When Peter demonstrated his power of astral projection (AP) during the finale last season, he traveled into the past where he witnessed a conversation between his mom and Charles. At some point during his 'out of body visitation' Charles, realizing that Peter is there, comments on Peter's power of invisibility. Now, I would have assumed that the power of AP would have caused him to be 'invisible' but if that is so then why does Charles make this 'observation'?

Additionally, does the power of AP also come with time traveling ability? It would seem so. But, Adam seems genuinely impressed by Peter's visit into the future during a period of AP that leaves him, upon his return, calling aloud Catlin's name. Is Peter combining AP with time travel? Was Adam's apparent surprise a lie? Having lived four hundred years and having lived among specials for at least decades, why would Peter's ability have been so 'impressive' to Adam if it where not in some way truly novel or was Adam's reaction just another lie on his part?

Your comments are welcomed.

Creator

I think Adam's "Impressive" reaction was due to seeing that he successfully killed 93% of the worlds population.

I am guessing thought that Peter's ability is quite unique. Someone what was able to absorb and keep the powers of others would end up godlike and unstoppable. So Adam is probably impressed with the things that Peter can do as well.

What if it's Peter's AP combined with Hiro's time travel abilities? He's jumping back and forth in time, but not leaving his body. The real question is who did he get it from- maybe his mom or Charles. But if it's from Charles and he used it when he knew Nathan was in an accident, it doesn't make sense, cause at the time he didn't go work for Charles yet. Damn I wish they'd just clear up all the Elders' powers already!

I say:

Angela: Astrol Projection

Charles: Dream power/precog

QUOTE (IvyB @ Nov 28 2007, 12:56 PM)

What if it's Peter's AP combined with Hiro's time travel abilities? He's jumping back and forth in time, but not leaving his body. The real question is who did he get it from- maybe his mom or Charles. But if it's from Charles and he used it when he knew Nathan was in an accident, it doesn't make sense, cause at the time he didn't go work for Charles yet. Damn I wish they'd just clear up all the Elders' powers already!

Don't forget that Peter came out of this astral projection with a piece of paper from the future, but according to Adam, he didn't go anywhere.

Axel,

That his physical body remained at Adam's crib, doesn't surprise me. Because, by definition AP is an out of body experience. Peter's astral body left his physical body and traveled to the future, returning with the piece of paper (much to my surprise!).

Visitor27,

It is my understanding that AP is a form of dream walking and thus is a dream power.

IvyB,

When Peter 'travels' using AP, again by definition, his astral body leaves his physical body. And, I'm of the opinion that the astral form can move freely though time.

Ezra33,

That could be true. His response could have been genuine.

Creator

I like this idea.

If Peter got AP from his mother it would explain how she could "know" so much about what is going on around her (seemingly first hand).

I originally thought it was Mr. D that had AP when the first season was still new, but I like the idea of Angela having it better.

Yes, sorry, very true. I guess what I am thinking is from season one that Peter had two kinds of dreams
He dreamt of Nathan, in real time so to speak, being in the crash: Astral projection from Angela
and The Bomb dream -- as in seeing the future, I'd like to think came from Charles power.
Or, Charles is an empath and Angela has an all kind of dream power, but she seems to know more about what's going on in her own time then the future, so I like to think she can do the astral projection -- out of body thing. It would also mean she may have no been in Claire's life, but she may have been watching her all her life -- and that's really intersting.
"I know everything about you Nathan." Also takes on new meaning. I really really hope this is true. "cause the Nathan dream has to be before he met Charles and if they forget that I'll be mad.

QUOTE (dcg @ Nov 29 2007, 05:27 AM)

I like this idea.

If Peter got AP from his mother it would explain how she could "know" so much about what is going on around her (seemingly first hand).

I originally thought it was Mr. D that had AP when the first season was still new, but I like the idea of Angela having it better.

I think the time travel is what surprised Adam...perhaps a realization that Hiro had been around Peter.

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Let me first point out that charles was not impressed by the AP power meaning he knows someone who can use this power. I do think that Angela is the one who has this ability.Charles's ability may have been to sense the abilites of others (peter should have this ability if charles could use it when he was around peter, more likely he died of the shanti virus and was inhibited). Charles probably didn't know about Claude-leading to his comment about Peter being invisible. I think AP allows Peter and Angela to project their dreams selves anywhere to any time. They can only communicate to other people in AP state if it is the other persons dream. Adam may be impressed by the fact peter was able to pull something out of his dream (something that may have taken his mother some time to do), or like has been said his plan works so well. Let me also say i think Angela is still manipulating things from prison using this power.


