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Alordo
Was this season's savior. Kind of funny. Nuclear boom saves the world. smile.gif
Snxke
That's what I was thinking too. What almost ruins the world now saves it.
BohrokAwakener
I never thought of it that way, but I guess thats a nice touch. I was wondering exactly how they were planning on destroying the virus; I'd completely forgotten about Peter's induced radiation! It was nice to see the power being used again, even if it seemed a little bit too simple... Given all the complications and side-effects surrounding stopping the explosion in Volume One, destroying the virus seemed comparatively easy, especially when you consider that none of the deaths this season (unless you count Caitlin) were related to stopping the virus... it'd have been nice to see a sacrafice related to saving the world, like Isaac and Nathan in Volume One, rather than Niki's sacrafice to save Monica which had nothing to do with the main storyline.
LV Linderman
So, what do you think Gilligan will do next episode to keep them from getting off the island Peter will do next volume to almost destroy the world, and then save it? cool.gif
Hart
QUOTE (LV Linderman @ Dec 4 2007, 02:26 PM) *
So, what do you think Gilligan will do next episode to keep them from getting off the island Peter will do next volume to almost destroy the world, and then save it? cool.gif

rolleyes.gif He'll probably watch a few people get killed ... help 'em come back to life ... be on the wrong side of Hiro, Claire, et al, learn the error of his ways, reunitie with them and stop Sylar ... you know, same ol', same ol'.
daytonagk
QUOTE (BohrokAwakener @ Dec 4 2007, 01:04 PM) *
Given all the complications and side-effects surrounding stopping the explosion in Volume One, destroying the virus seemed comparatively easy, especially when you consider that none of the deaths this season (unless you count Caitlin) were related to stopping the virus... it'd have been nice to see a sacrafice related to saving the world, like Isaac and Nathan in Volume One, rather than Niki's sacrafice to save Monica which had nothing to do with the main storyline.


I agree.

Back to the bomb. As stated by HRG all of Isaac's paintings have come true, except for two. Hiro and the t-rex, and the Explosion.
Drackoe
QUOTE (daytonagk @ Dec 4 2007, 04:20 PM) *
I agree.

Back to the bomb. As stated by HRG all of Isaac's paintings have come true, except for two. Hiro and the t-rex, and the Explosion.


Hiro and the T-Rex came true. It was a painting of him after he stole the fake sword in the museum. He held it up against a T-Rex model.
daytonagk
QUOTE (Drackoe @ Dec 4 2007, 03:23 PM) *
Hiro and the T-Rex came true. It was a painting of him after he stole the fake sword in the museum. He held it up against a T-Rex model.


damit, I missed that one.

ok but the explosion?
Alordo
Well, the explosion came true. Peter did blow up. But I don't think the Hiro and T-Rex painting were an exact replication of what the painting portrayed. I think the T-Rex symbolized something else. Then again, I am more than likely wrong. smile.gif
daytonagk
QUOTE (Alordo @ Dec 5 2007, 07:43 AM) *
Well, the explosion came true. Peter did blow up. But I don't think the Hiro and T-Rex painting were an exact replication of what the painting portrayed. I think the T-Rex symbolized something else. Then again, I am more than likely wrong. smile.gif


I have to disagree. An explosion did happen but it in no way matched the painting on Isaac’s floor. It has not come true, Yet.
meyack
was kensei the t-rex?
Hart
QUOTE (meyack @ Dec 5 2007, 10:22 AM) *
was kensei the t-rex?


But Isaac's paintings were not metaphorical. What you see was what you got, though the interpretation of the painting may have been incorrect. For example, the painting of the cheerleader came true. It wasn't Claire, but that was our fault for assuming it was. Seeing Hiro and a T. Rex, we assumed he'd go back in time and the lighting of the painting suggested it was a real dinosaur, but the painting happened in the museum with a model of a T. Rex.

Also he painted a picture of NYC after the blast from the Deveaux building's rooftop terrace. That didn't come true either unless you decide that Isaac painted the future, whether it was going to happen OR possibly going to happen (i.e., in a future timeline visited by Peter) ... in which case, that's 'tarded and anything goes. His other paintings suggest this is nto the case: he literally painted the actual future. A destroyed NYC, as of yet, is not an actual future as it seems it should be.
Alordo
I agree with your assessments. But you have to remember that FHiro warned Peter to save the cheerleader, thus changing the future that Isaac has painted. So in essence, I think that Isaac did paint Claire but that got changed. And perhaps the Hiro vs. T-Rex was Hiro's display in the museum. Either way, Peter still blew up, but it was changed BECAUSE they knew it would happen. Isaac's paintings were still on the notion that it wouldn't be changed. A lot of things happened that changed the future Isaac painted. Even Sylar didn't die as he was supposed to. There are my reasons for saying what I said. I do agree with what you said as well. I am just speculating my thoughts. smile.gif
spiderfrommars
There is an interesting point to be made about conflicting ideas of the space time continuum... because Isaac's paintings ALWAYS come true, yet the future is still able to be changed. The only thing to be said is that there's a lot more surrounding each event depicted in his paintings than what's on the canvas.
maz57
QUOTE (daytonagk @ Dec 4 2007, 04:20 PM) *
I agree.

Back to the bomb. As stated by HRG all of Isaac's paintings have come true, except for two. Hiro and the t-rex, and the Explosion.


Avinite
QUOTE (daytonagk @ Dec 4 2007, 09:20 PM) *
Back to the bomb. As stated by HRG all of Isaac's paintings have come true, except for two. Hiro and the t-rex, and the Explosion.


And Micah in a building on fire
Hopper
The micah one didn't happen because the explosion didn't happen.
Renrut
QUOTE (Hopper @ Dec 6 2007, 04:40 PM) *
The micah one didn't happen because the explosion didn't happen.

We don't know that the bomb stopped the virus. It was in Odessa. I have posted theories that Hiro contributed to Adam taking the villain path and that was why there was no virus in the bomb timeline. Nobody bought that theory. Why would the explosion in New York stop the virus? Adam would have survived the blast.
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