im sure everyone noticed when adam was reaching for the gold key in the vault. i wonder the key unlocks that would make adam want to have it. im sure the other artifacts in the vault are gonna have meaning in future episodes... i cant wait to see what they were put away for

maybe the key relates back to something he did or achieved as kensei. Did we ever actually hear all of the tales of kensei? because I don't think we do.

It'd be neat if it were a key that could open any door. Or something like that. Like The Lost Room.

This could open a whole new story line for Heroes..it will be fun to see what the writers(when they return) will do with this.

Whoa. I totally didn't even notice a key. Ima have to go back and re-watch for it.

It would be cool if the key was important.. maybe open up a cell or something that contained some of the more sinister/evil people with abilities that the company had locked away?

Now I really wanna know.

I wonder if they'll even bring it into next season?

[well also the key was gold..could this be a link to our Mr Midas!

Yea, when I saw him going for that comically large key, I wondered what he might want that for. Let's hope we find out.

Yeahh, the word "Gold" made me wonder about Bob. LoL.

I do hope we find out, it would suck to speculate over this, and then find out it was nothing. LoL.

I get the impression that entire room will open up a whole new set of plotlines. Perhaps that room contains relics of from all the past villains the company has dealt with. Or better yet, perhaps the company is doing some good by keeping the worst of the worst locked up and our good Heroes, as naive as they are, decide to set them all free because of their unrelenting belief in the company's malicious nature. Thus the Heroes set forth the "Villains."

I really want the brain to be something integral to the story. That'd be creepy.

The ancient brain that him and Sylar are gonna HAVE to have! LoL.

It could very well have meant something, but it could have also been just a prop that they added in.

Hi everybody!

I was rewatching the whole season 2 after work today (well the most important scenes at least and all of Angelas of course too!) and I saw again that after Adam already had the Virus on his Hand, he was about to get the Golden Key out of its self when Hiro ported in and Adam left the Golden Key behind.

Do you think that this Golden Key is important to Adam on a personal way or he wanted it for general reasons? Did anyone of you found any reference to a GN or anything else towards the Golden Key I might have missed?

Discuss!

Well my thought was that he needed the key to get his wife, who is a prisoner on level 5, out of there.

Oh, the key has to be important on purpose, for sure. I don't think its a key to level five, which seems to be in Hartsdale NY and not Odessa, but still I GUESS they could keep the key in a whole other state, but unlikely. Whatever it is I would think it had the same significance as the other objects - I think it leads to something greater than a wife -- if you get my drift - for someone like Adam that is - Power.



We have so much in common! lol. Sometimes I just watch the scene in Out of time in awe. "You must!" Yeah, whip his emo butt into place. hehe. I joke, I love Peter.

I'm sure we will find out how Adam get the 12 to work with him and what everything in the vault means come Vol 3, yay!

It seems that my posting got merged with this topic I had overlooked here. ^^
So thanks to admins for doing that and sorry that I started a new similar topic even there was one.

The Key:
I just hope that it wasn't just a action from the "old writing" that fell into place so we can really see what all of this were for.


I watched this scene countless times too!
It's one of my favorite ones that shows Angelas true face as a mother and how much she actually cares about her children no matter what others say! How she starts to cry talking about losing Nathan in the first outbreak and the hope that she puts into peter (you can hear it in her voice and see it in her acting!) by saying "you can change that" before he says that he can't and she says YOU MUST! ^^

Also the scene where she visits Nathan in the hospital and she how burned his is talking about how they are still trying to find peter without being successfull and how releaved she is that at least one of her boys is alive even in a heartbreaking state.
Where she cries and gets herself in front of the mirror saying "no Nathan, no".

Gosh I love this character.
Without her the show will lose it glance or at least the most of it for sure.
So I hope they won't waste her.

I thought a theory was that the brain was Linderman's or something.

I have no idea about the key though. Hopefully it won't end up as one of those unanswered questions of Heroes.

OMG YES! Okay, I'm taking this off topic, so we can discuss. ! My favorite part being when she has to hold herself together when he doesn't know who he is, because business is at hand. Okay, sorry going Off list.

As for the brain being Linderman, I think we would notice the large, large whole in the back.

Maybe someone sewed that hole up...

