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Linara
Okay, the timeline on Heroes so far is about, what, six months or so? One month for season one (october to november), the four months over hiatus, and a couple weeks or so for this season, so far...

So Molly's parents were brutally murdered six months ago (her mom was hung up on the wall with forks and whatnot--can't imagine that was fun for her to hear) by her 'boogyman'...she got attacked by her 'nightmare man'...and she's had no therapy that they've referred to on the show...Sylar shows up at her home, with a gun, threatens the man she's come to trust and care for as a caretaker, she nearly gets killed by this strange woman and her powers...and yet she's all cool with this and smiling by the end of the show.

How many ten year olds do you know would be so mellow?

I think she's had a psychotic break, myself. laugh.gif
sickotriz
Wasn't her dad frozen and missing the top of his head in the same house with her mom pinned to the wall? Or am I remembering another Sylar victim...
Begemot Geroi
QUOTE (sickotriz @ Dec 5 2007, 01:07 PM) *
Wasn't her dad frozen and missing the top of his head in the same house with her mom pinned to the wall? Or am I remembering another Sylar victim...

No, those were her parents. You got it right.
Marzipan
Seriously. She has the worst childhood EVER.

I think Molly and Micah are so traumatized that they'll end up saying "F--k Humanity" and become the villains in season 5. Molly will find people, and Micah will tell their toaster to "accidentally" explode in a horrible fireball.
sickotriz
QUOTE (Marzipan @ Dec 5 2007, 03:25 PM) *
Seriously. She has the worst childhood EVER.

I think Molly and Micah are so traumatized that they'll end up saying "F--k Humanity" and become the villains in season 5. Molly will find people, and Micah will tell their toaster to "accidentally" explode in a horrible fireball.


Anyone ever see the Stephen King movie "Maximum Overdrive"? With the killer automobiles, trucks, bulldozers, harvesters, lawnmowers, cassette players, etc? Imagine Micah in control of all the world's machines and electronic devices at once, with murderous intent. GAME OVER MAN! GAME OVER!
Marzipan
LMAO! All of Sylar's clocks, KABOOM!
corrine
...haha, not to mention she witnessed an explosion at kirby plaza

but i'm sure claire also has her fair share of trauma
- almost getting raped
- waking up on an autopsy table
- watching jackie die and then running for her life
- everything that happened in company man -- finding out about her dad, her house exploded, her dad get shot
...and then watching her dad get shot again
- finding about about her biological family

etc etc etc
Joe Ravenclaw
Poor Molly... sad.gif
ColorMeToxic
Some kids manage to take things well.

It really depends on their psychological state.

Traumatization like this is what can lead to MPD and stuff like that.

She could very well have problems in her future, or she could be just fine.
DaGiNoBinO
QUOTE (corrine @ Dec 5 2007, 04:28 PM) *
- watching jackie die and then running for her life

I like to think that on the inside, she was smiling.
She hated Jackie.
Chaogasm
Yeah...I was expecting a harsher reaction to Sylar showing up. Then again, she did almost die because of Maya. I thought it was cute when Sylar growled at her to go sit down on the bed. I think I would have peed myself. I wanted a *squeak!* reaction from her. :[
JabbaPapa
Ten year old children, when not molly-coddled, are in fact very tough, and recover pretty quickly from grief.

But it seems to me that you haven't been watching Volume 2 very carefully --- at the beginning she was terrified, begrieved, and having awful nightmares from the Nightmare Man --- she has faced these nightmares, and she has been healed (by Matt, and by Mohinder).

Her current peace, including her lack of terror when the Boogeyman (Sylar) turns up in her home with a big gun, shows among other things that children grow up incrementally towards adulthood, that grief and fear can be overcome, and that Molly has regained her balance.

The characters in Heroes are, most of them, psychologically realistic (the unrealistic ones are unrealistic due to the unrealistic nature and consequences of their abilities), and are therefore prone to psychological evolution and other changes from Volume to Volume, and Episode to Episode.
Linara
QUOTE (JabbaPapa @ Dec 6 2007, 02:10 AM) *
Ten year old children, when not molly-coddled, are in fact very tough, and recover pretty quickly from grief.

