Not really, but I can say that I'm not liking her character very much this season.

Think about it, she tells her father that she hates him. Him. The same man who took a bullet for her, the same man who had his memory erased for her. The same man who gave up his entire life and that of his family's for her protection.

How does she repay him? By constantly lying to him. By falling in love with the guy stalking her.

I can understand some of her reaction being attributable to her age and how common that is. But, considering all that she's been through and all that Noah did specifically for her, you'd think she'd give him the benefit of the doubt all things considered.

I see some of your annoyance, but still

Stop protecting the girl that can't die. >.>

Hopefully HRG dying will teach her a lesson.

I completely agree. I get the feeling that that entire month of discovering her abilities completely fazed her. Even if she is still young, I don't understand how she could be so ignorant given the circumstances she was in.



While Claire can't die, Noah is protecting her from being emotionally traumatized, or ending up like Elle. It seems that once you belong to the company, they own you. He doesn't want her to be put through all of that and wants her to have a normal life (which she completely abused by lying to her father).

Then again, if she did follow daddy's orders, we wouldn't have much of a storyline, would we?

Claire can't seem to pick a side, one minute she is a whinny girl who seems to cry and not use her brain much, then wow all of a sudden she gets confidence and courage and some sort of brain. I'm sorry but after learning what all her father has done to help protect her, after being held hostage and knowing what the company does and can do she still acts so immature. They set Claire up to be smart, yet I have not seen her use her brain lately. Come on stop putting her on the fence, she is either smart, strong and confident or a whinny ungrateful kinda dumb kid, which is it going to be?

I myself like her being strong and confident, I hope that is how they keep her.

Agreed.

Yes he's also the man whose acts of bagging and tagging past brought a mind reader and a radioactive man to his home to take his family hostage. He also a man who shot his partner because his partner wasnt comfortable with delievering his own up on a silver platter. He's also a man whos past came back to haunt him in his daughter's boyfriend. He;s the man who telling his daughter not to do things to get the family notice yet he's flying across the globe killing people, drawing just as much attention.

I get what you are saying but what he's done for her doesnt absolve him from some of the things he has done.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to absolve Noah of the things he's done wrong. However, Claire knows little to nothing of everything you said. Heck, she's never gotten an answer to her question about him bagging and tagging. But what she SHOULD know is that he no longer does that. Irregardless of what he did it before, she should know that he doesn't do that anymore. Part of the reason why they're in hiding is because of the company he worked for and all the "horrible" things he and the company have done.

Yes, particularly after everything they went through in the first season, it seems a little ridiculous for Claire to be rebelling so fiercely again and declaring she "hates" him, but I suppose it isn't too insane for a 17-year-old girl who's in love with a guy who talks about him like the boogeyman.

Claire this season has that whole "LOVE ME! LOVE ME PLEASE!" thing going on, and it *is* getting a bit tired.

If I see Claire cry one more freakin time I swear I'm going to run over Hayden Christenwhatever with a bus

She has been annoying, and i hate the "she's a teenager, so that automaticly makes her supid" cliche she has been forced into (also, what kind of BS cop out is that? Oh, all teens are idiots that are controlled completly by their hormones, so its ok! It makes my head hurt that people could generalize like that, and everyone just accepts it. For the love of god, she was set up as a non traditional cheerleader that has brains, guts, and drive, yet when she suddenly gets stupid, people chalk it up to "teenager syndrome", and when she falls for her stalker like an idiot, "oh, its just those crazy teenager hormones". sorry for the rant, but this development of her character irritates me on several levels). Let me just say that I love Claire last season, but if they are going to abuse her character like they have been, they should of killed her off and left us with the memory of the real claire, instead of the pale immitation we have currently.

a sad addition to my post is that I have grown from hating west with the fire of a thousand suns, to almost liking his character. I swore I wouldnt let it happen, but those freaking writers did a pretty good job at turning him from creepy stalker to someone people can empathise with. It would have been the easier to just make him normal from the start, and not some "Im a unique snowflake, you all are robots, Creepy emo loser that thinks he is better then everyone", but i guess I can forgive them since he turned out all right

oh, ps, her name is hayden (god i cant spell her last name, so its phonetic) Pan-a-tier. I think Hayden Christiansomthing was that emo turd that played Vader Jr. in one of the starwars movies. you can still run him over with a car if you want though

I must have gotten her confused with an actor I equally desire to run over with a truck.

Claire is far from dead to me, I still think she's working through a heck of a lot of stuff for someone her age to have lived through. How many of us have witnessed persons dying, a new father that betrays her several times, a new uncle that explodes before her eyes (that she even pointed a gun at), and being chased by some maniacal stalker (and I'm not talking West). Then she moves, has to give up her love for cheerleading (but not for long) and pretend (again!) to be something she's not...UGH! The girl's had a lot to deal with...and she's not even been asked to prom yet.

