Citizen
Dec 23 2007, 01:56 PM
Now that the volume has ended, we can discuss what questions were answered and what questions have yet to be answered.
Answered
-Identity and motives of the hooded killer.
-Why Sylar's powers were gone.
-Why Peter was in a crate in Ireland and why he had his memory erased.
-Why he had The Haitian's necklace.
-What happened in the sky.
-How Nathan survived the explosion.
-How D.L. died.
-Identity of Elle's dad.
Unanswered
-Charles'/Kaito's/Angela's/Arthur's/Carlos's/Victoria's/Harry's/Suzanne's/Paula's power.
-Who Claude was hiding.
-Identity of Nathan's assassin.
-Meaning of the items in the vault.
-Who was on Adam's side?
Anyone care to contribute?
Renrut
Dec 23 2007, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (Citizen @ Dec 23 2007, 03:56 PM)

Anyone care to contribute?
Why was the sword broken in half in Kindred and not in the finale?
When did Peter get DL's power and if, at Kirby Plaza, did he get Micah's too?
Creator
Dec 23 2007, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (Renrut @ Dec 23 2007, 03:51 PM)

Why was the sword broken in half in Kindred and not in the finale?
When did Peter get DL's power and if, at Kirby Plaza, did he get Micah's too?
Renrut,
The writers have said that Peter got the powers of all HEB's at Kirby Plaza that evening.
Citizen,
I thought Candice told Sylar that she had dragged him down a manhole.
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Shizniddle Snap
Dec 23 2007, 05:23 PM
If he has D.L.'s power he must then have Micah's and Molly's powers cause they were all in the same spot.
as for the rest maybe Villans will have answers for us.
Renrut
Dec 23 2007, 05:26 PM
QUOTE (Shizniddle Snap @ Dec 23 2007, 07:23 PM)

If he has D.L.'s power he must then have Micah's and Molly's powers cause they were all in the same spot.
as for the rest maybe Villans will have answers for us.
It is possible he got to the hospital with Nathan at the same time DL was there too. He could have walked by his OR or DL could have been on a gurney that went by him. If he got it at Kirby Plaza then that's some pretty impressive range for Peter's power.
Citizen
Dec 23 2007, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (Creator @ Dec 23 2007, 08:18 PM)

Citizen,
I thought Candice told Sylar that she had dragged him down a manhole.
I know but don't you think its a bit weird?
She gets knocked out cold yet she's fit enough to retrieve Sylar? Unless she created those Illusions to keep Niki busy.
corrine
Dec 23 2007, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (Citizen @ Dec 23 2007, 01:56 PM)

Answered
-Identity and motives of the hooded killer.
when was this revealed?
invisifan
Dec 23 2007, 09:48 PM
QUOTE (corrine @ Dec 24 2007, 12:09 AM)

when was this revealed?
He means Adam (killing the company founders).
nige
Dec 24 2007, 03:28 AM
Why did nobody in the world notice the nuclear explosion over New York?
Why did nobody at Kirby Plaza notice that Sylar's body had disappeared, or, for that matter, why did nobody ever wonder why nothing was mentioned about it in the papers, etc.?
invisifan
Dec 24 2007, 07:28 AM
QUOTE (nige @ Dec 24 2007, 06:28 AM)

Why did nobody in the world notice the nuclear explosion over New York?
Why did nobody at Kirby Plaza notice that Sylar's body had disappeared, or, for that matter, why did nobody ever wonder why nothing was mentioned about it in the papers, etc.?
People undoubtedly noticed the flash in the sky but, as Bob told Niki, the company quashed the story in the media, and without that late at night it would just be a rumour at best for most people (who tend to be sheep wrt the media anyway).
As for Sylar, only a few people would have really even known he was there, let alone thought about it... Niki & Micah were getting DL to the hospital, Mohinder & Molly were with Matt -- also on the way to the hospital -- Peter, Nathan & Hiro were all long gone ... Noah wasn't in the best shape and trying to keep Claire & himself out of the spotlight -- they'd have slipped off ASAP once the bomb threat was gone. No one else likely saw Sylar, especially once Candice arrived to remove him.
Renrut
Dec 24 2007, 08:25 AM
QUOTE (invisifan @ Dec 24 2007, 09:28 AM)