But it seems to me that you haven't been watching Volume 2 very carefully --- at the beginning she was terrified, begrieved, and having awful nightmares from the Nightmare Man --- she has faced these nightmares, and she has been healed (by Matt, and by Mohinder).

Her current peace, including her lack of terror when the Boogeyman (Sylar) turns up in her home with a big gun, shows among other things that children grow up incrementally towards adulthood, that grief and fear can be overcome, and that Molly has regained her balance.

The characters in Heroes are, most of them, psychologically realistic (the unrealistic ones are unrealistic due to the unrealistic nature and consequences of their abilities), and are therefore prone to psychological evolution and other changes from Volume to Volume, and Episode to Episode.


Okay, if her parents had died in an automobile accident a year ago, fine. Her parents were murdered just a few feet from her, just a short while ago. This was a little more than the average grief for the death of a loved one. And she's not had the most stable situation, since then, in which to recover.

The nightmares you refer to didn't seem to be because she was working through her fears in her dreams, it was because her 'nightmare man' was hunting her through her dreams. He was actively traumatizing her even more. I never got the impression that she's had any problems at all with actual grief.

While I agree that kids are tougher than they seem...this just seems a little unrealistic to me. I get the impression that now that Maury isn't actively tormenting her, she hasn't a care in the world.

I'd say she's either bottling it up, and being cheerful in order to make everyone else happy, or she's got some psychological problems that need to be dealt with.

If they want to be realistic.
miss9thwonder
laugh.gif you wouldnt want to ****** her off she could literally hunt you down and kill you ohmy.gif
Raekon
I would had enjoyed SO MUCH if she would kill Sylar!
While he shots Maya, Molly shots him a hole on the chest saying "this is for my mother", then another one on his body "this is for my father" and then another one on the head with something like "and this is for not leaving me or my friends alone!". tongue.gif

Sylar with a big question mark over his head like WTF? laugh.gif
Mohinder totally Shocked(MOLLY!). O_O Mollys answer: "You couldn't Bring it, I did".
JayRo
Well, I hate to say this about such a cute little girl, but the show would be much more interesting if Sylar and Peter had her power. Sylar would of course have to kill her, but then Peter could absorb the power the next time he runs into Sylar. Then Sylar's hunt would be back on and Peter would be back to trying to foil him.

( If you couldn't tell, I really miss the competition between Sylar and Peter.)
miss9thwonder
Thompson "MOLLY is the ONLY one that can Stop Sylar"
dna4ever2007
I want to know where CPS(Child Protective services). You have 2 strange men not related to Molly raising her. One is a recent divorcee with a learning disability and the other is an illegal immigrant that is running all over the world telling otheres that there are people out there with superpowers.
They share a small gloomy apartment and both have jobs that seem to have them leave town with little notice.
Next these two jokers intrust Molly with a babysitter who is stupid enought to leave her with a dirty, grungy looking serial killer. Why didnt she call Mo and say "hey a friend of yours stopped by and wants to baby sit." Nah, I dont want to run up my minutes I'll just leave her with this crazy guy and his girlfriend instead.
CPS should come in a get this girl a real family and lots of therapy from what she has been through. Doesnt she have a grandmother or something?
If this was reality she would be serious damaged goods. Poor Molly, here is to finding a good therapist.
Begemot Geroi
QUOTE (dna4ever2007 @ Dec 6 2007, 11:45 AM) *
I want to know where CPS(Child Protective services).

You obviously don't live out here in Arizona where CPS will only intervene once the kid's dead (sad, but true.)
Astroman77
QUOTE (JayRo @ Dec 6 2007, 09:54 AM) *
Well, I hate to say this about such a cute little girl, but the show would be much more interesting if Sylar and Peter had her power. Sylar would of course have to kill her, but then Peter could absorb the power the next time he runs into Sylar. Then Sylar's hunt would be back on and Peter would be back to trying to foil him.


Peter should already have Molly's power as she and Micah were huddled with DL at Kirby Plaza while Niki went and smacked Sylar with the parking meter. We know Peter has DL's power and should have Molly and Micah's as well. He just doesn't know it. Of course he didn't know he had DL's power either and has used it a couple of times.
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