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Rebel
You gotta admit it would be cool. What if Sylar busts into the Company and starts laying it to waste, frees all the lunatics, but Angela has the power or persuasion (remember her talking to Heidi and touching her hand) and she not only sends Sylar on a mission to round-up all the prisoners he let loose but is also the one who shot Nathan! After all, the timeline between what happened with Sylar and the Petrelli's could be totally different.

It would be a total mind--you know what on Sylar. And if he ever broke from her control you can just imagine what he'd do to her, it would make Mohinder's bloody nose look like a tap.

Am I out of my mind for thinking this is a possibility? After all, Tim didn't say Sylar was the ringleader of all the evil guys. So then Mama Petrelli would have TWO of the most powerful multi-powered SGs under her power. What would she do it with beyond finding the "Villians" Sylar let loose?
Begemot Geroi
I know how much the "Angela has the power of persuasion" theory has been tossed around on these forums. It's possible, but I won't believe it until I see it, or someone mentions it on the show. Also, Sylar being the one who shot Nathan -- I think that's also been debunked since Sylar was nowhere near Angela and/or Nathan before the shooting. He was still recuperating in an alley somewhere.
Rebel
QUOTE (Begemot Geroi @ Feb 28 2008, 06:39 PM) *
I know how much the "Angela has the power of persuasion" theory has been tossed around on these forums. It's possible, but I won't believe it until I see it, or someone mentions it on the show. Also, Sylar being the one who shot Nathan -- I think that's also been debunked since Sylar was nowhere near Angela and/or Nathan before the shooting. He was still recuperating in an alley somewhere.



We don't know that the timeline is the same for Sylar and the Petrelli's. That was left very much up in the air as far as I know. I mean Mohinder, Bob and Elle are all over the place and are the only persons linking all the different stories of the show. I don't see how anyone can keep an accurate timeline. So, yeah, I think its still possible for Sylar to be the one to have shot Nathan. Robotically hypnotized by Angela to hunt down the "Villians" he let loose.

As I said in my intro the timeline for Sylar shooting up and the timeline for Nathan getting shot may be months or days different. We don't know. They are only shown happening within the same show NOT AT THE SAME TIME necessarily.

Go back and look at the episode with Heidi in it you will see Angela do her touchy persuasion thing. Its there to be seen.
Raekon
QUOTE (Rebel @ Feb 29 2008, 06:01 AM) *
We don't know that the timeline is the same for Sylar and the Petrelli's. That was left very much up in the air as far as I know. I mean Mohinder, Bob and Elle are all over the place and are the only persons linking all the different stories of the show. I don't see how anyone can keep an accurate timeline. So, yeah, I think its still possible for Sylar to be the one to have shot Nathan. Robotically hypnotized by Angela to hunt down the "Villians" he let loose.

As I said in my intro the timeline for Sylar shooting up and the timeline for Nathan getting shot may be months or days different. We don't know. They are only shown happening within the same show NOT AT THE SAME TIME necessarily.

Go back and look at the episode with Heidi in it you will see Angela do her touchy persuasion thing. Its there to be seen.

Only because she touched Heidi it doesn't mean that she used a power. dry.gif
Other than that she asked heidi if she can depend on her support or not.
She never said "you must go/leave" or anything similar. It was heidis decision to leave.

A Writer also confirmed that Peter already used Angelas Power in one of the episodes and the only power we didn't knew where it came from yet was his astral projection in the future with the ability to even get things (the poster) with him back to where he was (Adam told him that he never left the room).