As for Sylar, only a few people would have really even known he was there, let alone thought about it... Niki & Micah were getting DL to the hospital, Mohinder & Molly were with Matt -- also on the way to the hospital -- Peter, Nathan & Hiro were all long gone ... Noah wasn't in the best shape and trying to keep Claire & himself out of the spotlight -- they'd have slipped off ASAP once the bomb threat was gone. No one else likely saw Sylar, especially once Candice arrived to remove him.
Sylar was already gone before Noah slipped off. When the paramedics are there collecting Matt and DL surely they would have noticed one other guy on the ground. Sylar was a nuclear powered serial killer. At the very least I would expect for Noah or Suresh to check his pulse. They wouldn't want him taken to the hospital to be treated. That makes no sense. I'd find it easier to believe that Candice made everyone except for the paramedics see him still lying there dead.
corrine
Dec 24 2007, 07:38 PM
QUOTE (invisifan @ Dec 23 2007, 09:48 PM)

He means Adam (killing the company founders).
whoops, for some reason i thought you meant nathan's killer. totally forgot about that
Creator
Dec 26 2007, 08:46 AM
"Who was on Adam's side?"
- Linderman (with his healing ability he could heal himself and other of Adam's disciples)
- Maury
- Thompson (ultimately, he answered to Linderman, who in turn answered to Adam)
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targetsun
Dec 27 2007, 03:05 AM
Q: Does Sylar now have Candice's power ?
Q: What happened to Caitlin ?
Q: Why is abbrievation such a long word ?
VenusianEyes
Dec 30 2007, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Citizen @ Dec 23 2007, 10:58 PM)

I know but don't you think its a bit weird?
She gets knocked out cold yet she's fit enough to retrieve Sylar? Unless she created those Illusions to keep Niki busy.
Oh! That would be why when she was knocked out she was still in her Candice form, not reverted back to being Betty. She was playing possum.
But then, I don't really like that either. Niki/Jessica can rip a man in half but she can't knock Candice out?
Citizen
Dec 30 2007, 10:01 AM
QUOTE (VenusianEyes @ Dec 30 2007, 12:04 PM)

Oh! That would be why when she was knocked out she was still in her Candice form, not reverted back to being Betty. She was playing possum.
But then, I don't really like that either. Niki/Jessica can rip a man in half but she can't knock Candice out?
I was thinking that it was a diversion too, maybe so she could die in the explosion with Micah and D.L.
Niki believed Jessica had the power and she realized the power was hers when she punched Candice.
Creator
Dec 30 2007, 01:28 PM
QUOTE (Citizen @ Dec 30 2007, 10:01 AM)

I was thinking that it was a diversion too, maybe so she could die in the explosion with Micah and D.L.
Niki believed Jessica had the power and she realized the power was hers when she punched Candice.
VenusianEyes and Citizen,
I think that the Candice persona had reached an unconscious level of existence. So, even while asleep or knocked unconscious, she would maintain her 'Candice' illusion, only relinquishing it upon death. But, you may be right. Your argument has merit.
Creator
QUOTE (Citizen @ Dec 23 2007, 10:58 PM)

I know but don't you think its a bit weird?
She gets knocked out cold yet she's fit enough to retrieve Sylar? Unless she created those Illusions to keep Niki busy.
Candice just woke up? I don't think it's more complicated than that.
Here's an interview that may help with the illusion question:
OK, likely the second most frequently asked question this week was about Candice. Treads asked first, so here we go. "In 'Landslide,' it seemed you guys went out of your way to make sure we knew Candice's true form wasn't that of a beautiful, skinny brunette. Yet when Candice gets knocked out cold by Niki, she reverts back to the cute brunette. If she was unconscious and seemingly unable to control her power, shouldn't she have reverted to her true form, which presumably would be an overweight or obese person?"
OR – she was still barely conscious – OR – her subconscious so strongly desired to be thin that she was able to maintain that form – OR – people might be over thinking this.http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10692
hollowmale
Jan 10 2008, 12:21 AM
Who attacked Angela at the interrogation room if it wasn't Maury as Nathan and Matt suggested?
Sheindie
Jan 10 2008, 12:26 AM
QUOTE (hollowmale @ Jan 10 2008, 03:21 AM)

