Why was the Haitian alone in Haiti? How did he get the plague?

Why would Bob refer to the Haitian as an "Assignment" to Suresh, one would think that the Haitian was more of a friend and more important to the company/Bob than that. (unless the Haitian ran after letting Peter go, but why is it impossible for the Haitian to lose someone?)

How does the company keep finding "Assignments for Suresh"? The tracking system is down and Molly wasn't in the company hands at the moment.

Why Peter didn't say, "I remember, I remember everything, oh **bleep** Kaitlyn." <Timetravel>

Sylar's survival...

Yeah, I never thought about this until you brought it up. Maybe they were files they already had. <shrug>



Seriously. It may be brought up in the next episode, but it isn't like Peter to leave someone stranded like that.

Why are Claire and HRG back to their old ways? I thought the point of their story last season was to clear the air between them. Now, they argue and fight, one of them storms out of the room before either one can explain what is going on in their lives!

Why did Bob really want to inject Monica? That whole bit was random as hell.

Oh and A BIG to how Sylar keeps surving/winding up on roads

Peter hadn't forgot about Caitlyn, so why would he comment about her when did get his memory back? If you knew nothing about who you were, and then you suddenly remembered your whole life and everything that has happened to you (which is a lot for Peter), wouldn't you be taking a few minutes to take it all in? Not just go ok, yeah, I remember who I am, but none of that matters, I need to save Caitlyn! Nathan is far more important to him then Caitlyn ever will be, and he knows that Nathan is killed by the virus, so Peter has his priorities. He hasn't forgotten about Caitlyn, but he does have a lot more to worry about then just her, he has to save the world (and his brother)!

I hate bringing up time travel again but now that Peter has left Caitlyn a year in the future in a timeline where everyone gets the virus, if he stops the virus from happening, where the heck is he going to find her? Also, did you notice that he makes the Hiro face when he attempts to time travel back to her?

True true, but it just seems like poof future, grab, poof back while saving the present isn't as simple. Also depending on how time really flows, you could be destroying the future she's in (and thus her) by saving the present first.

Were we posting the same thought at the same time? I'm two minutes faster. Great minds...

Does anyone else still think that somehow, the virus that they are playing with in might not be what kills the world? I still find Sylar/Maya's part in this season pointless and annoying should it not play some kinda part in the events to come. (Kinda like the whole mask of sylars not the bomb, peter is the bomb of last season.)

Maybe just wishful thinking..

I started a Caitlin lost in time thread. I like that Sylar/Maya idea. He could be Nuclear Maya powered. A little bit Ted and little bit Maya. He could explode and spread her black oily eyeballs all over the place.

They had new assignments before the tracking systems, they'll have them after they're gone, too. Bob told Mohinder they found Claire through the newspaper clipping. They probably look through news media all over the world, looking for key words and phrases.

Maya wouldn't be in the show, unless she was leading toward something big. My guess is that she's either the plague, or the cure. Maybe both.

I don't think the future Peter visisted exists anymore ... he's already on the path to saving the world from the virus. That future is now already an alternate timeline that will not come to pass. Caitlyn is screwed. As far as we know, Hiro or Peter have never visited an alternate timeline. They have both gone to the actual future and have come back. With their knowledge of that future and their intentions and ability to change it, those future's would disappear instantly if they are able to change the outcome and intend to.

What do you guys think? I hope I made myself somewhat clear.

except that the people in the future call it the "shanti" virus.

No, it doesn't exist. Yet. That exact future may not ever exist again. It would be too coincedental for every little thing to happen exactly the same way, all over the world, for an entire year. It will be different. However, I see no reason to believe that when one year passes, Caitlin won't be there. Only the circumstances should change, unless someone goes further back in time, to prevent Peter from taking her.

I don't remember the exact date, or how long he was there, but for the sake of argument, we'll say it was March 03 2007, and he stayed one day.

So, on 3/3/07 Peter took Caitlin to the future. On 3/3/08 Peter and Caitlin show up in New York. On 3/4/08 he left alone. On 3/4/07, Peter arrived back in Montreal.

No matter what happens in the next year (even if Peter dies), on 3/3/08, Peter and Caitlin should still show up in New York.

Right?

I don't know. She shows up with Peter in a timeline with the virus. At the point they left to go there the timeline was on that course. If Peter fixes the future they will get to a place without the virus and he won't know to go home and stop the virus. Paradox. I think if it's Back to the Future time travel the future will morph into a different one while she's there alone and since she never lived for the past year what the heck would be going on in her mind. The way this show does time travel will go like this. Peter gets back an in one week's time stops the virus. Caitlin will have lived one week in the future and then it will suddenly change.

man, I think my brain just exploded.

Ok, the way I figure it is either 1. Peter killed her the second he left her there, as by going anywhere in the "past", he is slightly altering it, causing it to splinter off of the main timeline, and become an alternate reality that no one (this far) can reach.
or 2. Peter will be able to get back to her as long as he makes the attempt before the date that they arrived, and all he needs to to do is gain more control of his powers.

the main thing I wanted to see (and better next episode if Mr. Kring knows what's good for him) is some information on Sylar. We have always known little about him, but i think we deserve some information.

Or next march Peter and Caitlin will show up in New York and there will be no virus, and they won't get separated?

But he won't know that he needs to get back and stop the virus. They will both go back and tell Adam the future was just fine. Then the virus WILL happen. He will have created an endless time loop.

It will have already been stopped.

Either two things will happen (in this post anyway).

