Just a thought.

Are Peter's powers inhibited by the Haitian's like everyone else's?

Does the Haitian have to switch his dampening field on (I'm thinking yes) or is it a constant?

Based on the GN series "It Takes A Village," the Haitian's ability to inhibit other people's powers seems to be constant, and is limited only by proximity. By "5 Years Gone," he could dampen the abilities of all specials within an entire floor, assuming that what Matt said was true. He was concentrating on Hiro at the time and it looked like he didn't need to be near the elevators to stop Peter and Hiro.

Except that when he and Eden apprehended Sylar in the first series after "Homecoming" Eden's powers of persuasion worked on Sylar. So I thought he could "switch off" his dampening field when he wanted.

He must be able to, considering Elle was still able to zap Peter while the Haitian was there.

So, if the Haitian's powers aren't "switched on" when he's around Peter one time, maybe Peter can absorb his abilities?

Peter probably already has his power. He just has not realised it yet. Peter tends to be a bit slow sometimes...

I think The Haitian negates Peter's absorption.

The way I saw it was Peter automatically absorbed the power that he was around. Sometimes using it automatically, just because it is being used around him. Such as...

Hiro stopping time on the subway and everyone around Peter gets frozen in time, but Peter doesn't. This is because Peter had absorbed the ability and instinctively used it.

Peter comes across Claude on the streets of New York and can see him. This surprises Claude because he believes he is invisible. Then we see a seen of the two of them scuffling, but the people around them don't see anything, just feel the impacts. Peter had automically absorbed the ability and used it on instinct.

This is how he was able to see and speak to Hiro on the subway and see Claude (for this one I guess invisible people can see other invisible people, maybe they are just visible on a certain spectrum of light and can only be seen from that same spectrum, I don't know).

As for the Haitian, I think he can concentrate his power into a much narrower scope than say Maya can (so far). I think in the beginning (graphic novel) he wasn't in control and it just emanated from him. As he has grown and gotten used to the power I believe he can use it selectively. Which would explain how Eden was able to use her power when Sylar wasn't, and how Elle was able to shock Peter but he couldn't move the glass of water. I think if the Haitian wants to he can blanket an entire area, but I think he can also zero in on an individual if he wishes. He can now, find specific memories, why couldn't he target specific individuals, or powers for that matter?

So I think Peter probably has absorbed the ability but just doesn't realize it. But then that doesn't explain something. If Peter has absorbed the Haitian's ability, wouldn't he be immune to it's affects, similar to the way time can't be stopped for him, and people can't be unseen by him by turning invisible?

That's my thinking as well. I am unsure though. Just to add another example of the haitian allowing powers, he was blocking present Hiro's abilities in 5YG while Matt used his ability to read Hiro's mind.

I at least hope so, there has to be some limits to Peter.

I completely forgot about that one, thanks. Although I wonder if anything from FYG can be considered canon. I believe it was the first "cautionery tale", basically saying what could happen if... I am not sure the powers demonstrated in that episode are viable sources or information for how powers are working in the current time line. I can't imagine why they would work different, but something tells me that they could.
However, that example does back up my theory quite well, so who am I to argue.

- you are right about Claude

- you are wrong about about Hiro cause it was hiro that left Peter unfrozen so he can speak to him.
Remember that it was the future hiro that had much more control over his power than the present hiro had at that time.

- you are right about the haitian been able to select who to block and who not to.
However, if he already had blocked Peters powers, Peter probably couldn't absorb the Haitians ability yet.

- you are probably right about Mayas ability. I also think that after she has more control of her power, she might be able to focus on one or more persons in a more selective manner so she won't automatically affect everyone around. I hope we will get to see that from her though.

I really don't think it will work like this, but I do have a theory on how it could be done.
If The Haitian never unblocks Peter's ability when he's in range, Peter will never absorb the Haitian's ability and would never be immune to it's effects. Since the Haitian is working for F!Peter's opposition, I'd say he probably just never had the chance to Absorb it.

In the current timeline he hasn't had chance to contract the ability either, and still isn't immune to it's effects. If being immune to the Haitian's ability were the case, it would only be a one time deal for the Haitian to unblock Peter. There would be no going back then, which would be fine if we assume the Haitian's default for that ability is always on. If it was always off, and on only when he allows it, he'd have to be concentrating at all times.

I don't think they'll allow Peter to absorb his ability in all honesty, at least that way he will have limits. They're always looking for a way to limit Peter, like taking an entire season to learn what his abilities are and how to begin to use them, then forgetting it all again. The Haitian blocking powers is ideal.