Many thought also that it might be the dreaming power but this one obviously came from Charles.
Begemot Geroi
QUOTE (Raekon @ Feb 29 2008, 01:05 AM) *
Only because she touched Heidi it doesn't mean that she used a power. dry.gif

Agreed. And as far as I know, Peter hasn't used the power of persuasion by touch or whatever, though I know it's been said that he's used Angela's power already.
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A Writer also confirmed that Peter already used Angelas Power in one of the episodes and the only power we didn't knew where it came from yet was his astral projection in the future with the ability to even get things (the poster) with him back to where he was (Adam told him that he never left the room).
Angela's power is probably prophetic dreaming or some sort of precognition.
QUOTE (Raekon @ Feb 29 2008, 01:05 AM) *
Only because she touched Heidi it doesn't mean that she used a power. dry.gif

Agreed. And as far as I know, Peter hasn't used the power of persuasion by touch or whatever, though I know it's been said that he's used Angela's power already.
OneOfMany
QUOTE (Rebel @ Feb 28 2008, 10:01 PM) *
We don't know that the timeline is the same for Sylar and the Petrelli's. That was left very much up in the air as far as I know. I mean Mohinder, Bob and Elle are all over the place and are the only persons linking all the different stories of the show. I don't see how anyone can keep an accurate timeline. So, yeah, I think its still possible for Sylar to be the one to have shot Nathan. Robotically hypnotized by Angela to hunt down the "Villians" he let loose.

As I said in my intro the timeline for Sylar shooting up and the timeline for Nathan getting shot may be months or days different. We don't know. They are only shown happening within the same show NOT AT THE SAME TIME necessarily.
I don't know how you can draw this conclusion or ignore the evidence. You only need to look at Mohinder's "storyline" to see that the events at the end of the Volume are taking place at nearly simultaneous moments. Mohinder interacts with Noah, Elle, Bob, West, Claire, Monica, Molly, Matt, Nathan, the Haitian, Niki, Maya, and Sylar. These interactions force a specific time-line for the set of events in Volume 2.

Besides, your speculation doesn't make any sense. Angela controlled Sylar to kill Nathan? Kill her own son? I wouldn't put it past her but c'mon! She says, "You realize you've opened Pandora's Box." or something close to that effect. She's basically stating, "You killed my son. Prepare to die." Can you draw a different meaning out of that statement?

Okay, maybe not "Prepare to die." That's just a little "Princess Bride" humor.
Rebel
QUOTE (OneOfMany @ Mar 9 2008, 02:53 PM) *
I don't know how you can draw this conclusion or ignore the evidence. You only need to look at Mohinder's "storyline" to see that the events at the end of the Volume are taking place at nearly simultaneous moments. Mohinder interacts with Noah, Elle, Bob, West, Claire, Monica, Molly, Matt, Nathan, the Haitian, Niki, Maya, and Sylar. These interactions force a specific time-line for the set of events in Volume 2.


What made me think the time-lines for the characters might not be simultaneous is the Verne FilmFest "Villians" Video. Noah is in a cell when all hell breaks loose at the Company. If he's back with them again, it may be they're punishing him by making him live in a cell when he isn't doing a job for them. But from the video it appears he's escaping, possibly with Elle's help.

The way things are edited could mean to fool us as to the time in which things are happening. Probably not. But it could. The Niki, Sylar, Mohinder, Monica, Maya, Micha, Molly, Elle timeline might be staggered by days or weeks from the timeline belonging to Nathan, Peter, Angela, HRG, Claire, Wes, Lyle, Mr. Muggles, Sandra.

Not likely but possible.

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Besides, your speculation doesn't make any sense. Angela controlled Sylar to kill Nathan? Kill her own son? I wouldn't put it past her but c'mon! She says, "You realize you've opened Pandora's Box." or something close to that effect. She's basically stating, "You killed my son. Prepare to die." Can you draw a different meaning out of that statement?

Okay, maybe not "Prepare to die." That's just a little "Princess Bride" humor.


Hello! This was the woman who was going to sacrifice Peter--her youngest son for her eldest. This was the woman who told Matt how to kill Peter! "Right through the head!" Remember?

If Angela thought Nathan was about to do something detrimental to or possibly risk the future and lives of her grand-children, like reveal the existence "Special" evolved humans ,yeah, she might have Nathan shot if she thought it would stop him.

She was going to allow the destruction of most of New York, for crying out loud! Angela does what she thinks is "right".
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