FlyingGirl
Nov 24 2007, 02:44 AM
This might seem a little odd as he's said that as soon as he gets his powers back he will kill Maya and Alejandro, but I think Sylar might have feelings for Maya.
Think about it, she clearly likes him and nobody has every really treated him so genuinely and nicely before. Chandra studied him, his mother was pushy, Candice was working for someone, everybody else he meets wants to kill him (Mohinder) or capture him (The Company).
Also, out of everybody we know he's killed he's never spent so much time with his intended victims as he has with Maya. They've been roadtripping it for what has to be a few days now. When he looks at her is it really still the look of someone with a "shiny new toy" or somehting else?
I think that when it comes down to it he won't be able to bring himself to kill Maya because he actually likes her. Maybe even he'll actually go as far as doing something to save her and her brother.
Elve
Nov 24 2007, 03:33 AM
Maybe he kills Ale to be the one Maya needs
wolfbro
Nov 24 2007, 08:50 AM
Sylar's only feelings toward Maya strike me as, "How long can I get away with using her before I can

the annoying brother and her into more powers for me."
Begemot Geroi
Nov 24 2007, 01:49 PM
I second what wolfbro said. He's just using her. If he gets to have a little fun on the side, hey, it's all good.
ElectricShock
Nov 24 2007, 01:50 PM
I agree.
Rabbit
Nov 24 2007, 02:25 PM
Of course he doesn't. He's evil.
kitty
Nov 24 2007, 02:32 PM
QUOTE (FlyngGrl @ Nov 24 2007, 12:44 AM)

Think about it, she clearly likes him and nobody has every really treated him so genuinely and nicely before. Chandra studied him, his mother was pushy, Candice was working for someone, everybody else he meets wants to kill him (Mohinder) or capture him (The Company).
This is a good point. From what I can tell, there is only sexual tension between the two. Sylar made this sexual tension to seduce Maya. I think that his hunger for power is overcoming his want to be loved.
although, I think it would be nice if they showed some more of Gabriel caring for Maya.
What I'm saying is that Sylar may LIKE her in a sexual way, but he doesn't care for her.
silentbobni
Nov 24 2007, 02:45 PM
Hard to tell I think. Maybe she will turn evil or turn Sylar good. Remember he went to stop Peter not kill everyone.
GirLwTheHair
Nov 24 2007, 03:07 PM
Very true... he didn't want to kill all those innocent people. BUT, we all know what happened when he went to his mom. I think when he killed his mom the last "good" in him died.
As far as liking Maya...? I dunno honestly. I guess anything could happen.
This is my theory/theories:
-If Sylar likes Maya, it's sexually. Def. not in a loving or caring way.
-He might secretly like Maya. And we find this out b/c he saves her someone how- and then he realizes he's crazy inlove w/ her. (Yeah I like the two of them together... can ya guess

)
-He might kill Alejandro, take his power and be w/ Maya.
-Maya might turn bad and then she and Sylar will live happily ever after.
But I honestly don't think any of those things will happen seeing that there are only 2 epis left.
themightytruk
Nov 24 2007, 03:09 PM
I doubt Sylar really cares about Maya. He just wants to use her power to his own twisted means if he can't get it himself. He's manipulating her right now.
FlyingGirl
Nov 24 2007, 03:12 PM
QUOTE (GirLwTheHair @ Nov 24 2007, 11:07 PM)

