Yeah, yeah, we heard from Molly the Bogeyman was worse than Sylar. Fuddy little Maury scared no one but Molly.

But that appears is about to change:


According to Tim Kring And Jeph Loeb:
"Sylar were only the tip of the iceberg" in terms of morally corrupt people with superpowers."

You can listen to full interview here:
Collider SYLAR TIP OF ICEBERG

Known Villains are so far:

Daphne (Speedster) V.S. Hiro

Jesse (unknown) V.S. Peter

Knox (Super Strength) V.S. Monica

Adam V.S. Hiro

Sylar + HRG against ALL other VILLIANS ?


While the whole Daphne/Hiro thing looks more like a possible romantic comedy.

If Sylar does set the Villians loose I can see Mamma Petrelli wanting to make him clean up the mess he made.

using multi-powered Sylar to go after those Villians while HRG and the Haitian hold his leash.


But what's worse than Sylar?A multi-powered serial killer and possible Cannibal?


Any ideas?

Possible cannibal? Oh, he's definitely a cannibal. After all, where do all those brains go?..but that's another topic

You don't get much worse than Sylar, but two things occur to me: A person even more powerful than Sylar (a new absorber, perhaps), or a group of people with special abilities that are even more morally bankrupt than the somewhat collapsing Company.

Sylar and HRG working together? How in the blue hell is that going to happen? Sylar wants to eat HRG's precious daughter's brains, and HRG was the guy that caught Sylar and subjected him to all sorts of tests and studies and would eventually have killed him. These two hate each other's guts...if they were to work together, it'd make great TV seeing how they work out their differences while hunting the Villains

I'm as shocked at the idea as everyone but its what the Eonline lady tattled. So take it for what its worth. HRG's new best pal. Hard to believe how they're gonna pull it off. Does make you want to tune in though.

Yeah, an evil Peter (absorber) would be pretty bad.
I guess all we have to do really is imagine a rapist with powers or a Serial Killer who's only interest is killing and kills normals as well as regular humans on a larger scale than Sylar, like John Wayne Gacy. I think he killed like a hundred people.

Think of pedophiles with powers and suddenly your skin begins to crawl.

I think Knox, who appears to have super-strength, he punches through a cop's chest in the Verne video, is a gang leader and Monica is going to tangle with him. She didn't do so well her first time out. I wonder how she becomes Batwoman?

But, yeah, I could see some of them forming a kind of Super Powered Mafia.

But who would be the big cheese of that? Maybe there is somewhere a more seasoned, more wanting to "rule the world" Stalin or Hitler-esque Super-Duper Sylar character--though I thought that was who Sylar was becoming.

I wouldn't say the Company is totally morally bankrupt after all they are trying to act as a Law Enforcement Agency at least where the Villains are concerned and trying to protect (though illegally) the rest of society from the worst of the worst.

My experience tells me there is always a worse than. Worse than Sylar is definitely do-able.

Sylar's mean and enjoys killing and seemed to have great enjoyment in torturing Surresh--but then Surresh seemed to enjoy doing the same to him previously . Sylar may not naturally be a brutal sadist, though Maya would probably feel differently on that score. Emotionally brutal and manipulative is one thing. He never beat her up.

So say what you will about Sylar as a killing machine, he's not a brutal sexual predator. He didn't rape Maya or Molly or Surresh for that matter. And in fact, seems more inclined to be a seducer than a brute. It may seem like splitting hairs. But as anyone who's been in a prison can tell you, criminals have their own hierarchy, rapists and pedophiles are on the lowest rung.

So yeah, I guess there is worse than Sylar.

I like the idea of Mafia Heroes - sort of the anti-Company!

But I too thought Sylar was pretty bad - killing, torturing, absolutely no remorse whatsoever, and he does icky things with brains.

By now we still haven't seen Sylar as a real antagonist. He was built up as such in the first half of S1 but then the bomb became the main issue of the season and Sylar was more kinda like a "third party", one of the three "candidates". And in S2 he only played a supporting role. So actually I would like to see him as the actual "Big Bad" once, before they have him colaborating with HRG and present us someone even worse.

I think he was S1's Big Bad twofold - once as the crazy serial killer, and once as the potential bomb!

They need to take him in a new direction - which this certainly is!

I hear your point and have to agree. In fact, I was hoping for that this season. I was definitely hoping for a Legion of Doom thing where Sylar somehow manages to bully and manipulate the worst of the worst under his aegis to cooperate with him.