Also, if they did allow him to steal the ability, it raises way too many questions about the ins and outs of the ability of both the Haitian and Peter. Like I said with the Haitians ability, does he have to concentrate to allow the use of abilities, or concentrate to block them.. and if there were two people with that ability, and neither was immune to the others effects, who would win? The most experienced? The one who concentrated to up their range? Would they just cancel each other out? Would the haitian still be able to delete memories in that persons presence? If Peter absorbs that ability, does it act all the time for him or just when he chooses to use it? These are some of the things that still haven't been explored so far, and I sometimes wonder if they ever will.

If it was Hiro that left Peter unfrozen then he would have to have done it from the past or at least while he was still in the time stream. Everyone around Peter froze and he didn't, then Hiro showed up. With that fact together with the way things worked with Claude, I don't think it's out of the questions for Peter to be the one responsible for him not getting frozen in time. Future Hiro may have known enough about Peter at that time to know that Peter wouldn't get frozen because of his ability.



They have already stated in the show that Peter is the most Powerful of them all, so yes they will obviously make controlling/remember/(whatever else) his powers an issue for him. Otherwise where is the drama and conflict of the characters journey. I don't however think that they will not allow Peter to absorb the Haitian's ability simply because they need to limit the character. I think that Peter is getting know how to reverse the effects of the Haitian's memory wipe, and he very well could learn how to use Maury/Matt's ability to control the Haitian's mind and block his ability to block abilities. If Peter got the drop on the Haitian, I think this could be accomplished as I don't believe that the Haitian is always just blocking powers by default. I think it's something he has to think about to perform. This could explain why we don't hear him talk too much. Maybe he is concentrating on blocking the abilities of others. I think if he didn't think about it, the ability wouldn't be blocked in others.

How come the Haitian doesn't have a name?

lol

Seriously! Shouldn't someone have asked by now? Or at least have given him a nickname?

What does Mr Bennet call him for short when they're out on missions? "Hait?" "Oi, you!"?

On the thing with Hiro in the subway: It definitely was not Hiro who left Peter unfrozen. He came to Peter specifically because he knew he was the only one he could single out easily and with a low probability of creating a rift. Peter was weaker than all the others at that point, so powerwise it would have made more sense to go to someone else.

About Peter: I like him powerful, but I hope they will not let him have the Haitians ability. If he did none of the heros would stand a chance against him anymore. The Haitian probably always has his ability on around him so he cannot absorb it.

He is the most powerful of them all because he has lots of abilities, not because he can use the abilities better than the people he got them from.

About the haitian's blocking abilities, I disagree with you, because of the GN, mostly. He didn't have to think about blocking his father's ability, in fact he couldn't stop himself. It just happened. Also, when Matt was trying to read his mind from his car at Primatech paper he couldn't, but that could have been because they knew he was there.

Interestingly, Matt plucked out the word Sylar from the Haitian's mind that time in the Primatech carpark (accompanied by a nosebleed and much gurning). Either the Haitian had his ability turned down low or he's not as infallible as we've been lead to believe ...

I never said Peter could use his acquired abilities better than those he acquires them from. ? Where did that come from? I would argue that just having the abilities doesn't make one the most powerful. What good are a bunch of powers if they can't be used properly? I would say that they believe he is the most powerful becuase of the cache of powers he has collected as well as his inability to be killed. If you think about it, he is sort of like a Superman. He just doesn't have the control that everyone associates with the likes of Superman.

As for the Haitian and the GN. My point was in the GN he was just developing his ability so probably didn't have a great deal of control over it. Similar to Maya and killing a whole town full of people. The Haitian wiped the minds of a whole town full of poeple. Now Maya is restricting the range of her ability and so is the Haitian. I believe the Haitian did know Matt was there and that's why he could read minds. I think it was even touch on in the show, when someone made a sarcastic comment to Matt about how nobody would notice the same car with a man in it sitting outside of a building for a week or so. How could the Haitian have not been aware of Matt's presence?

Because it makes what they call him sound like a super hero name.

Super Haitian, or The Incredible Haitian maybe. But just the Haitian makes it sound as though no one can be bothered to find out his name!

My take is that the Haitian's ability is like a field that surrounds him to a distance by default.
He has learned over the years to control his powers better, even to the point of being able to "withdraw" the effect from certain people (so that Elle, Eden and Matt could use their powers near him).
His powers have progressed to the point where HRG could tell the man in the Ukraine "our friend (the Haitian) has learned a new trick" (his ability to selectively pull memories).