Who attacked Angela at the interrogation room if it wasn't Maury as Nathan and Matt suggested?
It was Maury... check out the HeroesWiki
Cow
Jan 10 2008, 12:17 PM
QUOTE (hollowmale @ Jan 10 2008, 03:21 AM)

Who attacked Angela at the interrogation room if it wasn't Maury as Nathan and Matt suggested?
Yeah, it was Maury.
"Cautionary Tales"
MATT: Those marks that you have all over you,
my father made you do that to yourself, didn't he? Did you know him when his mind reading became something more? When pull became push, and then he realized he could put a thought into anyone's head?
ANGELA: Don't do this.
hollowmale
Jan 10 2008, 01:48 PM
But how can you explain locked doors, dimmed lights, and mirrors in the police station?
Cow
Jan 10 2008, 01:58 PM
Dramatic effect?
Other than that, I don't think there is an explanation. From what we've seen in the show, it's Maury.
Beez
Jan 11 2008, 10:45 PM
How did Pete and Adam find Victoria?
How did Gabriel Gray become so tough?
Why did they kill off DL?
Creator
Jan 19 2008, 09:56 AM
Beez,
QUOTE (Beez @ Jan 11 2008, 10:45 PM)

How did Pete and Adam find Victoria?
Conceivably, using Molly's godsend.
How did Gabriel Gray become so tough?
Gabriel's driving passion of the 'evolutionary imperative' (..."even spiders eat their young!...) and his need to be special have made him ruthless and increasingly powerful.
Why did they kill off DL?
I don't have an answer for you.
Creator
Visitor27
Jan 19 2008, 10:30 AM
QUOTE
But how can you explain locked doors, dimmed lights, and mirrors in the police station?
I has been well established that Maury can control your brain and just be in the building, not the room, hell he put Molly in a coma from another state.
I think it's no out side of the realm of possibility that if Maury can leave a room and let Matt think Nathan is a guard attacking him, I wouldn't put it past him to make Angela think by locking the door she was keeping someone out from attacking her. He does play with the mind and everything it controls. I never quested that. The lights: could have been Maury from another part of the building, mind control, Adam was there helping him because he gets off on it.

QUOTE
How did Pete and Adam find Victoria?
Conceivably, using Molly's godsend.
How did Gabriel Gray become so tough?
Gabriel's driving passion of the 'evolutionary imperative' (..."even spiders eat their young!...) and his need to be special have made him ruthless and increasingly powerful.
I agree.
QUOTE
Why did they kill off DL?
I don't have an answer for you.
The Internet complained about him all last season, Niki needed to be out on her own, Heroes/comic book style "my power only causes death and destruction on my loved ones and it's all my fault" guilt trip.
In fact the least liked, but maybe not hated characters online last season were: Simone, Isaac and D.L. It seems to me D.L. had a turn around after his death or at the end of last season and by then it was too late.
I do not believe Gab Grey/Sylar has Candice's power. Much like the Haitian blocks Peter's empath ability so he can't absorb any other powers --flipping the switch so to speak -- the virus cut off Sylars core ability and he wasn't able to see how her power worked or/and apply it to his own DNA. B. Oh, damn --- evil guy with a chip on his shoulder can't have that power -- I direct you to future with dead Nathan number one:Five Years Gone
Creator
Jan 19 2008, 10:59 AM
Visitor27,
Maury's radius/locus of influence is localized. It is Molly's power that is remote or long distance capable. She, in reaching out to him, exposed herself to his godsend. She was safe from him until she reached out, consciously (per Matt's request to) or unconsciously (while dreaming), making herself vulnerable. Likewise, Matt's godsend is localized. Now, Pete, if able to use powers in combination, could combine Molly's and Matt's godsends to reach out and seriously touch somebody!
Creator
spiderfrommars
Jan 28 2008, 09:41 PM
Do we know where the virus specifically came from yet?
Patient87
Jan 29 2008, 01:21 AM
QUOTE (spiderfrommars @ Jan 29 2008, 06:41 AM)