How? Why? Why to Rule the World of Course! Ahhhhahahahaa hahah ha..heh..Well, that's not gonna happen, at least in the next volume but that doesn't mean it won't and that the Heroes and Villains won't square off at a future date with Sylar the main antagonist.

Besides how could HRG possibly really control Sylar if not through some coercion like mind control or promise of more brains? And won't he resent that? Till finally he figures a way to slip his leash (HRG) and muzzle (the Haitian). And then all hell breaks lose, right?

We'll see. I have hope.

Yeah, but we haven't seen Sylar really be a thug and real sicko sadistic like in the film "Seven"

He doesn't randomly grab non powered or even powered kids, women, or men off the streets (except Mohinder) stick them in basements, drinking their blood ("the original Nightstalker movie), sexually assaulting, and torturing them for months on end, enjoying their suffering.

No he kills them quickly to get to a powers swirly goodness.

And as I said. Where talking degrees of evil here. Our penal code is based on it.

I'm not saying he won't eventually end up as a true thug, but within his purview of acquiring powers, he's behaved, with the exception of killing them, towards women, as a gentleman.

Though he certainly baited HRG about possibly sexually assaulting Claire as well as killing her. Yet it hasn't been shown he attempted this.

This really cracked me up. Yes, other than all that murder, he is a true gentleman. I LOVE IT. Anyway, he did fling Mrs. Bennet into a glass cabinet. I don't see why that was necessary or how it would have helped him get a power.

Sylar is the ultimate 'sideline' character--he isn't out front, but he still needs to be remembered. He could potentially impact so many things, so many characters. The fact that he's recently regained his considerable power only heightens that sense of "what's he gonna do now?"

Peter will try to find out who shot his beloved bro "Flying Man", Matt may help out. Suresh will try to hide Molly and perhaps Maya from his psycho arch-enemy, w/ help from the Company and maybe HRG. Micah and Monica will try to build new lives from the ashes of his mother's supposed death. Claire will try to lead a normal life in Cali, and attempt to reconcile w/ her flying bo West.

Most of the characters' paths through at least the first couple chapters of S3 will be largely defined, but Sylar's is not. While the others' paths are somewhat linear, Sylar's is as fluid as water--and what he does will impact what the Heroes do...as well as the Villains, when they make their appearances.

And Rebel...about Sylar and Maya...don't forget the plain fact that he shot her in the throat. He might not have hit her, but once she became aware that he was a friggin' monster, he got rough, kinda like a cornered rat.

There probably will be criminals w/ super powers set loose by someone...in fact, the person that sets some loose and groups them into a cohesive unit will have to have Sylar-scale, maybe even Peter-scale power. (And yes, I think that right now, Peter is stronger than Sylar. These things have a way of changing, however--Sybrows might eat a few more brains and tip the scales his way again.)

Yeah, he behaved like cornered rat and an over confident FAT HEADED IDIOT! Thinking Maya would remain a doormat once he showed his fangs and claws.

All I'm saying is from what we've seen he isn't your common off the street thug. He has some idea of how to be a gentleman.

Still if he wanted Maya to stay dead he would've shot Molly and had the drug tested on her. If we all agree he's that kind of monster, which I think he is, but he didn't. The "delicious powers" were worth trying to keep around. And Maya is easy on the eyes.




I don't like being quoted out of context . I was referring to Sylar in relation to Sexual Predators. Not his general behavior, genius.

Peter will absorb any abilities that Darth Sylar has at their next encounter (if he hasn't already gained them), so any advantage he might have will disappear when he gets within a certain distance of Peter.

Only if Peter gets the hang of said power in record time. Anyways sometimes a few seconds is all you need for an advantage.

What happens though if Sylar surrounds himself with redundant Villians with who individually have the same powers as Peter?



Unlike first season, where we saw how character impacted every other character or mostly did. That wasn't the case in 2nd season. It simply wasn't as tightly plotted as the first.

And it was very apparent Sylar's absence on the screen was keenly felt for the first two episodes. They sat there like rocks.



We shall see.

But Claire is likely to be with Nathan giving her blood to save his life.




I hope so.

But what Villians do get released will determine a lot of what happens.

And I just rewatched "Fallout" and HRG tells Claire "there other people like the the man who tried get your power" HRG is not merely referring to the Company but to other existing or Potential SYLARS!

Just because he appears to have no sexual appetite doesn't mean he's not a monster. I do wonder if a love interest for him would have to be some sort of crazed monster lady - anyone slightly weak will be preyed upon.

He has killed people in the most horrific ways and shown absolutely no remorse.