Her infatuation with West is annoying, her hating her dad is annoying, and her lying and deceiving her family is annoying as well. Why doesn't she give her biological dad a chance? Live with Nathan! Maybe living with supers will get her back on track.

Lets not forget she watched her dad take a bullet to the gut for her. And she was raped and murdered that one time.


And all the time she's been maimed and killed, that has to have *some* effect on a 17 year old.

Everything looked good from Company Man to Four Months Later.

After that Claire became whining idiot who should be removed from the show. I thought pretty much the same about Noah too, but in the latest episode, 9th, he proved that he is awesome guy after all. Claire then again was still annoying brat. And the most annoying part is that there are flashes of she being not-stupid, she loving her family and understanding that it's not a good idea to 'trick' that annoying cheerleader with falling from 10m and dying(And hoping that noone sees when she regenerates)

My own personal wish is that she accidentally falls into a volcano in the next episode.

I agree. Claire in Company Man, up until How To Stop An Exploding Man, was such a strong and interesting character, especially going around with Peter and Ted and all that. But she has really gone backwards this season, with West, and cheer leading and everything.

Yeah most of the characters seem to have taken a step back this season. I wonder why.

eh, i think the whole "i hate you" thing being the last words said to someone before they die is just bad, clichéd writing.

Its not Claire's fault to be honest...

Even with Isaac's paintings, this season still doesn't quite know where its going... yet?

Claire Bennet's character has been written and acted well. I was thinking that Claire was being written stupid/stupidly at first, but during this episode it dawned on me that she still was completely innocent and unknowing of the nature Noah's work, the Company's work. Dad did not lie to her, but has not been forthcoming about all the aspects of the Company and the events of the past. So she naturally should be disturbed by West's testimony. So I say good job to the Heroes team.

I loved Claire's growth in the first season but she has been really whiny and annoying this year for no strong reason at all. Given what she has been through last year you would think she would be more understanding of her father's motivations.

I agree. ( Wasn't her exact last words "But the painting!"? )

Sure the "I hate you" thing was a little cliche, but it isnt like she wont be able to talk to him again
also, yea, her last words were about the painting, but i guess they dont count because they wern't as heartfelt as the I hate you part, lol.

You know, I agree with most people here, I dont blame hayden for the fall of her character, she has done an awesome job acting, and is very good at what she does, its just the fact that they gave her a turd to polish this season, and no matter how hard she acts, without a solid character, no matter what she does, it wont be gold.

She didn't say those were her "last" words to him, but that they were the "last thing I really said to him."

the season knows where it's going, it just hasn't to the viewers yet. It's called suspense.

She knows she is not an ordinary teenager, she knows Company is capable of taking her away form his daddy, yet she still acts like a 6 year old. When she told Lyle that their dad was a lier, I said, "D'oh"! C'mon Claire, you know who he is, what he does, it shouldn't be a surprise to you...He is doing everything for you!

For 16 years she had a normal life, a normal family life, a place in society she was reasonably comfortable in, and then shortly after puberty when her hormones have already turned her world view on end, it's suddenly it was torn to shreds -- creepy relatives, spys & serial killers out to get her, strangers expecting to use her to save the world -- overall she stepped up & coped really well, but after they saved NYC she wanted life to just go back to how it had always been (stop the bomb == save her old life) ... it's naïve, but she'd never really seen what the company did or could do -- or what her dad did for them -- she was always shielded from all that.

Instead of getting her friends & life back, her dad sets them up somewhere completely new and tells her she can't date, can't cheerlead, can't rebuild anything she cared about ... then she gets beaten over the head with what her dad used to do to people like her ... and he starts acting extra paranoid about everything in general & her in particular ...

I don't think her behaviour or reactions this season have been at all untoward, do you?

Yes, but she's been through a lot during the first season. She learned that other people with special powers do exist. She met a mind reader and a nuclear guy! Their home was burned down, Haitian shot his daddy in front of her. I'm saying she should have grown a little bit more by now...

Yeah, you'd think that seeing her Dad voluntarily take a bullet to help protect her would let her know just how serious things are! But she seems to have had a reset from the Claire of last season. What happened to the Claire who saw everything she did in NYC, who wanted to go "on patrol" to help people, and who was willing to shoot her newest favorite uncle to help save the world? It seems all she has cared about this season is making out with West and pulling pranks on the evil head cheerleader. She should know that her family is in deep doo doo because of her. She wanted to help save the world before, but now she can't even try to lay low to save her family?

Exactly. I couldn't say it better..Everytime her daddy told her something, she just did the opposite of it. She didn't even try to lay low. And the prank...That was the stupidest thing to do. She acted like her only goal was to drive her daddy crazy. At least she managed to get him killed! Well done Claire...And I blame the writers...

It's kinda hard for someone to grow as a person or have any kind of life if your dad tells you, you can't do anything that brings you joy. That's the worst thing to ever tell a child.

Noah basically wanted her to go to school and come home with no interaction with anyone outside of the family, and that was completely unfair on Noah's part.