Do we know where the virus specifically came from yet?
Victoria made it in order of Kaito/company i think
RotanevSitnem
Jan 29 2008, 04:23 AM
QUOTE (Patient87 @ Jan 29 2008, 09:21 AM)

Victoria made it in order of Kaito/company i think
Victoria altered it to Company order, strain 138 was put there under Kaito Nakamura's orders, although he and Victoria would've prefered to destroy it, he knew that the others wouldn't want that and could incur one or two reprisals.
The Shanti Virus was named after "Patient Zero" of that disease - Shanti Suresh, it was isolated and taken to be used, potentially, as an ability supressor (the Haitian wasn't working for them at that time).
spiderfrommars
Jan 29 2008, 10:43 AM
I'm just wondering if somehow shanti got the virus from something possibly while she was using her powers. We know that she was the fist to get the virus, but how did she get it?
Citizen
Jan 29 2008, 10:56 AM
QUOTE (spiderfrommars @ Jan 29 2008, 01:43 PM)

I'm just wondering if somehow shanti got the virus from something possibly while she was using her powers. We know that she was the fist to get the virus, but how did she get it?
We might get a graphic novel where Shanti eats a monkey and get infected with the virus
MrsGoogly
Jan 29 2008, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (spiderfrommars @ Jan 29 2008, 10:43 AM)

I'm just wondering if somehow shanti got the virus from something possibly while she was using her powers. We know that she was the fist to get the virus, but how did she get it?
Pure speculation:
I think the Company gave Shanti, Molly and the Haitian the virus.
Shanti - to get her Dad to work on his theories faster.
Molly - to lure Mohinder in.
The Haitian - to test both his loyalty and that MOhinder's blood would work on all infecteds.
BrainSalad
Jan 29 2008, 11:28 AM
I thought The Company got the virus from Shanti, seeing as she was the very first one to have it. I thought they saw the virus, while looking into special people, and saw something that could potentially stop people from using their powers, which would have been pretty helpful to them. Oh, and speaking of Shanti, what exactly was her power?
RotanevSitnem
Jan 29 2008, 04:20 PM
QUOTE (BrainSalad @ Jan 29 2008, 07:28 PM)

I thought The Company got the virus from Shanti, seeing as she was the very first one to have it. I thought they saw the virus, while looking into special people, and saw something that could potentially stop people from using their powers, which would have been pretty helpful to them. Oh, and speaking of Shanti, what exactly was her power?
Shanti Suresh was Patient Zero for that Power Suppressing Virus (Patient Zero = first known carrier of a disease), the company aquired it from her body.
KevinFTW
Jan 29 2008, 06:19 PM
I thought the Virus was random like the Pox. o.O
spiderfrommars
Jan 29 2008, 07:03 PM
QUOTE (KevinFTW @ Jan 29 2008, 09:19 PM)

I thought the Virus was random like the Pox. o.O
But even random things have some sort of begining. Theres scientifically no such thing as spontaneous generation.
Chances are its a mutated strain of some other existing virus or bacterial infection, seeing as I don't think that Mohinder's blood is a vaccine, because that would mean that it would contain some form of the virus in it to teach the body to get rid of it.
RotanevSitnem
Jan 30 2008, 03:31 AM
QUOTE (KevinFTW @ Jan 30 2008, 02:19 AM)

I thought the Virus was random like the Pox. o.O
To begin with, the Shanti Virus was random, but the company found her, extracted a sample of the virus and experimented with it. It was named after the first known case or the "patient zero".
Victoria Pratt was able to make at least 138 strains of the shanti virus in 1977 using her ability (genetic manipulation of viruses in the late 1970's?! not with the medical/scientific equipment of that time), it was one reason why some of the company founders split from the others.
MrsGoogly
Jan 30 2008, 03:40 AM
QUOTE (RotanevSitnem @ Jan 30 2008, 03:31 AM)

