Whenever we see the radiation power that Ted had, people always say, "Should he have died?" No! In one of the GN's, don't remember which one, Ted used his power on a bunch of OWI people. Ted didn't die because he didn't explode, he emitted an explosion. We also saw this in "Company Man". So, even if Peter never met Claire, he would have survived that explosion over New York because he emitted an explosion. Please, people, get it right! I'm tired of seeing topics were people think Peter exploded into a million bits, regenerated, and flew and caught Nathan.

Because of Peter's abilities we all know that he didn't explode into a million bits, and while technically a writing/directing error, his clothes still being intact made this evident.

Regardless, it was Mama Petrelli who stated that it was because Peter had Claire's ability that he was able to survive the nuclear explosion suggesting that Ted would not have

I doubts she is an expert at someone else ability.

exactly, she doesn't really know how ted's power works, how the explosion will happen

I seriously doubt Ted would have died from "exploding". Peter having Claire's abiltiy was more like a backup to ensuring his survival. Ted emmits radiation but I doubt that he would literally explode into a million little peices. I think he just lets off something that is very much gives the impression of an explosion but it doesn't rip the body apart.

and what makes you an expert? Anyway, Mrs. Petrelli was aware of how the explosion was going to happen and had plans for the whole thing, though it has yet to be revealed I think its safe to say that she had more info on the matter than you do






It seemed to me that the Ted character was on a self destructive course and that even he knew that he wasn't coming back from that. Anyway, its not that I want to argue its just that you guys aren't really giving me any kind of evidence to back up your claims. The character is dead anyway so why does it matter?

Yes the explosion was always in the cards but Peter meeting Claire was not. If the whole STCSTW thing had not come into play Peter would never have met Claire. As we saw in 5YG he didnt die from exploding anyway. I agree that Ted was on a self destructive path that would have more likely ended with a bullet to to brain than him dying from "exploding".

We're not arguing, we're discussing.

Um, no because he saved Claire and gained her ability.

In the 5YG universe Peter had never met Claire and he never went to her school to save her. Which is how Sylar got her ability and was able to survive Hiro stabbing him.

No, in the 5 Years Gone episode he did save her because she was alive and living in the White House where Sylar disguised as President Nathan killed her.

He had met claire in 5YG, because they [F!Hiro and Ando] used it as leverage to get Noah Bennet to help them find Peter.

You failed at watching Heroes and got a D- on using the internet...

The main difference in the Five Years Gone episode is that Hiro Never stabbed Sylar to take him out of being a threat in the battle at Kirby Plaza and Sylar at some poin killed/replace Nathan... Sylar KILLS CLAIRE IN THE EPISODE FIVE YEARS GONE SAYINg "I've waited a long time for this..."

You need to rewatch that episode if you're gonna quote it as your defense... Sorry to be so rude to you but that is a huge error on your part...

Yea, remember how Hiro had his "web of time" and used it to figure out that in order to stop Sylar from being able to heal his chest wound (which ironicly happened regardless) they had to save the cheerleader. The only reason to save claire was to stop Sylar from getting her power, not to keep peter alive. I always figured that without the healing ability he would have been pretty banged up, but if ted can survive emitting a bunch of radiation without any ill effects, why would emitting a nuke sized ammount kill peter?

If Sylar "was" the bomb, then how in GN Walls did Peter mimic "induced radioactivity"?

Then you were not paying attention to what FutureHiro said

FutureHiro said to PresentHiro and Ando that he stabbed Sylar but he regenerated and that's when he knew he would have to have Claire saved. Peter was the bomb in either senario but FutureHiro didnt know that. He thought Sylar was the cause of the explosion and he stabbed him with the specific intent to stop him from taking out a big chunk of Manhattan.

FutureHiro going back in time to talk to Peter on the subway made it so that Claire survived whenever her encounter with Sylar would have been(if not on the same Homecoming night) and then Bennet took Claire into hiding, hence Syalr's "I've been waiting a long time for this". Bennet moved her from place to place until finally back to Texas. Matt read Bennet;s mind and that how he found out where Claire was.