His obssession with certain characters has always interested me - Mohinder and Mr Bennet (I don't actually think he would kill either of these guys; he's saving Mr Bennet for the time he can tell him Claire's dead) and Peter.

Knoxs power is not super strength, he can change parts of his body to hard (Indestructable?) metal like Colossus from X-Men. It was said that he is as worse or worser than sylar before and that he will kill micah (another wasted character from the sanders/hawkins family) and that will be the "tip of the iceberg" in his terms. I don't know how they wanna do this but I surely involves Monica and maybe even Nana?

Maury was and still is worser than Sylar because Sylar wouldn't have a chance against him and in my opinion they used him as a weakling towards Matt only to push Matts character further and make him more interesting. -.-

To be honest I wouldn't like Maya to get with Sylar again cause it would destroy the personality of her character and the development they put in it. :/
I'll rather would like to see her stick in the house of M and maybe try to defend them when the company goes down.
I read that she will be more powerful too? Cool! I hope she will be able to direct her poison into individual targets at will instead of the area effect that would wipe everything around the town or at least the neighboorhood.

"Peter will absorb any abilities that Darth Sylar has at their next encounter (if he hasn't already gained them), so any advantage he might have will disappear when he gets within a certain distance of Peter."

I seem to remember that the technician told HRG, when Sylar was the Company's captive, that Sylar didn't register any abilities on his DNA other than TK. Peter's power basically rearranges his DNA to copy that of the person closest to him.

That means that while he was able to absorb TK immediately from Sylar, Peter can't absorb any others from him until Sylar actually uses them around him--a possibility later on, but something that hasn't happened yet.

Rebel--More people like Sylar would be totally sick, imho. I do agree that the Company probably has plenty of dangerous men and women stashed away somewhere, either in Texas or in upstate New York (NY seems more likely to me). However, I don't see Sylar himself setting them free--he works alone, always has. Peter certainly won't.

Either a Villain sets the others loose, or there already are Villains, never locked up by the Company, loose in the world (this Knox guy is one such example). Both seems real likely...gosh, I can't wait for S3.

Y'know I thought I said he was a monster. I guess I didn't. Of course Sylar's a monster. I was comparing him to other possible monsters.

I was making a comparison between sexual predators, sadists/torturers and serial murderers, and pedophiles and trying to see where Sylar fits in the grey scale between dark grey and absolute black.

What differentiates Sylar just a little bit to the Grey and the Gray side is the fact he isn't a sexual predator.

By reading that list you can tell they are all monsters, yet they are different and in our penal code they are treated differently. And being being influenced by the larger society the Company must also, to some, degree be influenced by this.

I didn't say Sylar wasn't sadistic. Just not sadistic the way the guy in "Seven" was sadistic. I think that's my bench mark for really uber evil sadism. Grabbing people off the streets and stuffing them in out of the way places and torturing them or breaking into their homes and doing the same. That one of the heights of monstrosity for me. Preying on victims for the sake of sadism and prolonging someone's agony for one's own enjoyment. Its so terrible for the victim because there is no release, there's no bribing a tormentor out of it because they're enjoying it.

Other than the time Sylar sent Sandra into a glass cabinet and the time he was torturing Mohinder, and clearly enjoying it each time. Its the only time I could make a "Seven" comparison in regard to Sylar being sadistic. Its something he clearly wants to continue doing to Mohinder once he gets Peter out of the way.

However, even here, no sexual assaults occurred--yet.

If that happens then he's totally black and there's really nowhere to go with character other get him therapy from a multi-powered therapist who can try to rehabilitate him. (Tony Soprano style. How'd that work out?)

Who can blame people for thinking there's something kinky going on there that fuels some parts of Mylar fan fiction.

I just had a minor epiphany. Sylar's sadism is proportional to his powers. When he didn't have it his sadism was restricted to really turning the knife in Alejandro's chest. Proving I suppose he has the tendency.


Sadism should never be indulged without a pre-arranged safety word like "banana" (Family Guy) reference.

Sylar's a serial murderer first. He really doesn't mince words with most of his victims, especially those like Ted Sprague and Maya, ones who can do considerable damage very quickly. He acts sadistic towards Mohinder because his father helped Gabriel Gray realize his power, and helped him track the first of his victims (unwittingly). He's frankly fascinated by Peter--you can bet he's itching to open that skull up to see how Peter's power works. As for HRG, it's mostly the wariness and anger of a once-captured beast. He hates Bennet, but doesn't think he's worth killing unless he gets in the way.