One: The spread of the virus is stopped and she doesn't exist anymore.
Two: There are two time lines, one with the virus and one without.

Caitlin and Peter arrived in future with the virus. That still happened in the present Peter is in because she isn't there anymore. Say they stop the virus. Where to Peter and Caitlin end up now? If they end up in a virus free world then when he gets back to Adam's place and he says "let's save the world", he'll say "I was just in the future and it looked okay to me." If they arrive and there is still a virus then here comes another multiple timeline scenario.

Well, lets use Hiro's jump to 5 years into the future as a basis for time travel events on the show. It is stated in 5YG that because Hiro has now come into the future, he is no longer in the past, and thus not able to stab Sylar and help prevent the bomb. So by that logic, when a person travels into the future, it is a future that would exist if that person suddenly dissappeared from the present. So this virus ravaged future occurs if Peter was to dissappear from the present, and by going back to the present, the future is already changed, though in what way we don't know.

What we are all forgetting:

Rifts.

Remember Hiro was kicked out of the past?

Maybe if they fix the event and the future changes she'll get "kicked out of the future" in order to prevent any sort of time discrepancy?

An off the wall idea----

Maybe Peter goes into the future to rescue Catlin who has been infected with the virus.
Peter brings her back and she becomes patient zero for the infection.

D*** time travel , it only creates paradoxes!

I think she now just lives in a parallel universe.

What Kaito's and Angela powers are... they've let us wonder for long enough!

Also, why what they said at the end of Out of Time didn't match the same scene at the beginning of Four Months Later...

Adam: Peter, what the hell was that?
Peter: Do you know me?
Adam: (OOT) Course I know you, it's me... Adam? Don't you remember? You and I are going to change history.

Wheres in FMA it was;

Adam: (FMA) Course I know you. Peter, its me... Adam? Don't you remember? Together we're going to change history...
Peter: I'm sorry, I don't?
Adam: So the Haitian's taken liberties with your mind...

Me: And the dialogue

It must be an alternate timeline.

I just attempted to re-edit "Four Months Ago" as the real season premiere. I put the Mohinder opening from this season's premiere at the start of "Four Months Ago" and start with the Nathan dropping Peter. Then I play it straight through to the Haitian whiping Peter's Memory and handcuffing him. I removed all the subititles about how many weeks or months ago it was and all the "present day" scenes. Then I attached this seasons premiere "Four Months Later" to it and made it one long episode. It now looks like Peter was cell mates with this mystery man who says he's 400 years old and can't be killed. When Hiro drops from the sky in 1641 we find out that the guy is Kensei. My version is better than their version. However, what sticks out like a sore thumb is no explaination of what happened to Matt. The lack of a Sylar explaination makes sense because he isn't shown yet in those episodes. But since it showed DL recover, it just looks like big continuity error because he is suddenly well. When it catches up to episode 2-7 I have to add Peter remembering Nathan to the end, and let's go save the world and the to be continued part. It is a masterpiece except for Matt. I hope whenever they do the Matt flashback (if the do). It will fit in my new premiere perfectly. Otherwise, I'm screwed.

only if the timeline is fixed and peter is unable to change the future.

however, heroes has already ruined its time theory, so there's no point in trying to work it out as it is an impossibility.

ah, but using that logic, hiro would never have been able to meet fhiro in the 5YG future.

Re: everyone in the future calling the virus the Shanti Virus if Sylar and/or Maya were the real culprits.

Everyone in the 5YG future thought Sylar had exploded when it was in fact Peter. All it apparently takes is one lie from a politocian and the world will believe anything!

Surely the fact that Maya is going to New York is not a coincidence to the devastation seen there?

Well, I was hoping we'd find out how Noah got the first painting out of the series of eight and why he felt it was so important to find them...

That's a good point there... why would they give him Kaito's painting?

What also makes little sense is why what happened to Sylar was not explained in Four Months Ago yet they decided to put it in the promo?

They pretty much explained what happened to Sylar in episode three of this season. Candice pulled him off of Kirby Plaza and she was taking care of him up to that point.

What more is there to explain?!

Maybe the painting of Kaito is the only one, of the eight, that Isaac painted while he was with Bennet.

Lol, no what I meant was, why did they include even include that in the promo when Sylar didn't appear in the episode? And even so... that still hasn't explained anything? Where did he get the 8 or so surgeries done? And by who? How did he get to Mexico?

Heck, I'd still like to know how Sylar got away from Matt and Audrey, I'd like to know how he hides, I'd like to know how the Company kept his powers from him while Bennet had him, how he faked his death, and how he regained consciousness, and why he had is powers back, when Eden came.

Wasn't that telekenisis to lift himself? He used it when he offed the lady with super hearing.

I'm not going to get into speculation about his situation when the company had him, but they did confirm in this episode 2.8 that the Haitian does block powers. So as long as the Haitian was around his powers were blocked. (personally I think they pulled that out of their *ss).

How he faked his death? Well don't some people have the ability to slow their heartbeat down to the point they think they are dead?

He had his powers when Eden came because the Haitian was not present. He realized he could use them when he saw she was using hers.

I dunno if it has already been mentioned in here or in the show(I might miss something due to my English).I've been thinking about it for a long time and I cant understand: why didn't they use Molly to find Peter?!?! plz someone give me a logical answer!

1) Maybe, but I'd like to finally find out and stop speculating.
2) So, the Haitian was near him the entire time? I doubt that. I figured they use drugs, but that doesn't explain how he got control.
3) Yes, but does Sylar? See #1
4) See #2