Wow, when was Claire living in the white house? I mean when was Claire seen in the white house?

I'm actually wondering that myself. Claire never lived in the White House. When Sylar killed Claire they were in the Petrelli mansion in NY.

Yes, Future Hiro told Peter to save the cheerleader. Then Peter met Claire whilst saving her. You've just argued against your own original point.

F!Hiro wasn't in his original timeline in 5YG, it was an altered timeline. The future he was from - as you said - he had stabbed Sylar, but Sylar regenerated. In the future he was in at the time Claire was alive (due to meeting Peter), so Sylar wouldn't have regenerative abilities from Claire.

This raises worrying implications for Caitlin (if you like the character), since when Peter returns home, it's possible he could do something that entirely changes the future timeline. What I don't know is what would happen to Caitlin if he does. It's mind-bending that one.

Ted wouldn't have died from the explosion either as some of you already stated.
Radiation Emission goes out of the body in a big wave like the explosion Peter occured, however it destroys everything around the host, not the host itself.

That means that Peter wouldn't die from it either no matter if he had Claires ability or not.
Angelas comment was because she had a other view on Teds power and didn't exactly knew how it works that's all.
It was more her assumption that Claires ability will help peter survive so she was thankful.

I think that Peter emitted the power almost like the way the DBZ fighters emit their chakra. He just couldn't hold it in - imagine if Goku couldn't hold his power - goodbye world

None of us knows what happens when Ted completely loses control of his power. None of us knows what would happen if Sylar or PEter completely lost control of Ted's power. Yes, emitting large amounts of radiation doesn't hurt you, but if you're trying to hold it in, and it forces its way out? That could be YOU exploding trying to hold it in...

None of us, except maybe Mama Petrelli, who has been planning this for years. Of course... she also knew that Peter met Claire, so the idea of her thinking Peter would die is silly, so obviously, she was just lying like she usually does.

But it's entirely possible that Ted's power could be deadly to the host.

Yeah. Goku. Uh-huh

Wow, you made my argument for me... Please rewatch that episode...

The real point is- no one knows what happens really now- while i think the idea that Peter blew up into a million pieces and regenerated in a second is ridiculous - but it is also ridiculous to think that emitting huge amounts of physically damaging energy (not just radiation ya know) wouldn't effect the source at all.

I believe he is unaffected by radiation- but at that massive build up- its obviously painful for him. They said he builds up like an overload, which is why he controls his abilities by releasing it in small controlled explosions. The size of the explosion, heck just the debris from the destruction could end up killing Peter if he didn't have Claire's power.

So no- I don't think it is safe to say Ted causes him to blow up - but it's certainly reasonable to say it can be deadly to the person using the power.

But why do people assume the writers don't do their job? Some of these writers are very good, very skilled, and despite what some people assume, think things through. They might not give you a super detailed "this is how stuff works" guide to the world of Heroes, but people here seem to assume things are how they think they are and say the writers are wrong. Give them some credit eh? This isn't a Fan Fiction written by a 12 year old.

I would venture to guess that the heat emitted refectively from the surrounding environment during the blast would kill him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions

Then again, I'm not a physicist.

Peter, having become unstable with the absorption of so many additional powers at once (Molly, Micah, Niki, Candice and DL) was unable to control Ted's power.

Now, Ted was never concerned about dying whenever he exploded because he was protected from his own power. So, it stands to reason that the same would be true for Peter. [NOTE: Even as Nathan is flying Peter away, he, unlike Peter, is being consumed by the radiation. Peter remains unscathed.]

Therefore, Peter never needed Claire's power to protect him from Ted's power! And, it was the absorption of so many powers over a short period of time that resulted in the instability that caused Peter to explode (and not the inherent characteristic of Ted's power).

BONUS: Everyone seems to have overlooked the fact that Candice, although unnoticed, necessarily came into close enough proximity to Peter while retrieving Sylar (dragging him down the manhole) to have given her power to Peter as well!