-He might kill Alejandro, take his power and be w/ Maya.
This is a very possible idea, but if he did do that with the intention of being with her she wouldn't exactly be OK with him kiling her brother.
GirLwTheHair
Nov 24 2007, 03:17 PM
True. But I think anything can happen. It's HEROES.
Alessandra
Nov 24 2007, 04:00 PM
Please... No. Just, no... I'd stop watching if Sylar had feelings for Maya...
AkariMizunashi
Nov 25 2007, 10:54 AM
I personally think he's just using her, but if he ends up really caring for her, that would be fine with me. I think the only thing lacking in Sylar being an ideal character is not enough pitiability. A love interest with Maya (if Mohinder is out of the question - cough) might bring that. Maybe.
Eos
Nov 25 2007, 11:01 AM
Sylar is too far gone to actually have feelings for another human being. He's going to screw that poor girl up, over, and sideways before it's all over.
GirLwTheHair
Nov 25 2007, 12:19 PM
Yea... although it would be sweet to see that side of Sylar (hey... I'm girl, I can't help it), but I really think she's going to get really hurt.
Or maybe she'll figure it out in time & kick his butt- but not kill him, cuz that would be bad.
Ronald
Nov 25 2007, 12:27 PM
Ok, Sylar might have feelings for Maya but in the long run, its not going to work. If he kills Alenjandro then she will leave and if he doesn't Alenjandro will convence her to leave. Shes not evil just misunderstood power. If Sylar ends up with Alenjandro's power then she would know something is up. So, unless Sylar convences Alenjandro to trust and befriend Sylar, I don't see anything happening between the two.
IGotSuperPowers
Nov 25 2007, 12:39 PM
I think weather Sylar get's his powers back or not he wins. LOL
kaelraye
Nov 25 2007, 02:25 PM
I haven't really seen anything in the episodes to suggest 'care' for her. He might be attracted to her but I think it's more for her power rather than her as a person or for her her body. I also agree with other people that the relationship is pretty much doomed anyways. Alejandro isn't going to trust Sylar at all and Sylar really does want to kill him (has said so), so it's doubtful a relationship will last.
FlyingGirl
Nov 25 2007, 02:58 PM
I read in one summary that in tomorrow's episode Maya finally chooses between her brother and Sylar.
Now there's no way she'd leave her brother, he has the key to stopping Maya's power going out of control. The only way Sylar would be able to convince Maya to go with him would be if he could somehow help her control her power on her own.
And I hear rumours that she finally sees his true nature in the volume(and possibly season) finale. That's definately gonna be interesting in terms of how she reacts to the fact that this seemingly nice guy who's been travelling with them is a serial killer.
Leek
Nov 25 2007, 03:03 PM
It's obvious that theres *something* going on between Sylar and Maya. I think the feelings he has for her are more then sexual ones. Maya idolizes him.
Think about it. All Sylar cares about is being great, and regarded as such. But, when have we watched someone actually tell him he is all powerful, all awesome, a bang up guy? I can't think of a single occasion. Even when the Company has him, and HRG says how unique he is, it's only after his insults him for a few mintues before and after.
Maya shows Sylar respect. She tugs at that part of him. So, I wouldn't be surprised if those feelings were confused for love, even by the parties involved. He would love that she loves him, you know?
invisifan
Nov 25 2007, 03:19 PM
Someone told Maya she has a darkness black enough to kill the Devil himself (or some such) ... Sylar at full power could qualify

-- if he gets his powers back the first thing he's going to do is try to kill Alejandro ... and we all know what happens when Maya gets upset ...
GirLwTheHair
Nov 26 2007, 09:41 PM
WOW... this episode showed us a lot about their relationship. Maya chose Sylar over her brother! What?
Poor Alejandro

.
Now here's my question. Is Maya OK w/ Sylar being all evil? The last we see of him in this last episode is him on the phone w/ Mohinder. Something must have happened to Matt or the babysitter (obviously they can't just leave Molly alone). Maya was smiling, but that smile to me was a lil evil, like she was hiding something behind her smile.
So is Maya bad, too? I think she is. I think they make a cutest evil couple! (After Spike and Dru- I'm a HUGE Buffy fan)
Oh and I totally agree w/ Leek: that Sylar loves that Maya loves him.
Ronald
Nov 27 2007, 04:13 AM
QUOTE (GirLwTheHair @ Nov 27 2007, 12:41 AM)

WOW... this episode showed us a lot about their relationship. Maya chose Sylar over her brother! What?
Poor Alejandro