DONT UNDERESTIMATE THE ELDERS!

dcg,

It makes more sense to me that Charles is the donor of AP power. For, he can 'see' Peter even while he's otherwise invisible to Angela. Charles, if he were a dream walker, will have encountered other dream walkers at some point. The dream walkers would be 'invisible' to all but other dream walkers. Charles, as a consequence sees Peter because his invisibility does not serve to cloak his presence from another dream walker, for they are accustomed to viewing the otherwise invisible.

Angela, if she was a dream walker, would have seen her son. She gave no indication (unlike Charles) that she did. I imagine that Peter (not realizing he was using AP) was using his invisibility in combination with his AP (he would not understand that he might not otherwise be visible) but to no avail, as the other dream walker (Charles) sees him even while cloaked in his unnecessary additional level of invisibility.

Creator

so thats what that was?
i sat for a while wondering what the hell happened when peter said he was back in the future calling caitlin and was now in the present with a piece of paper i was like wtf? did he have a flashback or travel back?

i like the AP idea. imo i think he got it from his mom.

DarkHeroJ,

If Charles is not a Dream Walker, how then is he aware of Peter's presence during Peter's astral visit in last season's finale? [Note: remember Peter's physical body was lying in the middle of a the street, where Noah found him, while he astrally went back in time to witness the conversation between his mom and Charles?] After all, remember the old saying "...it takes one to know one..."? That, and Angela apparently never noticed Peter.

Creator

hmm
you got a point. it could be Charles.

i wonder if we are ever gonna find out on the show

Creator,

Thanks for taking the time to comment to me about my post above.
I thought for the longest time that Charles had AP. The comment about flying around and seeing people all over the world sounded very AP to me. Next the dreamwalker issue came up. What if the AP starts out like dreamwalking and grows into full blown AP? Could be.

I'm still thinking that the lights flashing on and off at the jail when Angela was being attacked by Maury was from Angela's ability. I'm thinking she can draw energy from any energy source be it electricity or bio-electric. She could kill the lights or take the life of someone very easily if this is true.

dcg

dcg,

You are most gracious. Thank you.

Additionally, I would suggest that AP = dream walking. Be well.

Creator

I'M SAYING THAT PETER AND MABEY HIS MOTHER TOO VISITED CHARLES IN A DREAM WASNT HE DEAD AT THIS POINT.

This was not AP. Peter time traveled to the future, and traveled back to the present in the same moment when he left, so it seemed as though he didn't go anywhere.

And besides, if it were AP, he couldn't have come back with a piece of paper from the future.

josiah,

Come closer...listen carefully...I'm reasonably certain that it was Peter (alone) who was dream walking, having left his physical form laying in the middle of the street, he travelled the astral plane (in his astral body) into the past, where he witnessed a conversation that Charles and Angela had previously had (during Charles lifetime on Earth). [NOTE: This is evidenced by Peter seeing himself and Simone there as well.]

So, Peter as the observer (the astral 'watcher') astrally watched a past event (at a time when Charles and Simone were still alive).

Joe Ravenclaw,

Although you are talking about Peter's dream walking venture into the plagued ridden future, it was still an AP adventure none the less. His astral form had left his physical form, and made a brief 'trip' into the future where, as an unwitting observer, he saw Caitlin and 'retrieved' (amazingly enough) a plague leaflet (providing yet another clue about how AP works!).

Creator

then how did caitlin and the other peter not notice him there?

Idk... maybe he was in and out of the future so quickly, that nobody noticed him standing there? I honestly don't know.

But my theory does hold more water since it is already confirmed that Peter can travel through time, but it has never been confirmed that he has this new power. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Joe Ravenclaw,

As for your theory...drip...drip...drip...

Now, just what part of...he left his body in the present (both this season at Adam's and last season's finale lying in the streets of NYC) and traveled, unseen, into the future and the past...don't you understand? Have you 'seen' Hiro time travel this way (out of body, i.e., separate from his physical body)?