To begin with, the Shanti Virus was random, but the company found her, extracted a sample of the virus and experimented with it. It was named after the first known case or the "patient zero".
Thompson said that the only other case the Company were aware of apart from Molly was Shanti. That suggests to me that someone deliberately infected each girl. Otherwise why were there no known cases between Shanti and Molly? How did each girl contract the disease? Molly was born after Shanti had died so there is no connection between them at all.
amolion
Jan 30 2008, 04:36 AM
QUOTE (Citizen @ Jan 29 2008, 06:56 PM)

We might get a graphic novel where Shanti eats a monkey and get infected with the virus

spiderfrommars
Jan 30 2008, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (MrsGoogly @ Jan 30 2008, 06:40 AM)

Thompson said that the only other case the Company were aware of apart from Molly was Shanti. That suggests to me that someone deliberately infected each girl. Otherwise why were there no known cases between Shanti and Molly? How did each girl contract the disease? Molly was born after Shanti had died so there is no connection between them at all.
Molly and Shanti do have one connection.
Mohinder.
MrsGoogly
Jan 31 2008, 12:38 PM
QUOTE (spiderfrommars @ Jan 30 2008, 03:28 PM)

Molly and Shanti do have one connection.
Mohinder.
Exactly.
And the Company wanted the Lists and research made by both Sureshes. And the daughters of both of hem (alright, surrogate for Mohinder, but Molly's so cute I think they could anticipate Mohinder's response to her) contract a disease only Mohinder's blood can cure.
Huge coincidence!
BrainSalad
Jan 31 2008, 12:42 PM
Yeah, I agree with MrsGoogly on the Company, but I don't think Shanti's power was the virus. The virus takes away powers, otherwise you can hardly tell they have it until they really start dying... unless it's stated somewhere that that actually was her power. Or am I getting it wrong, RotanevSitnem?
spiderfrommars
Jan 31 2008, 01:08 PM
It might not be her power but it could have been some sort of byproduct of her power from using it improperly or too much or something weird like that.
Creator
Jan 31 2008, 01:20 PM
QUOTE (MrsGoogly @ Jan 31 2008, 12:38 PM)

Exactly.
And the Company wanted the Lists and research made by both Sureshes. And the daughters of both of hem (alright, surrogate for Mohinder, but Molly's so cute I think they could anticipate Mohinder's response to her) contract a disease only Mohinder's blood can cure.
Huge coincidence!

MrsGoogly,
Mohinder, in the case of his sister (Shanti) is not applicable. For, Mohinder was not yet born when Shanti fell victim to the deadly virus. But, perhaps his dad, as a geneticist, engineered the cure into his son's blood. And, perhaps Linderman realized or suspected this.
But, I don't see a suspicion, even an educated guess, as sufficient enough reason to warrant risking Molly's valuable (Company's HEB tracking system) life. Who knows?...
Creator
MrsGoogly
Feb 1 2008, 04:08 AM
QUOTE (Creator @ Jan 31 2008, 01:20 PM)

MrsGoogly,
Mohinder, in the case of his sister (Shanti) is not applicable. For, Mohinder was not yet born when Shanti fell victim to the deadly virus. But, perhaps his dad, as a geneticist, engineered the cure into his son's blood. And, perhaps Linderman realized or suspected this.
No, Mohinder had nothing to do with Shanti's virus. I think the Company gave her the virus to make Chandra Suresh investigate Heroes more, and become obsessed with them. The Company probably did not anticipate Chandra's plan to have another child to provide the cure for Shanti's virus, but were then overjoyed when he did because it meant they a) had a cure for the virus, and b ) could use Mohinder by manipulating him with regards to Molly.
Why did the Company have a picture of the Suresh family (Mama Suresh preganant with Mohinder to really nudge him along) in the files Mohinder was given on Molly? Surely the only reason would be to spark a light in his head? As Mohinder himself said, he's a geneticist - hardly the most qualified to help Molly. There must have been some other reason to bring him in.
QUOTE
But, I don't see a suspicion, even an educated guess, as sufficient enough reason to warrant risking Molly's valuable (Company's HEB tracking system) life. Who knows?...
Creator
As you said on another thread - they need not be risking Molly's life because they had Linderman nearby to save her should Mohinder fail.
Creator
Feb 1 2008, 06:03 AM
QUOTE (MrsGoogly @ Feb 1 2008, 04:08 AM)