.
Now here's my question. Is Maya OK w/ Sylar being all evil? The last we see of him in this last episode is him on the phone w/ Mohinder. Something must have happened to Matt or the babysitter (obviously they can't just leave Molly alone). Maya was smiling, but that smile to me was a lil evil, like she was hiding something behind her smile.
So is Maya bad, too? I think she is. I think they make a cutest evil couple! (After Spike and Dru- I'm a HUGE Buffy fan)
Oh and I totally agree w/ Leek: that Sylar loves that Maya loves him.
Sylar will love her power more, enough said.
ordinaryhero
Nov 27 2007, 05:06 AM
I'm not Sylhinder fan, never will be, but I believe that Sylar has more 'feelings' for Mohinder then he does for Maya. Maya is just a nice juicy burger waiting to be eaten. He's toying with her, like a how a cat toys with it's food before eating it. If he was ever to have a relationship it would be with someone without an ability. He's too much of a psycho. It would be like, things are going great and wham he can-opens their skull. Whoops, couldn't control the brain-eating instinct.
ordinaryhero
Nov 27 2007, 05:06 AM
I'm not Sylhinder fan, never will be, but I believe that Sylar has more 'feelings' for Mohinder then he does for Maya. Maya is just a nice juicy burger waiting to be eaten. He's toying with her, like a how a cat toys with it's food before eating it. If he was ever to have a relationship it would be with someone without an ability. He's too much of a psycho. It would be like, things are going great and wham he can-opens their skull. Whoops, couldn't control the brain-eating instinct.
Arial
Nov 27 2007, 07:41 AM
Hmm speaking of Sylar ... but kinda off the subject...How many of you about lost your breath when he came to the door all wet and OMG..Can I say mini O!!
Begemot Geroi
Nov 27 2007, 08:03 AM
I loved that scene where he was coming out of the door with the towel slung over his shoulder. that was pretty hot.
I doubt he loves Maya -- he's already said he's going to kill her and take her power.
dcg
Nov 27 2007, 08:08 AM
No. Sylar only cares about himself and getting what he wants.
ortizmj12
Nov 27 2007, 08:27 AM
QUOTE (GirLwTheHair @ Nov 26 2007, 09:41 PM)

Maya was smiling, but that smile to me was a lil evil, like she was hiding something behind her smile.
I think the smile was because she was happy that he had made contact with Mohinder. And she's still under the assumption that Sylar is taking her to Mohinder to help her. If you just listen to what Sylar says during the phone conversation, I don't feel like he said anything that would show Maya how evil he is.
IMO, Sylar is toying with her. And he has to, to get to Mohinder and coerce him into helping him get his powers back so that he can take Maya's. Next week's ep is gonna be a good one
SpecialBritt
Nov 27 2007, 01:53 PM
I don't want to think that he's just using Maya, but most likely he is. I desperately want them to have some sick love affair because Sylar just wants to feel special, and Maya thinks of him as a saint.
And the thing with Mohinder is kind of weird because how is he going to convince Mohinder to help him? I know the trailer said that Sylar was going to get his powers back, but ever since that whole thing with "The Box," I haven't trusted them.
Beagle
Nov 27 2007, 03:59 PM
I'm inclined to believe that if the season were to go beyond more than an episode (and there might still be possibility yet), that Sylar would, at least for a while, find more utility in Maya as a puppet-girlfriend than a snack.
Sylar really seems to enjoy the subjugation of others' powers to his benefit, and up until now it's been entirely in a physical/consumatory sense (okay I made up that word - consumation sounds too sexual for this context, but there is consuming! nalm nalm nalm). He might find a lot of sick pleasure in twisting such a religious (she was a friggin' nun for a while!) and sweet-natured girl and using her as much as possible (nobody else knows who she is and have no reason to not believe the best of her) before he eats her brain.
But, since they have to wrap this up quickly, chances are she'll figure out what the eff is going on and break it off. She'll also likely die for it either way.
GirLwTheHair
Nov 27 2007, 09:42 PM
The girl is so blind, I don't think she'll figure it out.
infocassie
Nov 27 2007, 10:20 PM
I think Sylar's first and only love is power. Well I shouldn't say only, he does love watches, and brains, and ice cream, and cardigan sweaters, and Mohinder.
I was honestly surprised Sylar knew how to hug. Also insanely jealous of Mya - his glistening chest could have caused another exploding man storyline.
Leek
Nov 28 2007, 01:18 AM
QUOTE (infocassie @ Nov 28 2007, 01:20 AM)

I was honestly surprised Sylar knew how to hug. Also insanely jealous of Mya - his glistening chest could have caused another exploding man storyline.
LMFAO