[NOTE: Do not respond until you think this through carefully]

Creator

dude i get it but still talking to someone who is dead even in an AP state to the past is still cool im not arguing that call it what you will i refer to this as a dream state because their real body is somewhere else away from any real harm{note this makes it almost impossible for him to bring back real objects which he does}



not everyone has to agree with you i think many things could be possable and it is a good theory

josiah,

...a rose (or power) by any other name smells just as sweet! So you prefer to call 'dream walking' (AP) 'dream state'. Okay. And, we all saw that he brought back the leaflet (even though he had an out-of-body experience). Even Adam remarked "Impressive!" So, in the "Heroes" saga, it is now a given that someone can (while in AP state) retrieve objects (and return with them). Agreed?

And, flawed logic (invalid arguments or false statements) make for flawed theories. That's why we discuss our theories. So we together can test them for their validity (looking for exceptions or contradictions). But, you are welcome to hold onto your beliefs. Enjoy.

Creator

well then, if charles was the ap donor why would he even comment about invisibility. how would he even know peter could become invisible if peter is not using this ability around charles (which i dont think he was) (he was not visible because of the ap state). i dont think charles can see as much as sense peter's abilites. He says something like, "i know your there peter" not "i can see you." Now lets say he was using his invis. power, charles couldn't see him but i think he would say the same thing "i know your here peter." then something like "invis. always thought that would be a fun one"
do me a favor, go back and watch 6 months ago. Peter hasn't met charles by this point and he dreams about nathan's accident. drip..drip..drip..
it's obvious that peter has this power before he works for deveaux. does it not make more sense that he would have the ability of one of his parents and that power be the first to manifest?
SShhh...don't tell anybody...it's angela's ability

Now, I think your AP theory might work for the first time, when Peter passed out, and had the dream thing. But, it can't possibly work for when Peter went to the future. This is because when your astral form leaves the body, the body shuts down, like it's sleeping. And when peter went to the future, he was standing, and if he had used astral projection, his body would've collapsed, right? But he didn't, he kept standing the whole time.

Also, an astral form can't interact with tangible objects, like the evacuation notice that Peter brought back from the future. The only way he could've gotten the paper, was if his physical body was there in the future to actually pick it up.

And to explain why adam didn't notice peter was gone at all, was because when peter traveled back, he came back to the exact moment where he left off. Adam couldn't have noticed him leave.

Shannen Doherty could do it. LOL. Watch Charmed

josiah and Joe Ravenclaw,

Thank you for engaging. You each raise good points (and have noticeably raised your game, too). I think we have to dismiss what we thought we knew about a power before it was displayed on "Heroes". We should open our minds for the possibility that the powers on "Heroes" will differ from what we have come to know.

We know that Peter leaves his body behind and assumes an astral form, once in NYC during season one's finale and again while with Adam in Montreal this season (epi 2.10). I think this is best described as astral projection (dream walking).

We know that Charles was aware that Peter was there, even if he was invisible to him. Charles mentions Peter's power of invisibility for a reason. Since Charles knows that Peter is in astral form (past Peter is there along with Simone and Angela) I deduced that Charles also has AP power and is aware when another dream walker is in his presence (even if they are cloaked in invisibility). So, because Peter is not certain he can not be seen otherwise, he most likely did use his invisibility. And, he is surprised when Charles speaks to him. Is this reason-able?

Now, we also know that Charles, Angela, Linderman and Arthur are acquaintances. He could have acquired the power from Arthur, too. Besides, we can not be sure (one way or the other) that Peter has not met Charles prior to working for him. We also can not be sure that when Peter 'saw' Nathan in a dream, that that was as an AP (dream walker). This could be yet another 'vision' ability. [NOTE: It would be nice if we knew for sure what the founders' powers were.] Plus, I have previously explained why I think that Charles is my more likely choice of AP donor over Peter's mom. I still think that that argument has merit.

As far as an astral form interacting with tangible objects, I too held this belief (as did Adam, apparently). But, he left his body, when to future NYC and came back holding a leaflet. As Adam said, "Impressive!". What other logical explanation do we have for what occurred? [NOTE: Remember the movie "Ghost"?]

Does time work the same on the astral plane as it does on the physical plane. Perhaps not. Why, even using time travel on the physical plane, the time traveler bends time to his will. [NOTE: Hiro spent months in the past with Charlie, yet was only gone days when he returned.]

Good effort. Good discussion.

