did anyone else see the guy walking away fom the crowd after Nathan was shot?

it was def. the shooter.
looked alot like Adam..


allllootttttt

screenshots?

i think angela is working with adam.

At first I thought it was Sylar, but obviously it wasn't. I don't think it's Adam though because he's buried underground, and I doubt he'd be able to escape that quickly.

Maybe it's someone new?

Edit: And thinking about it... Who the hell would shoot someone in clear daylight? Obviously the media is going to be all over the shooting and SOMEONE would have noticed this guy walking calmly away from the situation.

Another possibility is HRG since he says he is now "back with them", and Bob "benched" Elle. We need screenshots of the crowd.

At quick glance of the television screen, the back of the head of the killer looked a lot like HRG.

I'm pretty much convinced that it was HRG. The shooter looked just like him from the back, plus Noah has basically sold himself to the Company to protect his family.

Looked like HRG to me.

Yes, i agree. 99% probably is HRG. Wait till claire finds out his adopt father kill his real father.

im pretty sure that it was HRG as well... im thinking this is the deal that he made with bob to give his family a "real" life..

HRG already knows that Elle is questioning her father now and we are not aware of Bob having anyone else that can even really threaten anyone atm...

So what did Bob threaten HRG with?

By what I can gather, the deal was for HRG to help keep the secret of the company a secret, meaning shooting Nathan to avoid the secret being revealed.

Rewatch as the shooter walks away, you can that he is wearing glasses...and its pretty clear the company sent this person to keep Nathan from revealing anything.

I think its Noah Bennet and because the company sent him to keep Nathan quiet they better be ready for a huge backlash. Without even taking into consideration a normal investigation into the shooting, its only a matter of time before Peter or Matt pull information out of someone from the company.

Who else could fire off two rounds, stash the gun, and walk out of there before the guards cornered anyone...

My man, HRG, that's who.

Although, I'm going to throw out that this is some extra levelage on Bob's side...Considering he'd probably know Nathan was Claire's actual father, sort of a message to Claire but also a nice little thing to throw between HRG and Claire...

Of course, that's my two cents.

The guy who walked away looked too skinny to be HRG...

Could it be Angela Petrelli? It would be a twist. She was wearing a similar coat, but I could be wrong...

At the end of the episode, when she was on the phone, I got the impression that she was talking to the killer. Anybody get that feeling?

As for HRG, he didn't come to mind when I first saw it. I'm thinking it might be a new character. Being as how the next episode (or volume?) is called "Villians"...Sylar's back and now here's another to make "villian" plural...? But I like the HRG guess. That'd put a twist into the story


I didn't see any glasses. Maybe it's because I only have a 27" TV, but from what I could see that person dressed in black was too far away to see his face. There's a few requests for these shots in the screenshot thread, maybe somebody will get a close-up shot of the persons face.

It would seem to make sense that it was HRG...he's a dead shot, he's working for the company again, and as part of his deal with keeping Claire safe he's supposed to prevent anyone from going public about powers (as Claire was going to do). And he's cold-hearted enough to kill Claire's biological father, despite how much a family man he is. Perhaps HRG knows that Nathan can be revived (as Noah was), so was just stopping Nathan from saying something right then.

I didn't see glasses, but I'll have to look at the clip again.

The only other person I think that could shoot that close and get away with it would be invisible Claude. Are they bringing him back? That would be cool!

She has no family loyality. It made me sick to see her cry when she really didn't mean it. I understand her stating that Peter may have to be shot to save 93% of the worlds pop. She knew Peter would be able to bounce back...but Nathan? Really.

im going with Bennet

HIROS FATHER KILLED NATHAN

I believe that too, yeah, if you guys have been reading the novels...maybe Hiro's father (Kaito Nakamura) has the ability to clone or some power that brings him back to the picture..and only he is closest to Angela...and yeah the whole letting the "Pandora out of the box" or something along the lines of that...and yeah spoilers have been hinting that Kaito Nakamura is going to use his powers and the hint is that it is present tense or something..but yeah all just theories based on the (plot) twists of Heroes and how "unpredictable" it is.

It was Angela. Black coat, small build, cropped black hair.


NAAAAAAAAAATHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOES!!!

Some high definition screenshots here ..

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpos...p;postcount=645
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpos...p;postcount=648

As well as speculation that it's future Peter.

That looks like Sylar with the baseball cap. No ways.

It's one of the 12 that isn't really dead. Maybe even Arthur. It's someone really powerful who will be the main villain next season.

It does look like Sylar, though it could be Future Peter. Which would make sense if they didn't want to actually kill off Nathan, because Peter could never kill his brother for real.

For some reason the fact that it could be Arthur popped into my mind too. I mean the fact that we only have Angela's word that he killed himself just isn't enough for me . But still being killed by your own hero would really suck... As for it being HRG I just don't think so. Doesn't look too much like him and I would think he would have been in California although he could have been flown to Texas I guess.

Based purely upon the build/body-shape of the person, I'd have to say its a man.

The man has dark hair, and it wearing a navy blue baseball cap. He appears to be caucasian, or at least lighter skinned.