:LOL
TWK
Nov 28 2007, 02:03 AM
Sylar killed his mother, do you really think he cares for some girl? He is just using her
MrsGoogly
Nov 28 2007, 04:12 AM
If he does care for her, it's in a very warped, selfish and sinister way. You don't force the person you love to become estranged from their brother, and then kill said brother very horribly.
No, he doesn't care for her. She's just a means to an end.
FlyingGirl
Nov 28 2007, 04:45 AM
I must say that after monday's episode I am more inclined to agree that Sylar is using her. She does care about him though, that much is clear. Some may think that the possibility of an evil couple is there and it would be interesting in terms of story I will admit.
But he killed her brother (Dag nabbit Sylar, what is it with you and killing the hot Latino guys) and from the preview for next week Maya isn't going to take that well.
invisifan
Nov 28 2007, 06:34 AM
QUOTE (MrsGoogly @ Nov 28 2007, 07:12 AM)

You don't force the person you love to become estranged from their brother, and then kill said brother very horribly.
This
is Sylar you know -- hardly horrible (for him) ... Unless he brought Al's brain along for after he gets his power back ...
MrsGoogly
Nov 28 2007, 08:02 AM
QUOTE (invisifan @ Nov 28 2007, 06:34 AM)

This is Sylar you know -- hardly horrible (for him) ... Unless he brought Al's brain along for after he gets his power back ...
Stabbing him viciously in the neck and then making out with the sister with the body lying just behind him? Fairly horrible!
I just meant that he is obviously manipulating Maya for his own means, not caring about her feelings or wellbeing. That's not love!
SylarClaire
Nov 28 2007, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (TWK @ Nov 28 2007, 11:03 AM)

Sylar killed his mother
Accidently,he didn`t mean to do it.
Anyway,over to Sylar and Maya, or Saya,as i like to call them.Let me just say one thing before i continue.I like the idea of those two together.It`s very clear that Maya cares about him.As for Sylar...i think i can say for sure that he`s using her now.He doesn`t care for her.If he does,i will be suprised.
Maybe they can be together later on the show.Much later.If both of them are alive for a long time.
TheHangedMan
Nov 28 2007, 08:19 PM
Sylar cares for Maya..
..the same way Hannibal Lecter cares for a fine bottle of wine.
Though I daresay Sylar will take more pleasure out of consuming Maya than wine. He's a twisted, twisted man.
Mabes
Nov 28 2007, 09:32 PM
In my opinion theres no way Sylar cares for Maya. He said it himself - she is a shiny new toy. He's been using her from the start and you can see it in his eyes and smirk whenever she is not looking.
It's freaking creepy and hilarious all at the same time. But you gotta feel sorry for the girl, she is way too naiive.
Rebel
Nov 28 2007, 10:10 PM
I'm having a similar discussion over at the Sarmy board.
Sylar and Maya If you know the Harley and Joker relationship, I think it may be something like that.
I think his relationship with Maya is mirrored in his relationship with Mohinder --not sexually but emotionally--in that emotionally he wants normal bonding but this is at odds with his great lust for power. I think he lusts for Maya's power and her body but I think its even worse for Maya than we think. I think he literally considers her something that belongs to him. I think if they both survive next week's finale they will not be out of each other's lives.
I think Maya wants to get rid of her power and if she did maybe she would have less to fear from Sylar.
After that steamy kiss with Sylar, wet and half naked scene did they have sex?
(if people say he'll kill her--I agree but there is a Spoiler caveat that goes with that)
Jesuit26
Nov 29 2007, 03:32 AM
QUOTE (Rebel @ Nov 29 2007, 06:10 AM)

After that steamy kiss with Sylar, wet and half naked scene did they have sex?
I doubt it. Unless Maya doesn't mind the dead body of her brother on the floor.
Leek
Nov 29 2007, 05:45 AM
QUOTE (Rebel @ Nov 29 2007, 01:10 AM)