Creator

Just a point your being a hypocrite there. We use what we know of these powers to help describe what is going on, just that. JOE says you have to be asleep but i would say more incapacitated like day-dreaming.
you say that Charles comments for a reason what reason? If it is not to show that charles can pick up on it. It never shows peter try to go invisible, In fact it may be impossible for him to do that or use any of the other powers with AP. It is his body he makes invisible if it is not there then thats right out.OHHH and here is a good one right before charles dies he talks about flying around with peter through a world he did not recognize full of pain la la la. Peter says that he will save them. Is this the future the 12 created? it would seem if charles had the AP ability he has at least seen some of the future. All we know about it is for some unkown reason charles can tell that peter can become invisible even though their is no evidence that peter even tries to become invisible.

As for them meeting up before that fact i have thought about that too thats why i said before he worked for charles not before they meet. One thing we can assume is that these powers were just starting to manifest at this time. If you do look at peters dream-power growing into full blown AP then he had the ability before he was working around charles.

I am gald we agree that this is something different from time travel. but i'm afraid we may have to agree to disagree about where he got this power.

Been an AWESOME discussion

josiah,

I don't see a contradiction here. What I'm suggesting is that we use a scientific approach to re-discovering what these powers mean in the "Heroes" world. This does not mean that we will not arrive at the same conclusions. I just suggest that we remain very conscious at this moment in deciding what is or is not going on here.

We have seen depictions of poltergeist phenomena, where a ghost (non-tangible entity) is able to move tangible objects. We naturally assume that intangible entities (including dream walkers) would not have the capacity to interact with or move tangible/solid objects. In the movie "Ghost" there was an example of the successful movement of solids (the penny) by the ethereal (the ghost).

I start by assuming that it is not possible (or not knowing what is possible). But, "Heroes" shows that this particular interaction is possible. I now look for other experiential examples to support this position. That's rational inquiry.

Charles mentions Peter's power of invisibility specifically. Somehow, he is aware of Peter's presence. Is it not logical to think that maybe Charles detects Peter because he too is a dream walker? And, as a fellow dream walker, that he would normally 'see' Peter's astral body?

But Peter, unsure of what is going on and suddenly finding himself in a strange and unexpected situation, might naturally and logically deploy the defensive mode of invisibility. And, this could provide a logical explanation for Charles' comment about Peter's power of invisibility. This is one logical explanation (not necessarilly the actual ultimate reason, but a rational, logical explanation). Agreed? [Plus, both Peter and Chales talk about sharing a dream where Peter takes Charles flying. This too sounds like two dream walkers hanging out.]

Creator

Dude.. I dunno what u'r smokin', but i want some. Your rational, logical explanation is ultimately flawed. Why doesn't Charles comment about the AP ability, if he shares the same power. Peter is NOT using the power of invisibilty at this time. Charles is merely picking up on the fact that Peter CAN be invisible-and how cool it is. If both had AP, then wouldn't Charles know that cloaking was an AP ability? Obviously- it is. What proof is there that Peter tries to use Claude's invisibility? None. Like i said before we do not even know if he can use other abilities with AP, and he makes his BODY invisible, so if his body's not there thats right out.

As for Angela-she could have been completely aware of Peter's AP presence and chose not to show her awareness. She has a pattern of deceipt. It would be in her best interests to not interact with Peter's AP self ; especially in the presence of actual Peter.

"charles mentions Peter's power of invisibility specifically. Somehow, he is aware of Peter's presence. Is it not logical to think that maybe Charles detects Peter because he too is a dream walker? And, as a fellow dream walker, that he would normally 'see' Peter's astral body?"Creator


not logical at all it would make more sense that he would talk about AP specifically if that were the case instead he talks about another of peters abilities one which he thought would be cool. you would be saying because he is a fellow dream walker he can tell when peter tries to use different abilities.THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

josiah,

I find it unfortunate that the very rational and very possible explanation for what may be happening meets with such unwarranted disbelief but, I'm fine with that. If Charles ultimately is shown to be a dream walker than my hypothesis will have been confirmed. And, if not, I will stand corrected.

The whole reason I liked this topic was because of the opportunity to ask and investigate the possible reasons for what we experienced.

• Was it possible that Peter was using powers in combination? Was it possible that an AP Peter, unfamiliar with his power as he is [While unknowingly in astral form, calling out to Caitlin but not being visible and most likely unheard as well!] would react accordingly and attempt to cloak himself in invisibility in an effort to escape discovery? Is it possible?
• Charles ( a visionary in life) knowingly and easily interacts with an AP Peter. Could he be a dream walker too? Is this possible? [Why, he and Peter even share a dream where Peter takes him flying! Very cool!] Likewise, might he just be admiring Peter's power of invisibility? Is this possible?