No, Mohinder had nothing to do with Shanti's virus. I think the Company gave her the virus to make Chandra Suresh investigate Heroes more, and become obsessed with them. The Company probably did not anticipate Chandra's plan to have another child to provide the cure for Shanti's virus, but were then overjoyed when he did because it meant they a) had a cure for the virus, and b ) could use Mohinder by manipulating him with regards to Molly.
Why did the Company have a picture of the Suresh family (Mama Suresh preganant with Mohinder to really nudge him along) in the files Mohinder was given on Molly? Surely the only reason would be to spark a light in his head? As Mohinder himself said, he's a geneticist - hardly the most qualified to help Molly. There must have been some other reason to bring him in.
As you said on another thread - they need not be risking Molly's life because they had Linderman nearby to save her should Mohinder fail.
MrsGoogly,
You misunderstand. I accept response-ability for that and respond herewith. For, what I believe is that, while Linderman is alive all cases of Shanti virus near to home (among Company HEB's) are cured (certainly curable, anyway).
I believe that the virus is active but still relatively rare (not on a large epidemic level until an outbreak of deadly airborne Shanti virus #138). The Company has been researching it for decades. We know this.
Mohinder's sister Shanti was the first documented HEB to present with this disorder. We know this. The disease inhibits the godsend and eventually kills the host. We know this. Linderman has the power to heal HEB's with the deadly virus. We know this.
I believe that the disease was investigated for its use as a weapon by the Company but found to be too dangerous, too uncontrollable to harness and the deadly research was halted. But, the disease still remained active as a rare HEB contractible "in-the-wild" virus. And, that is why we still see HEB's presenting with the disease (the Haitian, Niki, and yes...Molly could all be victims of the "in-the-wild" Shanti virus). Certainly the Company would want to take advantage of and leverage itself with the unfortunate victims thereof, but I think that the victims may have contracted the disease naturally; and that the disease has possibly been dormant for a time but has rear its ugly head quite naturally once again (as diseases will). This is a viable scenario.
Do I believe the Company capable of deploying the virus for their own purposes? Yes! And they have (witness Sylar for example or even Monica). But, I'd rather think that they would not give their "tracking devise" the disease (and take "it" down for any reason) especially at such a critical time as when Molly contracted the virus. Would they take advantage of the situation? Definitely...especially with Daniel available to save the day. But, I think it may have been a 'convenient' coincidence and the Company took advantage of the situation [rather than quickly bring in their "tracking system's" maintenance man (Daniel)].
But, having said this, I still think that there is a possibility that you may be right, "Who knows..." And, that's my point. I apologise for any misunderstanding.
Creator
amolion
Feb 1 2008, 07:12 AM
the 'cure' in mohinder's blood was not engineered, it was a standard naturally occurring thing, as with most siblings.
Creator
Feb 1 2008, 10:30 AM
QUOTE (amolion @ Feb 1 2008, 07:12 AM)

the 'cure' in mohinder's blood was not engineered, it was a standard naturally occurring thing, as with most siblings.
amolion,
I appreciate your clearing this up for me. I suspected it as a possibility, but was not certain. Thank you. And, thank you for yet again advancing these discussions.
Creator
Imthehero
Feb 5 2008, 05:46 AM
Has it been proven that Linderman can cure diseases? from what we saw, he has only cured physical issues, where a disease is actually a living organism (even viri, to a degree). Perhaps he was unable to cure the shanti virus, because it seems to me if I had the ultimate tracking system, I wouldnt want to rely on some flake of a doctor that wants to play superhero/007 to fix it.
as for the company infecting shanti/molly, that seems iffy. First, it has been stated that they aquired a sample of the virus from shanti, so odds are they didnt give it to her before they even knew about it, and if they wanted a cute kid to pluck Mo's heartstrings, find a regular one and infect her, you dont go infecting your prize locating system on the "chance" Mo would want to help.
my biggest unanswered question though, is when will they realize that having Hiro quantum leaping about will eventually give them a plot hole big enough that even the layperson heroes fans will realize it? the space time thingy is too fragile to have clumsy Hiro dancing around all the time, he needs to stop interacting and stop going so far back.
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