The man is fairly skinny. Not emo skinny, but medium build at most. He is also of average, to above average, height

Considering that evidence, along with taking opportunity (power? alive? where are they?), means, motive, and the fact that it is likely a character we have before seen into consideration, we have the following suspects:

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Noah Bennet
There is a chance that this is one of the very tasks that Bob has Noah around for. Killing Nathan is in the Company's best interest, as he intends to expose them. They know of his intentions because of the security camera in the vault. There will also be a certain sense of twisted destiny in Claire's adoptive father killing her birth father.

Peter Petrelli
This is only possible of him if he is time traveling. Perhaps Nathan's speech sparks another world ending future that Peter deems is his responsiblity to stop. It seems like an extreme move, but we don't really know what future Peter is capable of.

West Rosen
He fits the physical description of the assassin, and has motive in that he wants his secret kept. He could, rather easily, fly to the sight of the conference. However, there is little chance that he would know it is coming or would go to such extremes.

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Of those three suspects, the evidence seems to point to Noah. He is the only one who, currently, fulfills all the facets of the assassin.

I also think he had personal issues with Claire having two fathers. Now she only has one, her emotional response to this happening will also have her reaching out to Noah again filled with emotion. He wins in ever aspect.


I doubt it's Peter, did you see how easily Peter turned because he loves and believes in his brother that much.

The shooter looks nothing like HRG. Far too thin frame wise.

I will admit it does look more like Peter than anyone else but that really doesn't make much sense with Angela Petrelli on the phone afterwards to who we would assume was the killer or the person responsible for ordering the killing.
We know its definitely 'company' related as the security camera in the vault captured the entire conversation between Nathan and Peter.

Skeletor skinny? wt... Skeletor was as big and beefy as He-Man he just had a skull head... "logic" anyone?

Use an olive oil next time

The quick glance we saw, the walk, etc, seemed like Noah.

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looks a lot like sylar. maybe its sylar from the future?

Ok, ok, good point. I guess I'm alittle lacking on my He-Man memory. Olive Oil, Crypt Keeper, etc. would be better choices. I changed it to something else though. Fitting?

Pa Petrelli.

How would West know to kill Nathan?

He would have had to, over the course of the episode, join the company, had a breifing on what Nathan looked like and how to use a gun at a long distance, not to mention he'd have to suddenly be capable of murdering a stranger.

I thought it was HRG, but I also thought of West . . . I still never totally gave up the theory that West was with the company this whole season, although I have nothing to prove it.

What I would like to know is how with all those cops and reporters in the crowd, could someone just walk away like that unnoticed?

Hence why I included the following sentence in my post:

"However, there is little chance that he would know it is coming or would go to such extremes."



I've been wondering about that too. It could mean either:

1.) Really shoddy direction.

2.) The assassin has a power that allows them to distract others/avoid detection, such as invisibility or mind control. However, I really doubt (read as: "there is no way in hell") it was Claude.

As for the cops, the thing is, it was chaos all over I assume. I mean, yeah, the first thing *I* would have done after getting over that initial shock would be to turn around. But..that initial shock lasts just enough time for the shooter to exit.

I think it was HRG.

I can't believe people haven't consider this. The entire thing is an illusion conjured up by Matt. Probably to prove that they have power.

I'll be very happy to buy this!

Great so now what? HRG is back to his old roots again? Are they trying to make me hate HRG for 'killing' Nathan? 'Cos its not working. And Claire's going to HATE Noah for killing her biological father. That is IF she somehow finds out..

Oh noeeeeess.. it's West? really people hated the guy and if he ended up killing Nathan.. wow.. he'll be shark bait 0__0 And i was enjoyed West in Cautionary Tales

But really, who knows? *screenshots*

HRG for sure.

I don't know. The guy was skinny and moved a little too quickly. HRG is a pretty stocky guy and he moves with a purpose. Maybe it was someone else. Maybe someone that doesn't actually need a gun to shoot someone, but has a power that can?

I was actually sort of joking around with that idea in my head. Future Sylar kills either Hiro, Peter, or some other time/space guy then goes back in time. Although just walking in and shooting someone in the chest twice doesn't seem like Sylar's style. But I guess future Sylar could be different than present-day Sylar.

At first after reading the forums I thought HRG is the person. But after looking at the screenshot the person did seem a bit skinnier than HRG. So I kind of doubt it is HRG.

I think its Noah. He made a deal, and i bet that was part of it.

I think the biggest question is, why the hell didn't Matt try and stop the shooter? He obviously was the only one who had a glimpse of him. Matt's character always acted on impulse. He was the act first, think later cop. Why just stand there and do nothing? Hell he could've at least try to bring the shooter in his mental world.

If West is really with the company, it isn't a long shot to think that he could have killed Nathan. He would know who he was, he would have been trained as a shot, and he definitely had motive. I think West is a good suspect.

I don't know why but I just have a hunch that it is going to be a character that is not yet introduced and I'm leaning towards Papa Petrelli. It just seems too much of a coincidence that they keep bringing him up and haven't done any sort of story telling with him. Maybe he has been pulling the strings all along through Angela and Adam.

It was clearly the Jamaican, the new character I have been talking about.

Bennet makes the most sense, but the screen shot doesn't really look like him (dark hair, too skinny) I'll admit it does look a lot like Peter but as someone said, it doesn't make sense since the hit had "The Company" written all over it.

I'd like the idea that it was Angela but that doesn't make too much sense either with her phone call, and the fact that the assassin looked male.

So in conclusion: I got nothing