Matt knew Claire was Angela's granddaughter when he questioned Angela.
Sandra knew Claire's biological father could fly, when she and Noah talked about Claire and West and "they say girls turn to find boys just like their dads" (or something like that) and "cause he can fly?". It was cool to find out that it wasn't as big of a secret as (at least I) previously thought.

I don't remember much of that. My memory's all shot...

did HRG know nathan was claire's father when he abducted him after he slept with Niki?

No, he found out when he, Ted and Matt met up with Claire and Peter in ep 22. He said "so Peter Petrelli is your uncle, huh?"

Yeah, Sandra was talking about HRG. She said so. HRG is the one who said 'because he can fly', referring to Nathan.

And Matt could have pulled that out of her mind, or Nathan's mind, or whoever's mind. At this point, I bet Matt could read Haitian's mind.

You know what else - Matt is getting a little morally gray, because even after he made Angela's brain bleed, he extracted the name of the last person in the photo of 12.

he never actually extracts her name.

she tells him that if he does, then he is his dad, and then the scene ends.

everyone's assuming that he has because we already know the character's name through other sources.

No, we're assuming he has because at the end of the episode MATT knows her name, because he's written it next to her picture.

It's possible that Angela rewarded Matt with her name, because Matt declined to take it forcefully, but I doubt it.

A little morally gray? I think it has gone a bit beyond that, and not because he continued to get information from Angela. The thing that troubles me most about what is happening is actually the scene with him and Molly. On at least two occasions, he planted suggestions in her mind cavalierly. there was no purpose for him to make Molly come back and finish her cereal. He did it because he could. At least with Angela, there was some underlying reason that he could fall back on. He could say that there was some greater good. What he did with Molly, however, was completely despicable because there wasn't any higher purpose. It was just him getting his way. Yes, there is darkness in Matt's future... and his present.

Matt forced it, no doubt.

Question is, why is he so keen on finding out the 12? I truly forgot why is chasing them down.

And why doesn't he just 'tap' his father now that his power's growing (and he can turn his sadistic streak on someone who deserves it)?

He didn't realize he did it the first time. When he told her to eat, he was making sure he did what he thought he just did. Honestly though, if I could have mentally forced my daugher to sit down and eat, when she was that age, I would have.

I think alot of people are exaggerting about how far Matt has fallen; he is just flexing his new muscles, so to speak. But Matt is a good guy; he will realise his mistakes in the future and change them.

I think its obvious that Matt took the memory forcefully as this is his right to do so.

We're talking about a woman who was ready to sacrifice her own son (and no, she didn't know he would heal)...as we saw in "4 months ago" Peter never really exploded, he controlled it, if he did turn into a nuclear bomb, he would have been toast (Peter is not Majin Buu)

anyway, that's that, Matt's a good guy, Angela isn't, as a superior being, her memories are his to do with as he pleased

He is at this time the most powerful person on the show cause he can just tell anyone to off themselves if he wanted to, she should be lucky he let her live


HAIL MATT!

Well, i don´t think that the scene with Molly is as bad as you think it is. When he planted a thought into Molly´s head it was by accident and he was curious if it really was him and so he did it a second time, the cereals thing. It worked and so he knew what he was able to do. He didn´t do it because he could but to get to know if he could.

Same here. It was an artistic way to show us what Matt had done.



Peter didnt' die because he has Ted's power and just like Nathan's skin doesn't burn off when he flies super sonic speed Peter and Ted don't die from explouding -- they don't break apart, it just comes from with in them, not that it's still not painful. That's why Peter still had his clothes on. Now, Angela figured since he had Claire's power he wouldn't die. Peter was not suppose to die. He was also not suppose to blow up over the hudson river and perhaps fall in -- which is what we could guess Angela thinks.

In 1.23 Claire confronts Angela with the fact that she is fine with letting her son be sacrificed and she says "Thanks to you Peter will Survive." I don't get how that sentance makes people think she figured Peter would die. The whole fight between Claire, Nathan and Angela is about letting Peter be responsble for killing all those people. I do say it's pretty bad to be okay with your son having emotional gulit for something, but when the altertive is death you could make an argument for it. She never thought he would die and one wonders since in the timeline when Claire died Sylar was the bomb if she ever knew that Peter would be the bomb until it was too late. But, that's another story.



Matt thinks he's saving lifes and I so I am on his side for doing it, he felt he had. But, I am also on the side that my head is private and my secrets are private. And to someone like Angela secrets save lives. Matt is too new to all of this to get the pain Angela has been through -- the morals she had to throw out the window to save her children from the same fate. When it comes down to it the young before experience are doe eyed and want to do good, but "Stuff happens." Angela knows to protect Victoria cause she knows the game. Matt doesn't know the game yet and he has the best intentions, but I don't think he gets how dangerous it is and he may just lead Adam right to Victoria. What's Matt gonna do, shoot Adam? But, not being there first hand with Angela's generation, I'd think I was saving Victoria too. Audience has hindsite the characters just done.

so he does! haha.

can't believe I missed that.

ah well, forget what I said.

but anyway, I don't think matt is evil because he forcibly extracted her name from angela's mind.

for starters, he's just trying to save pratt.

for seconds, angela's a manipulative woman anyway. she overemphasised the evilness of matt's actions to ward him off doing it. good to see parkman develop a backbone and go through with it anyway. but it's a slippery slope, because sure, it shows he'll use his powers for what he believes is good. and what he believes IS good, but that could change. motivation is key.