I'm having a similar discussion over at the Sarmy board.
Sylar and Maya If you know the Harley and Joker relationship, I think it may be something like that.
I think his relationship with Maya is mirrored in his relationship with Mohinder --not sexually but emotionally--in that emotionally he wants normal bonding but this is at odds with his great lust for power. I think he lusts for Maya's power and her body but I think its even worse for Maya than we think. I think he literally considers her something that belongs to him. I think if they both survive next week's finale they will not be out of each other's lives.
I think Maya wants to get rid of her power and if she did maybe she would have less to fear from Sylar.
I really like the points you make. I agree completely, even on the Mohinder note. He is so ditached from the rest of the world, you know? You can tell he hasn't had any real human contact from the world in a long time. Part of that was probably do to his arrogance, but look at the relationship with his mother. They were obviously estranged for a certain amount of time, and even if they weren't, she doesn't seem like the type of person you could get close to. There are these fragments of a normal person spread out inside of him, and they seem to reach out everynow and then in odd ways. I think part of it is also do to him liking an audiance. Whats the use of being special if theres no one to tell you that you are?
Mohinder showed him friendship, seemed to generally care about his well being, and admired his abilities. Sylar fed off that the way he feeds off Maya. In his mind though, these people belong to him (as was said). Thats where it gets all messed up. I think that's why he was so hard on Mohinder (Calm down Syhindlarites!). He could have just offed him, but instead he tortured him. Not enough to kill him by any means though. Just enough to be possesive, to show Mohinder who had control of everything.
So, I'll say it again. Sylar loves that Maya loves him. After going so long with out attention, he is reaching out for it. I think he'd play his cards so that he could keep her around for a while. Thing is though, when she finds out about her brother, theres no way she'll stick around with him. I think she'd chose death for herself before that.
MrsGoogly
Nov 29 2007, 05:49 AM
QUOTE
So, I'll say it again. Sylar loves that Maya loves him. After going so long with out attention, he is reaching out for it. I think he'd play his cards so that he could keep her around for a while. Thing is though, when she finds out about her brother, theres no way she'll stick around with him. I think she'd chose death for herself before that.
But it's still all about the power.
Had he wanted to keep Maya with him he
never would have taken her to Mohinder's flat. It's a bit bizarre that he has done that, really, as Mohinder is going to tell Maya
exactly who and what Sylar is as soon as he crashes through that door!
Rebel
Nov 29 2007, 09:05 AM
QUOTE (Leek @ Nov 29 2007, 05:45 AM)

I really like the points you make. I agree completely, even on the Mohinder note. He is so ditached from the rest of the world, you know? You can tell he hasn't had any real human contact from the world in a long time. Part of that was probably do to his arrogance, but look at the relationship with his mother. They were obviously estranged for a certain amount of time, and even if they weren't, she doesn't seem like the type of person you could get close to. There are these fragments of a normal person spread out inside of him, and they seem to reach out everynow and then in odd ways. I think part of it is also do to him liking an audiance. Whats the use of being special if theres no one to tell you that you are?
Mohinder showed him friendship, seemed to generally care about his well being, and admired his abilities. Sylar fed off that the way he feeds off Maya. In his mind though, these people belong to him (as was said). Thats where it gets all messed up. I think that's why he was so hard on Mohinder (Calm down Syhindlarites!). He could have just offed him, but instead he tortured him. Not enough to kill him by any means though. Just enough to be possesive, to show Mohinder who had control of everything.
So, I'll say it again. Sylar loves that Maya loves him. After going so long with out attention, he is reaching out for it. I think he'd play his cards so that he could keep her around for a while. Thing is though, when she finds out about her brother, theres no way she'll stick around with him. I think she'd chose death for herself before that.
I agree with what you've said and I also believe he got really frustrated by Peter Petrelli's interference and harbors a lot of rage towards both Petrellis and Hiro. But also as Sendhil himself has said there is a lot of spark between him and Sylar. Sylar always wants to return to him--which is what I suppose fuels all the speculation about them.
I think Maya is going to surprise Sylar with using her powers against him once she finds out about her bro (which maybe what provokes him to kill her. It would make sense.)
I also think unless Maya gets rid of her powers Sylar will still come after her to get them once he gets his powers back. But then she might be able to use her powers to protect herself and others against him.
Mollie
Nov 29 2007, 02:37 PM
There is no way Sylar has romantic or even sexual feelings for Maya in fact, I think he just loves the feeling of using and manipulating her. However, I do think Sylar could be capable of have some feelings for someone (in a friendly way only) at some point in time but I highly doubt it will ever happen.
Alessandra
Dec 2 2007, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (TheHangedMan @ Nov 28 2007, 09:19 PM)

Sylar cares for Maya..
..the same way Hannibal Lecter cares for a fine bottle of wine.
Though I daresay Sylar will take more pleasure out of consuming Maya than wine. He's a twisted, twisted man.
*Wicked Grin* I love it. Just love it.
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