I see the possibilities and look for rational explanations for them. I find joy in (en-joy) the process.

Thank you for this opportunity. Be well and again, enjoy the finale!

Creator

Creator,


Logically and rationally explaion to me how your arguement holds any weight.
you say dreamwalkers can see dreamwalkers. What if they can't? When peter
travels to the future HE DEOS NOT see himself. This would mean a dream walker
CAN NOT see a person in AP state. So if that be true who's right come on you
missed it i missed it to untill now. This would mean charles would need some
other way of knowing.

ANGELA= DREAM WALLKER\AP
CHARLES= AURA\ABILITY SENSOR

Peter's first dream occurred during Nathan's accident, just after he became a nurse ("Nathan enters offering him a pair of ladies' shoes as a present for becoming a nurse" from Six Months Ago).

josiah,

This information comes from the "Heroes wiki". It directly contradicts one of your earlier assumptions (concerning the timing of Peter's dream about Nathan's accident and his working relationship with Charles). Not that he could not have interacted with Charles prior to his actually working for him. But the eclipse occurred and powers seemed to spontaneously manifest...

There is also quite an extensive discussion (on the wiki) about the possibility that Charles has AP there (not that you would find that persuasive) that I found interesting. Especially when they connect Peter and Charles repeatedly in terms of their dreams and specifically their possible shared AP ability.

And, what I said most recently is: "Charles ( a visionary in life) knowingly and easily interacts with an AP Peter. Could he be a dream walker too? Is this possible?" I saw this as an advancement in my position, which you have chosen to conveniently ignore. Why?

I will borrow a persuasive argument from Vampire mythology which suggest that they also can not see their own reflection, but that does not prevent them from seeing each other. I say this because I can 'see' the possibility. Of course, you don't. According to your logic, vampires should not be able to see each other (not being able to see their own reflections). No, josiah, I do not see your conclusion as an absolute. Can you say this, your epiphany, is (without a doubt) true? Good work though (food for thought).

Thank you, again, for expanding my imagination. Enjoy "Heroes" tomorrow.

Creator

I don't argue this because it also supports my theories. charles has the ability to sense abilities, emotions, auras and the like that is why he knows peter is there. i'm not ignoring I agree.

So creator can you explain why the two peters did not see one another?Why did you ignore this fact when he goes to the future with the AP power and grabs the paper the other peter does not see himself

I dont look at them as creatures of the night because they have never been depicted as so but as for AP they may not be able too. By the way i think the wiki says sylar power comes from eating peoples brains but it is more like he opens them up and sees how they work.

josiah,

I never saw two Peters in that scene to ignore. BTW, I also never ignored that Peter went to the future or that he 'grabbed' a piece of paper. I hope that answers your question.

And, while I don't believe that Sylar is eating the brains, would it be a possibility? Yes; that is why so many have chosen to believe it. I used the vampire illustration as a persuasive argument, that was all. Not that you got it. But, I found it worth making, for again it allows for another possibility.

Creator

season 2 episode 10 there are two peters in the street one the AP peter the other is being arrested by the police watch it again and see if your mental block goes away dont worry its right at the begging. If you dont see it then your watching a different show or something. LOL just watched it again he looks right passed him and no look of wtf there I am. This puts a big whole in the AP seeing AP if Peter cannot see himself in an AP state

We talked about this in another thread and one person brought up the seperation of powers like this.

1) AP astral projection
2) Precognition
3) cognition
4) postcognition

Now 2, 3, and 4 might have been one persons power, the ability to see the past, present, or future. But that would possibly give Charles or Angela these powers and possibly Author and another person, depending on how you see it. If Charles had the ability to see the past or future than he could check all the powers Peter used and seen that he had invisibility. Now, Peter shows us that just because you have Empathy doesn't mean you know what powers you are getting and how to use them. But it could just be that Peter don't know how to tell them as good as Charles. But Charles knowing that Peter is there without seeing him is another mystery. Charles seemed to just feel that Peter was there which might be part of his power.

As for bringing things back from the future. It could be part of the AP or Peter might be able to teleport things using his time manipution. Does anything state that you can't teleport things without holding such thing in your physical hand. If this is the case then Peter might be able to just get the paper without touching it or the vial without going through the door.

As for Peter not seeing himself but Charles was. It could just be that Peter was being arrested and doesn't know what a AP person feels like. Are you going to check out somebody watching you while the police is taking you in. Seeing someones aura might be another way of putting it but then Peter would be able to see peoples aura also, he was with Charles for a while. Claude did show us that it is a possibility that people with the same power can see each other while invisible tho.