Creator

There's still a lack of evidence to prove any of this. It was never disclosed to us on the show that Ted would have survived had he allowed himself to go nuclear and only the speculation that Peter needed Claire's ability to survive the explosion. At this point its kind of moot, unless the writers want to give us an actual confirmation on this (perhaps by introducing a second character with nuclear abilities since they aren't afraid to re-use powers this season)


As for Peter absorbing Candice's powers? I think it would be kind of cheap to say that she was there at the time that Peter was in Kirby Plaza. Sylar was more likely dragged away when no one was looking which would've been after Nathan flew Peter away.

That happened in a GN... The Company agents trapped him in concrete, and he exploded to blast off his confinement and took out all the agents "somewhere in the Nevada Desert"... He was shown to be perfectly fine, without a scratch, in the later events in the GN...

fARSIGHT,

Thank you.

Spyder,

Not only do I think she was there, I think that it was her presence that proved the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back". For Peter was waxin' Sylar's *** and was still stable while doing so. Shortly thereafter, and I believe coincidentally with the arrival of Candice, Peter became unstable.

I attribute this instability to his having absorbed yet another power...Candice's. Which, if you think about it, makes sense. All the characters except Candice were present at the onset of the conflict between Sylar and Peter. Yet it wasn't until after Sylar's beat down that Peter went 'ballistic'. Candice's presence would make for a suitable and logical explanation for this.

BTW, Spyder, logic is never a "cheap shot".

Creator

Firstly, thank you for checking the scientific side of what happend to Peter but surely science fact goes out the window when talking about a show which is totally based on people with "science ficton" abilities in it. I get it that people want to try and explain things logically but the reason I love the show so much is that its illogical things happening in a normal, recognisable enviroment.

The episode was entitled, "How to Stop an Exploding Man," not radiating man. I think the writers were going to end this first chapter with the death of Peter by having him actually explode beyond regeneration. The fans seems to have dictated otherwise. So I think his survival was a mere technicality, perhaps hinted at the beginning of this ep when he pushed Nathan away -- he had regained mastery of his ability to fly and therefore could control himself from exploding to merely radiating.

Agent42,

Nathan acted like a booster rocket for Peter. After Nathan fell away, Peter continued, propelled by Nathan's assisting flight, until he exploded. It was then that he regain control of his powers (including the power of flight) and rescued Nathan. Peter was never to die by blowing up. The title of this episode was intended to suggest that it was imminently necessary to stop the exploding man (one of two possibilities) from exploding and killing .07% of Earth's population. That's the real problem and concern here. Peter's death was not in question.

Creator

The smaller explosions that Ted hed generated were far from a nuclear megaton explosion, big difference.

That's still only speculation. And I never said logic was a "cheap shot", please don't put words in my mouth. Unless another flashback is shown with Candice cowering behind the bushes, its a cheap shot to say it happened and not confirming it. Speculation is only just that unless its actually revealed on the show.

Spyder,

The process of discovery, of reasoning and rational inquiry are often speculative at first. And, I think I preferenced my supposition with "I believe" not "I know".

Creator

My apologies, I assumed you were in support of whoever started this thread whose title is specific in suggesting that this is fact and not speculation. I didn't mean you specifically. All I'm saying is that we were given nothing to confirm any of this.

Surely not. Yes, physical laws may be bent in some few cases where powers are involved, but mainly in the capability of the individuals to cause the effects, not the effects themselves (with the possible exception of time travel). The whole premise of the show is that these powers are scientifically explainable: one of the main characters is a geneticist. These powers are not magic. If the laws of physics themselves are mutable, there is no point in even attempting to speculate anything, as there would be no consistency to hold things together.

If this is true, in episode 14 giant technicolor bunnies will suddenly materialize out of nothing, bite the heads and big toes off of all life forms (including those that have neither heads nor toes), and subsequently explode the universe with their shrill laughter. They will then walk on their ears before complaining.

If that's the show you want to watch, you're barking up the wrong tree.