On to Peter, who picks up the powers of anyone he is proximity to.
It is possible that he just doesn't realize yet that he has this power, like he didn't know about his telekinesis until Claude tried to hit him.
Also, while the Haitian's ability seems to be on by default, Peter's powers seem to work randomly, otherwise he would have been radioactive, invisible and constantly flying all the time.
Something in his ability allows his body to switch these powers on and off, the way the other heroes had to learn how to do.

Two side notes:
1. Memories, all thought for that matter, are electrical impulses fired along nueral pathways. The more you think about something, the stronger that pathway, which is why repitition makes remembering something easier.
It seems to me that the Haitian's power must be to somehow inhibit or block these pathways, perhaps even to damage them on a molecular level. Otherwise, Peter would not have been able to "heal" his way back to remembering what the Haitian took.

2. Since Peter and Claire have regenerative abilities, why do they not have continually long hair and finger/toe nails?
It seems that as soon as they were cut, they would grow back in faster. (I realize that the ends of hair are dead, as with nails, but parts of them are growing, soooo..)

Sorry about the most powerful thing, that was a crossed wire because I misread something you said, that seemed to relate to something else I was saying.


You're entitled to your opinion, I'm not trying to argue against it, I just don't see the logic between the Haitian starting off not being able to contain his supression ability to somehow having to will himself to use it later on in life. It just seems more reasonable to me that it's always on unless he stops it.


I didn't say they weren't aware of his presence. In fact I mentioned how they were aware of his presence, and I had that sarcastic comment in mind when I was typing it out.

It's that "could've". I knew it would be problematic when I typed it! I said 'but that could have been because they knew he was there' and not 'but that's because they could've known he was there'.

I think the Haitian's powers are just limited to mental abilities, like telekeneisis, and mind reading type stuff.

Nathan still flew with the Haitian nearby in an episode in season 1. I think Claire would still be able to regenerate if he were in her presence. Just a thought.

Would you classify Peter's ability as mental or physical?

No need to apologize. I was just confused for a second cause I didn't remember saying anything like that.




I am entitled to my opinion, as you are yours. I am curious why you don't see the logic in someone not being able to control/contain their ability as it begins to manifest, but being able to better control it as time goes on and they have more experience with it.

I don't believe that his supression ability needed to be contained in the beginning, so much as be controlled. I think we have seen in several instances, of these powers being used for the first time as an involuntary reaction to something else happening. Now with a power like the Haitian's, mental based, I would think that controlling something you can't even see would be difficult for a first time user. Especially when said user is unaware of their even having the ability. Now once the ability is known about and understood, it would seem to me that a bit of control could be employed and use the power differently than when it's just used as an involuntary reaction. Furthermore, I am not of the school of thought that the Haitian's power is a buffer zone that constantly surrounds him. I think he emanates his ability at will. With the exception of the emotionally overloaded reactions in his childhood, I would say the Haitian has a pretty good handle on his ability. He can selectively suppress the powers of some while leaving others in the same area unaffected. He can now also use his "new" trick of pin pointing specific memories. It is completley logical that as time has gone on he has learned to impose his will on his ability and have it be under his control, rather than in control of him. Not to mention he was found by the company and now works for the company, so I bet they trained him how to use his power.

I think that the Haitian suppresses *voluntary* powers, probably using the same effect that suppresses memories.
Evidence that he can suppress physical powers: Bob was not concerned about Peter's strength with the Haitian there.
Evidence that he can't suppress involuntary powers: He didn't neutralize Ted at the Bennet house.

Since Peter's ability seems to happen consistently, I think it's automatic/involuntary. Usually new voluntary powers happen accidentally, but sporadically, like Matt's mind-reading. If so, then he should automatically absorb the Haitian's power, which the Haitian can't inhibit. Peter often doesn't realize he has powers. Now that his memory's back, we'll see if he tries it.

Oh, and if this analysis is correct, then the Haitian's power is voluntary, since Peter didn't neutralize Elle.

The real answer (which may have already been mentioned):

Peter can't absorb The Haitian Sensation's Power because THE WRITERS WON'T LET HIM. Peter is already too ridiculous.

There is no actual rule that The Haitian only blocks mental powers - that's just a hypothesis. The Haitian blocks whatever the writers want him to block, and even with things that we have seen The Haitian can block, occasionally a powerful hero will bypass his block (or an average hero can bypass his block with great effort, like Matt).

Those are the The Haitian Sensation Guidelines.