In short, he's mainly a murderer, sadistic towards certain characters, and he falls squarely in the black simply because he's commited the unpardonable act of taking another's life many times over.

The thing about Sylar is that he thinks he has a reason for doing what he does. He's rationalised it all out. He's really very uncomplicated - which is why I think they should give him a genuine emotional attachment, because the episode with his mother was just brilliant.

As for torture - I think poor Mrs Walker is the worst he's ever done.





I think he likes Mohinder. He was the one person Sylar turned to when Sylar panicked about being the bomb.



I think he hates Peter. He recognises, probably more than anyone else, that he and Peter are two halves of the same whole. And Sylar wants to be the "good" one - though that's a warped vision in his own head.



He does hate Bennet, and I think he wants to hurt him. I don't think Sylar will kill Mr B until Claire is dead. That would be the most effective way to hurt Mr Bennet. So what he might do is let Mr B shoot him, heal up, enabling Mr B to recognise what he's done, and then kill him.

Please site your source for Knox's power because its not listed in the Heroes Wiki or any other source I've seen. We don't know what it is yet. I only said it may only be super strength because he punched his fist through a cop's body. It may be something else like acid. According to the Heroes wiki, it may be phasing, or "Induced Acidity". He burnt through the cop's body.



While I agree Maury had potential, if you will, I think Sylar is very cunning and skilled at taking other Special People's powers and I think he would have made sure Maury never saw him coming before he took his power. I think you're right though, Maury was merely there for Matt.



Oh, I don't think it would destroy her character. I think these two are just too hot together to throw away. Besides Sylar still wants her powers. While I think she'll defend the house of M against him, I do think they'll get these two together one way or another. First a battle then bed with many episodes of angst in between the two. That's what I want for Xmas.

I do think Maya is going to get better control of her power. She has to.

Okay, what's worse a multiple murderer? Or a multiple murderer who rapes? You see what I'm getting at. They are both black but yet they're are shades of black--except in real world color terms there has to be less than black because there is nothing blacker than black.

Our legal system differentiates and so do we. Its just the way we function.

That's all I'm saying.

Well it seems to me that the interview hints at someone being more morally corrupt and viscious than Sylar.

When it comes to the people that Sylar has killed and how he kills them he is definitely hard to beat.

However, Sylar also has some serious issues. The man is disconnected from the world and I would go as far as to say mentally/emotionally disabled. This guy could plea insanity in a hearing and get away with it.

If Sylar were to find something to connect him to everyone else, to make him feel less isolated then there is a chance that we could see some sort of change in his character. I'm not saying he is going to be the hero of tomorrow but his world is open to being rocked in a profound way.

Anyway, I think what they mean is that there are going to be characters who are completely sane, characters who have lived normal(ish) one lifetime lives, who are just completely morally bankrupt. Who kill just for the fun of it. It doesn't require any real reason at all to them, other than recreation.

That is, in essence, worse than Sylar who kills to gain something and because in his mind he sees something wrong with all of these people. He truly believes that. We may know it's sick and demented but if you really believe that Sylar has some mental issues, which I think we have clearly seen, then he doesn't realize it.

Should he be shown mercy because of that? Hell no. I say take him apart the first chance you get no matter.

But there is a difference and I think that is what Kring and Co. were hinting at.

Good post. and I love the photo. It looks like a Man Ray photo. Is It?

Interesting since one of Sylar's rationalizations for killing Specials is that they don't deserve their powers.

I believe at somepoint early on in volume three Sylar realizes that he might not have made the best choice in releasing 12 people who are worse than him. Even though Sylar has done bad things and killed some people to gain their abilities, ill bet the 12 people who espace from the company don't care who gets hurt as long as they get what they want. If events get bad enough, which im sure they will then Sylar may just have to team up with someone from the company to catch one or more of the people he helped let out in the first place.

Really its not that hard to see what could be worse than Sylar, just take any person with ill intent and give them an ability that could be abused or rather be used to abuse other people, animals, plants, the whole world.

I know who I would like. But who do you think that would be? Anyone new?



That might not have been torture. I mean he might have just been throwing everything he could at her to pin her. All I remember is that the whoever the officious red headed women is who's above Audrey says something like "It took like three men to lift and pin her up."

Torture is pain delivered over time. I'm sure it was painful, if it were real. Either way I certainly wouldn't want to feel it.



Mohinder is honest--at least, about scientific information. And because as Bob says Mohinder has integrity and a sense of right that always points "true north." He's the person most likely to lean in the direction of "Truth", as he knows it, and act on it.