Ronald,

We think alike. I find it refreshing to interact with an expansive, logical mind. We both look at the possibilities. As you have mentioned, Peter may have been looking elsewhere, been distracted, etc., when AP Peter was there. And actually, I didn't remember seeing Peter, only AP Peter and Caitlin. I'm going back and re-watch that part in a few minutes.

Also, I appreciate having additional dream power information and I can appreciate the mystery surrounding Charles' awareness of AP Peter's presence. I have suggested some possibilities where this is concerned. It's fun to use one's imagination.

I regret that we don't know definitively what powers the founders had (especially Charles and the Petrelli's). I am anxiously waiting to find out. I also am anxiously waiting for answers surrounding Peter's powers (who, what, when, where, why and how). What are his limits? Will he use them in combination...?

Thank you for your input. Your thoughts and information are appreciated.

josiah,

Thank you for your attempt to persuade me. But, you lack the skill and the finesse to do so.

Creator

Ronald good points glad to see you too think charles pre post cog. Creator has been arguing the same points for a long time hoping thaty charles had the AP power i hope he deos what he said(watches the show) before he opens his head anymore.

This has been great Ronald you bring to my attention that if peter had the cog. power he still would see himself. or sense. You do see him do a sweep of the area in which he looks right trough AP peter mabey he did feel something. Great to have someone who actully pays attention on the subject.

Ronald,

So, how do you feel about the possibility of Peter using two or more powers in combination. I ask this because I wondered if Peter was using AP and his invisibility possibly when he was with Charles. I also wondered if Peter could interact with the physical world while in AP or while phased through his other powers (e.g., tk, flight, lightning, telepathy, etc.). I'd think that he could, if not now, then soon, as he becomes more adept.

I am looking forward to tonight's finale. Enjoy.

Creator

He's used two powers before so I don't see why not. AP with Invisibity with time travel etc.

PS. When it comes to Charle's power, the only thing I know for sure is that Charles isn't an empath like Peter. If he was then Charles would not have died of natural causes becuase he met Adam 30 years go. Charles would have least had regeneration Adam, heal others Linderman, alchemy Bob, Dream power, and whatever the other 10 company founders had plus all the people that he met in the company over the last 30 years.

Ronald,

You are so correct. Thank you!

Creator

I agree. Unless Charles had the virus.

Adam would be immune to the virus, therefore, an Adam enpowered empath Charles would also be immune to the virus. That's Ronald's point.

Creator

I think of all the characters ability peter is unique as for angela and charles we will all have to wait and see. There have been several good theories great discussion. I think josiah is right his argument has more facts from the show. Creator you should really watch that episode again he's right the other peter on the street does look right past the AP peter


Virgie

Thanx glad to see you agree, I also agree with you Peter is unique there is no way charles had his power.

virgie,

I agree that Peter was there and that he looked past his astral form. I did not notice the physical form Peter when I originally watched the show. I said this from the very beginning (josiah was 'kind' enough to bring this to my attention.). And, yes, by definition Peter is 'special'. He is special among the specials themselves (certainly the most powerful that we have seen...to date). But, somehow I doubt that he is unique.

As for Angela or Charles' power, I, nor anyone else, have a definitive answer. We have are best guesses.
Thanks to Ronald, I have eliminated the now obviously mistaken assumption that he could be an empath. Ronald's and josiah's discussions allowed me to advance my thoughts on this topic.

I still believe that Charles' power is dream related and that he could be a dream walker. That hasn't changed. I confess that Angela's power is a complete mystery to me, but I don't feel and therefore don't think that she is a dream walker. Others have suggested that she may have a power similar to Eden's. I'm not feeling that either. When their respective powers are revealed (hopefully in volume three) I may be proved totally wrong and I'm alright with that. So, exactly what is it that you think/feel and why?

Thank you, virgie, for your interest in this topic.

Creator

Also, if Charles had the virus, then he wouldn't have dream walked with Peter just before he died. But I could be wrong if Peter was the one who instigated it. But I just don't see why Peter would since he didn't know Charles was going to die yet.

Peter seems pretty sure Charles is dying when he talks to simone.


And Peter wasn't a nurse yet when Nathan gives him his shoes. I'm pretty sure that was his graduation party. It was at night so I always figured Peter had graduated that day.