I was wondering if anyone would be willing to help create a timeline for the everything that's happened (with this episode in mind)? I'm trying to get an idea of where exactly in the calendar year "present day" or "today" is supposed to take place.

Last week Ando told Hiro it had been "months" since they saved the world. In last night's episode when they said "Three After last week it was said that Adam escaped two weeks ago. So it has been 4 1/2 months since the explosion.

Really? "Today" is the most recent time on the show. Peter meeting Adam in Montreal.. And since there was a 4 month jump from the November Elections (last season) to this season, that means Heroes is taking place sometime in mid-late March 2007, depending on how many days episodes 2-1 to 2-7 took. You don't need to know anything about the episode Four Months Ago to figure out the 'today' date in the show.

Why do you need an exact date for anyway?

So far this season only about a week has passed... One episode generally equals one day Heroes time. I don't think Peter was in that crate for 4 months. Two weeks is hard enough to believe. We're in March of 2007. That'd be about 4 months after the explosion in NYC... and in Future NYC, they said the first occurence of the Shanti Virus (that they know about) was reported on March 20, 2007 (I'm pretty sure -- Niki's probably who he was referring to). So we're somewhere in there.

I didn't say he was in the crate for four months. In last week's episode Bob showed Nathan a video of Peter and said it was taken 3 months ago. You are making the same mistake some people are making. When they say "Three Weeks ago" as a caption last night they are talking 3 weeks before the Season 2 premier, not present day. Last nights episode was actually 7 months ago. When Nathan was cured and Peter was captured it said 3 weeks ago but it was actually 3 months PLUS 3 weeks ago. He was found in the crate at the start of the season. It has been 3 months since that time.

I don't think so. It was four months from the explosion until Peter was found in the crate. I'm going to look at a few episodes to see. It could be June 2007 now. The evacuation order that Peter picks up says June 14th 2008. Peter looks at it and says "This is next year". If he was talking one calendar year on the nose then that if further proof it is June 2007 in Present day.

"Why do you need an exact date for anyway?"

Just curiosity, really. Why ask why?

Thanks for the help, good people.

I agree with you. I want a timeline.

I think the big thing is, Bob said Adam escaped two weeks ago, but let's assume he really meant three.

Three weeks ago, Nathan was healed.

It has been three months since Nathan was healed and Peter and Adam escaped. So, give or take a couple of days for people saying things generally (ex: two weeks is really two and half etc) Nathan had only a few days to grow that major beard, move into Peter's apartment (who was paying the rent) and develop a drinking problem. Wow, that's some binge Nathan was on, but it does make sense why he seems to have recovered from his alcoholism pretty well, but he is on a mission.

I'd love an official response on this.

But unless we figure that Heidi left nathan while he was on his deathbed, we need a larger chunk of time to make sense of it all: Nathan with beard, drinking, losing family, ect.

Where were Sylar and Matt? I hope we get a bit more flashback in the next episode.

I was wrong about several things. If the countdown in the episode was up until the season 2 premier and Bob was telling the truth about Adam escaping two weeks ago then it has only been two weeks since Nathan was cured, grew a beard, became a drunk, got a restraining order on him, then got his act together and shaved. That is really unbelievable.

Why do you want a timeline? It's pretty clear that Kring and the writers didn't have one.

This question was already answered.

Is each episode really only a day?
I got the impression that they were more like a few days or up to a week ... esp. like with the Bennet plotline - I figured Claire's been in school (or HRG's at the job) at least a couple of weeks? no?. I'd better watch a few of these again.

I was also assuming that 4 Months Ago meant 4 months from wherever we were at the end of the previous episode (2.7), but since this episode takes us right back to the explosion, I guess it could also be 4 months from the season premiere (2.1). In which case it totally doesn't seem like enough time for Nathan's life to go all to hell, plus it wouldn't square with Bob telling Nathan that Adam escaped '2 weeks ago', when the caption specified "3 weeks ago'. Hmmmm ... then again, Bob's 'morally grey' at best, so there's no reason to assume he was trying to give accurate information.

Bob did also mention that the Company had to stop research on their power-dampening vaccine "30 years ago", which seems to coincide with Adam's capture/imprisonment. Not sure what to make of that.

If I had the time I'd try to timeline this, but alas ...

Another thing that was confusing. They show the caption "3 Weeks Ago" and a few things happen and that segment ends with Nathan's mom entering his hospital room to find him cured. Immediately after that we go to "Today" with Maya and Sylar in the car, but right after that we go to Niki leaving the company with her suitcase like she had just been cured or set free with the meds, then they go to "present day" after that with Peter in Montreal and Nathan in the cab. I'm confused about the Niki part being "today" because she is working with Mohinder at this point. Either way, it has only been two weeks since Nathan was cured to Peter being in Montreal in Present Day.

Of course YOU do... you are extremely confused... claiming stuff in the episode happened 7 months ago. Nonsense.



Episode 2-1 happens FOUR MONTHS after Kirby Plaza. Kirby Plaza happened in early November 2006. Episode 2-1 is in early March 2007. "Today" on the show is relatively soon after that.


The only thing that doesn't line up is Bob's claim about Adam escaping two weeks ago along with Nathan's drunk beard arc. (I don't remember what Bob said to Nathan earlier so I am taking your guys word for it).

According to 2-8 Adam escaped 3 weeks ago. Nathan shaved and stopped drinking a few days ago at most. So he grew a beard and was a wino for 2 weeks apparently.



Apparently Niki is going to live out the rest of her days with her son. Bob apparently gave the Claire job only to Mohinder.


