crazy grandma.



That I agree. "Four Months Ago" should have been a two-parter and the writers should have reduced one of the annoyingly slow early episodes (episode 2-3).

Somebody explain this. All the little chapters of last night's episode say stuff "Two Months Ago" "Three Weeks Ago". They must be talking like two months before the season premier and three weeks before the season premier. Then why flash "Today" on the screen when they are talking about much later than three weeks ago. How much time has passed between the Four Month later episode and "Today"? That should have said "Four Weeks later" or something because three weeks ago implies three weeks before today and that is not correct.

The writers and/or Kring have gotten really sloppy. You have to start wondering if anyone is paying attention besides the viewers.

On top of that, right after Angela sees Nathan cured in his hospital room. It goes to the scene in the car with Sylar and Maya and the subtitle says "TODAY". I know a few months have gone by since the season opener so the "Three Weeks Ago" in the hospital room is three weeks before the season opener "Four Months Later". Then right after that the subtitle when Nathan gets out of the cab in the rain is "Present Day". What was the difference between "Today" and "Present Day" and why would they show both of them?

Are we at the bottom of the barrel and scraping for complaints now?

Why would they put "Today" on the screen and only 45 seconds later put "Present Day" on the screen. Why is that the bottom of the barrel of complaints. Once they were up to present day it's ridiculous to remind us of that 45 seconds later. It's not a complaint to point out a mistake.

Also, if someone tells me to show up somewhere at 8 pm and they will tell me what happened to Sylar, I have a right to complain.

Actually, I just watched the episode, the "Present Day" tag comes up when Peter comes out of his vision. Now I know that your argument is still a bit valid, but it works more with Peter than it did with Nathan.

I will agree that I am also sick of the false advertisements with the commercials and since I work in Marketing, I know how easily it is to have your vision distorted, but Kring need to put his reigns around NBC and keep them in check.

Same time though, NBC might do whatever they want just get their ratings high, not worrying about long term effects.

I dunno bout this episode, I was all pumped up and excited since last week, but it was kinda of a letdown . My first gripe is not knowing the circumstances behind Sylar getting to Mexico under the care of Betty/Candice. We know that he was there the 4 months healing, but who sent her out there? Bob? If so then what was Bob trying to do capture Peter and Sylar? For what, to protect everyone? Something is not right about that, and I was hoping to see who Candice/Betty was talking to. Second, yeah we did not need to see how Maya and Alej got to running, it was repetitve in my mind, but whatever. Third, learning how DL dies was lame. He's been shot how many times? And finally dies from that creepy guy? Seriously that was hella weak!! At least be original, he could have just died in the fire, Micah would remember him as a hero and so we move on. But that was just lousy writing. I did like learning more about Elle, what makes her so crazy and what not. Oh well, I am still looking forward to how they complete this story line in the next three weeks.

From the second the show Maya is in the car with Sylar they show "Today" all the way to the end of the program is still "Today". The added "present day" was not needed. The one 45 seconds earlier was still the same "today".

Neither here nor there but how does a person who walks through walls carry a solid person? If touching the person makes the person also pass through walls how can he pick them up. When he phased he reached inside Linderman and then turned solid again. How can he pick someone up if his hands would pass through them?