XD

It looked pretty intached to me. I think DL took a lot of Linderman's brain out with him. I'd guess Arthur
's brain over Linderman, but really I have no idea whose it is, just who it can't be.

The objects in the vault have me wondering if Hiro's fixation on the sword was just his need for a crutch, or if it really did help him.

Hello everyone, after reviewing the vault scene a while back I realized there were assignment tracker numbers on all of the items, for example the Brain's number is B037, now as the founders generation's numbers are A0 numbers, and the current generation have C0 numbers, that means that the B0 numbers belong to a generation between them, therefore the brain does not belong to either Linderman or Matt Neuenberg, as Linderman has an A0 number and Matt has the number C025.

Sincerely Nexus.

It was mentioned in a couple of threads and discussed on heroeswiki fan theories (scroll halfway down). Maybe the Company just reserved the Bs for artifacts.

I though it was already established (because of date/time) that the brain belonged to somebody other than Neuenberg?

Not sure, but I think the importance of the Key is more about its meaning than its use. (The Key most probably relates to the Ben Franklin story from the GN. Maybe it's important to one of his descendants perhaps?)

Hello FutureMuggles.


When I first realized the connection, I posted a theory on Heroes Wiki and had mentioned it on the Graphic Novel comment boards several times as well, since then I have noticed other theories on Heroes Wiki along the same lines.



From what I could see every strongbox in there has a assignment tracker number on them, (The visible ones are B0 numbers) and the artifacts may be the held property of these people, or trophies of encounters with them.

Sincerely Nexus.

That comment about descendants is funny, because Jack Coleman(Noah) is actually one of Ben Franklin's descendants.

Hi Synch.


Yes this has been established, however this narrows it down a lot further as we can discount the C0 number's and the A0 number's, this means it belonged to someone we are as yet unaware of.



It is possible that the key belonged to a descendant of Benjamin Franklin, although it reminded me of a symbolic key as it was quite large and of a classic key shape, it may be something like the key to the city or some other award, there is also the possibility that the key is hollow and is a container for something of great importance.

Sincerely Nexus.

Ben Franklin has no direct decendants. His brother, however, does.

wasn't Franklin a fairly notorious womanizer? In those days, that would seem to me to highly conductive to ...umm...seedlings...

I need to make a correction - there are no descendants of Ben Franklin who's name is Franklin. So Coleman could indeed be a descendant of Ben.

Anyone is free to research old Ben - the information is readily available. He had an illigitemate son William born of an affair in 1728 or 29, who had one son, William Temple Franklin, who had no sons. Ben Franklin's only other son Francis died at age 4 of small pox.

Ben and Wife had a daughter, Sarah, who married Richard Bache, and the Bache's had 7 children (Benjamin, William, Betsy, Louis, Deborah, Richard and Sarah). So my earlier statement that Franklin had no descendants was wrong. He has no descendants named Franklin.

Now, whether one wishes to speculate on further illegitimate children, feel free... but there's no hard evidence for it.

I was drawn to this thread because of it's number of pages... lol... easy to catch up.

But - I don't remember a key OR a brain. I'm rewatching the episode now... I'll see what I catch when I see it.

Oh I guess I didn't pay a lot of attention to this episode, because I don't rememeber any key XP
Will have to rewatch.

There were a number of items. I remember the key, the brain, and what looked like a Trojan horse. I think there were a few others too but I can't remember what they were though.

..offhand, I remember a playing card, a pyramid and if I was motivated right now, I'd check out HeroesWiki

now that you mention it, I think I remember people talking about one of the Queens in a deck of cards...

Visit heroeswiki, please. All the items from the vault are shown there, and you won't have to wonder about what you saw or rewatch the eps.

and what were the theories again? I remember a coupl of them
3 queens: represent female founders or Arthurs power (supposedly something to do with luck)
pyramid: something representing Khufu
Trojan horse: representing Odysseus
brain: an old ompany assignment

Thanks. I did know that there are resources that can be referenced concerning the show. I was just doing a little mental exercise trying to remember.

I find it interesting that the writers left Adam's apparent interest for the key a loose-end in the middle of the strike. Makes me wonder if we're ever going to see the vault or its contents again in future episode arcs.

I think in an interview the writers mentioned they were going to tell us why.

"Ooooh - shiny!"