But remember how surprised Sylar was that Mohinder had been deceiving him about where the blood serum was, "You and I have trust issues, Doctor.

I think he thinks of Mohinder as the one most likely to know what is going on scientifically, but after this last experience, trust, not so much.




And probably thinks of him as the upscale "do-gooder" who never had to work to get powers the way Sylar has had to sweat , scheme and plan over it.

In short, as a borough brat, Sylar has Class Envy.



Now, that's our sadistic Sylar.




Where trying to define what that is. "Ill intent" and "abuse" can mean a lot of things. What do you mean?

The question still is: What makes someone "Worse than Sylar?"

Could'nt Adam with this desire to wipe out most of humanity be worse than Sylar? A murderer who kills only ten versus someone killing tens of millions.

I just had another 1am ephiphany.

If kept on a leash and muzzled and let out for "walkies" under special circumstances. Sylar might function as more "hands on" Hannibal Lecter .

Someone who knows how the other Villians think! And would have keen insight into where they would be and what they would be doing.

To answer the question of "What would make someone worse than Sylar?" is not difficult. Sylar kills so that he might become more powerful. His primary targets are HEB's (other specials). There will be non-HEB collateral damage as he pursues his goal. But, with a villain who would kill indiscriminately, targeting specials and non-specials alike, to achieve their goals (especially the non-specials) they could and would be considered more villainous (worse) than even Sylar.

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Darth Sylar was willing to kill Ando as he was provoking him with a weapon, that's how it starts, first it's killing someone because they are a threat, then he starts letting off his aggressive abilities and it's "sa ello ta ma lil fren!" time. A few more abilities taken and he might get to that level of psychosis. They might as well try and turn him into a super-powered Charles Manson!

Do numbers of people killed or maimed matter?

Then that would make Adam worse than Sylar if he had succeeded.

If Adam returns I think we can assume that goal of killing off most of humanity still applies.



Sylar, is as likely to kill someone who annoys him (Maya) as easily as someone who stands up to him who can't possibly do any real damage, like Ando or anyone that stands in his way.

Which doesn't make someone like Adam or possibly Knox worse than he is. Each would do the same and Adam has.

I was hoping a highup Company Man might be Gabriel's brother. It parallels nicely with Peter and Nathan. And it would be cool if Gabriel's brother was not a Hero yet was a powerful man in the Heroesverse anyway.

I thini a romance for Sylar is a no-no. Too Sid and Nancy. And too open to manipulation by either side.

Adam Monroe's first thing on his mind is making Hiro suffer for putting him in the coffin (on top of Yaeko's tainted love) and start targeting his sister (he was buried in the same area as Kaito, so she isn't too hard and too far to find)...Unless he knows of another way to bring suffering to humanity.

Darth Sylar's mental stability depends on how many abilities he has taken and how many die on the way, look at the formula below:

Darth Sylar's mental stability = 1 - (powers taken / people killed), once he gets less close to 0, he is at the "sa ello ta ma lil fren" psychosis level.

So far it's 1 - (10 / 22) = 0.54, I would class this as "can pass for human, but can become unstable and bring death to those who threaten me or those I need", which could make Dirty Harry look passive by comparison. In any case, Noah Bennet knows that more abilities taken by Darth Sylar results in increased mental instability for him.

Sylar is mainly just after people who have abilities, if someone who does not have an ability gets in his way he has no problem killing them. However someone who is worse than Sylar is not just out to hurt other people, let alone just people with abilities, infact their goal might not even be to target people. Anyone worse than Sylar takes actions no matter the cost to get what they want, if this means burning down a rainforest and killing 10,000 people along with large numbers of animals then they would do it.

From all the known victims of Sylar, Candice had the worst death. -.-
Since he couldn't scalp her with TK, he used a small part of the coffee mug and opened the part of her lower head with it so he can check the part of the brain he has to look at while she was still consious and feeling every single second while the others died fast. I know he did the same with brian but he was already dead through the strike with the sculpture so in his case he got lucky. Candice didn't had so much luck.

While Adam will probably want to take revenge on Hiro--he may kill Hiro's sister--which is why Hiro now has to run the company (or Adam sends a bride to do it) Adam still has a larger goal he was trying to accomplish and which we have no reason to think he's changed his mind about.