3 weeks actually. Nathan was cured '3 weeks ago' according to this episode

Last week Bob said they escaped two weeks ago while he was showing Nathan the video of Peter in captivity. If they cured Nathan that day or a few days after they escaped then it would be just two weeks. Three, if you count a week between episode 2-7 and "present day". That leaves one week for the beard, making a drunken fool of himself, having a restraining order put on him, and one for getting his act together, hanging with Matt, shaving and meeting up with Bob to watch the tape.

You still are a bit confused. The prison escape and the curing of Nathan happen a week apart. That is explicitly stated in the last episode (The escape is 'One Month Ago' and the curing is "Three Weeks Ago).

It has been three weeks since Nathan was cured. So there are a measly two weeks for the beard and drunkeness, maybe two weeks and a couple of days, and 4 days of clean shaven Nathan working with Matt and talking with Bob.

It still isn't enough time really...

And of course the other problem is that Bob supposedly didn't give the correct time of Adam and Peter's escape. But Bob shouldn't be trusted so I don't really care about what he says.

Okay then IF Bob was telling the truth and they escaped two weeks before, then it was just over a week between curing and watching the tape. The 3 weeks ago may be from when he was cured to "present day" which was when Nathan was pulling up in the cab in the rain and a week after Bob and Nathan watched the tape. I wonder why the showed "Today" at the point with Sylar and Maya in the car and "present day" just one scene later.

What I find strange is that Nathan was apparently healed by Adam three months after the explosion, and had already grown a giant mountain man beard and developed a drinking problem severe enough he could need to go into rehab three weeks later when the season started! Anyone else think this may be a bit of a timeline mess-up by the writers?

*sigh* It's not that complicated:

4 Months ago:

* Explosion on top of NY
* Peter took Nathan to hospital,
* Peter got captured.
* Angela told Heidi about how the Petrelli boys are all crazy. This is the point where Heidi considered her options. I assume she started to move out and prepared a divorce paper at this stage (even though she probably didn't tell Nathan because he's still in the hospital).

1 month ago: (or 3 weeks ago depending on how accurate Bob's time estimate was)

* Peter and Adam escaped from the company.
* Peter and Adam healed Nathan in the hospital.
* Peter encountered Elle/Haitian.
* Peter got packed into the container
* Nathan regained his consciousness
* Nathan got served with a divorced paper by Heidi
* Nathan starts becoming drunk/grow beard. In other words, he had at least 3 weeks to grow beard/turned to alcohol. Not too much of a stretch, I know some men who have grown beard in 2 weeks.

Episode 1: (aka 1 month or 3 weeks after Peter escaped)

* Nathan continues to booze his day/night to dull the emotional pain
* Peter finds himself in Ireland still trapped in the container.

Episode 4: (possibly a few days/weeks after episode 1)

* Nathan sobers up and teams up with Matt



When a person starts drinking, there's a likelihood that they become addicted to alcohol. However, this is not always the case. Just because Nathan was drinking everyday, it doesn't mean that he's an alcoholic. Especially not when he managed to sober himself up to bail out his mother from jail. It seems to me he was still in complete control of his life...except when he chose not to. Angela was most likely just overstating the need for Nathan to go to rehab just to be sure. But it doesn't mean that he actually needs that rehab.

No. Bob spoke imprecisely, or he lied, or the writers screwed up. I'm going to trust an explicit title from the show over a remark from sneaky Bob.

I mean think about it. Bob's conversation with Nathan was last episode. You're telling me a WHOLE WEEK has passed since Maury was knocked out? No, that would be silly. At most its like the day after Maury's attack.



The healing clearly is listed as happening 3 weeks ago, as "3 weeks ago" flashes on the screen before it happens. The escape is clearly listed as happening one month ago.

I'm going with truthful two week Bob and a week passing after Maury was knocked out. After Maury passes out we still have Niki getting the virus, them discovering Mohinder can't cure her and Nathan finding out where to go in in Ireland, buying his tickets. It could be more than a day for sure. Either way, we all agree that Nathan has had some major ups and downs in 3 weeks. I find it hard to believe that Nathan didn't go to his wife and fly around the living room or something. The restraining order didn't keep him from going to the school. He had told her he could fly while in the hospital. We were made to believe that Nathan had this long downward spiral and it was only a week and a half tops. It's like I drank for a week straight because I thought my brother was dead and I'm over it and haven't touched a drop for another week. Nobody will forgive him for this bad week after a life of being the "good" Petrelli son?

"It's like I drank for a week straight because I thought my brother was dead and I'm over it and haven't touched a drop for another week. Nobody will forgive him for this bad week after a life of being the "good" Petrelli son?"

Unless he had a previous drinking problem way before then, and it hasn't been mentioned until now. It's not like it would be out of left-field or anything.

As someone with some experience with ocean containers, two weeks is actually a very reasonable time frame for Peter to be inside. Ocean vessels aren't like Airplanes, they take a while to get from point A to point B. If anything, two weeks is pretty quick to get from the first Ocean Port to the next.

We also don't know what went on between Nathan and Wifey during the other couple months - he was lying in the bed scarred, he probably had a pretty bad temper, and a resourceful/manipulative gent like Nathan could well have suborned a nurse or doctor into providing him with a lovely bottle.
Plus, Mama Petrelli had a little "chat" with Wifey and seemed to be Eden-ing her into hiding Nathan's sickness. It is entirely conceivable that that was not the only conversation the two of them had, and in order to further her own ends (I do NOT believe Angela has gone willingly into "Corrections", I think she is still up to old tricks) she convinced Wifey to leave Nathan, etc.

She also had her hands on Nathan in one of this season's episodes and told him that just because he shaved doesn't make him clean and sober and to get in a program. She could have Eden'd him into believing he was a drunk. The fast beard growth could be a result of the Adam blood. I can live with that.

Well that's good, because according to the timeline Peter had 3 weeks to get there.