Last we saw him, Sylar, put getting his powers back before having breakfast --and he said he was starving. He was last seen first fleeing Elle, then shooting up in alley to get his powers back. Which do you think he'll do first? Blow up most of New York or get breakfast? Now that Sylar has his powers back there's nothing to stop him from using his nuke power, if he were Adam, he'd use it immediately.

But Sylar, as far as we know, doesn't want to kill 93 % of earth's population. Adam does. But Adam has been prevented.

Sylar is dangerous, but more to other Specials and the chance encounter than to the larger population--UNLESS he kills an illusionist like Candice, takes their power then kills Nathan or another likely Presidential candidate.

I still see Adam as potentially more dangerous, because he was a General, has a goal of genocide and seems to be able to easily manipulate other Special people. Even though he doesn't have Sylar's powers.

But what if he romanced a female Sylar?

Raekon: What makes you think Candice was still alive? I never got that feeling, but that would be truly vile...

About Adam..the man was BURIED ALIVE. He can't escape from that coffin..even RCR can't save you from needing to breathe, and Adam would either suffocate or starve to death.

To sum up...forget about Adam

Rotamev's insanity meter is a very good indicator of Sylar's sanity level, imho. He's a few people away from going off the deep end, unless he decides enough is enough and stops taking other's godsends, which under the present climate is highly unlikely.

I think he's going to grab some grub first. After all, you can't run on an empty stomach

She was looking at him when he stepped over her and was only lying(spelled right O_o) on the floor with a bit blood coming out of the head part he hit with the coffee mug.
That already shows that she must have felt and "lived" it out until she either couldn't take the pain anymore (heart attack?) or died in the process when he were cutting in her head.

The thing that bugged me a lot in that scene is that it was obvious that candice could had done something to prevent her death either by making illusions to distract him until she can stand up or just stand up and kick the crap out of him the way she fought with Nikki. I mean he could barely walk and was definately not the stronger at this moment. However... the writers blow it once again making it look as if she wouldn't be able to stand up and let her wait on the floor for her slow and horrible death to come. Oh well..

I hadn't seen that. O_o Need to watch for that when it comes on TV here.



... and revive seconds later, only to die again a short while later, if the Graphic Novels are right (and they're considered canon). In one of them, it's said Adam has already died and come back to life numerous times in the coffin. He's alive. And he'll come back.

I've wondered several times if something similar happened to Peter in that container - the Haitian wiped his memory in New York, and between that and Cork there's at least a week of sea on a freight ship, unless I'm mistaken. Not the nicest place to be for a shirtless guy (in February) who probably didn't bring a lunch packet.

Yes, according to the graphic novel The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei, Adam has died and regenerated more times than he can count in the coffin.

...And is expecting his Bride to Come and get him according to the GN

The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei


Which means he will be up and about sooner than you realize, 2hededlizrd, and would most likely be the one who frees all the other "Villains" (or instructs his Bride to) since he helped Found the Company, brought the principles together and knows where everything is and were all the weaknesses are (just because he was held for 30 years doesn't mean he didn't manage to escape from time to time from it and had to be recaptured).

Thus Adam would once again be working his evil with an eye towards the destruction of most of humanity. Which is what HRG with apparently, Sylar leashed and muzzled in tow, is trying to do. (How?) Should be fun! Can't Wait!

Add the very simple rule of television: If you ain't seen no body, he ain't dead.

GS,

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His latest wife is coming for him, he is listed as a cast member (unless it is a few flashback scenes) and yes, he can't get out without help.

Adam Monroe's long term plan is to make humanity suffer, since Hiro buried him alive and he is near where his sister works, he might decide to take a brief diversion from this and kill her to cut Hiro deep, give him a message that he isn't finished yet.

"Send a thief to catch a thief"... Using Sylar's creatively feindish brain, the Company is possibly hoping to catch Adam as well as Adam's new found "friends" and allies of destruction.

There is a new video where Sylar says "Hello" to Claire.Sylar and Claire

I'm a little worried because even though Sylar is bad there is someone who shoots blue fire

I spoilered it just incase no one knows.

Check these new trailers if you want to:

http://www.heroesrevealed.com/news/heroes-...w-promo-videos/

If you go through it frame by frame, it is clear that is it something far worse. The detail of whatever is being shot out can be seen really well on a tv for those who have it saved.

Yeah I had a feeling it was something worse because in the forground it looks like there is a burnt face or something. Still it looks like blue fire, maybe a step up from the regular version? Well whatever it is we may find out in September.

Though i cant really go frame by frame, it sucks on the laptop. But this ****** me off because it is on TV and I have not seen it yet.

Ooooo! I looooved SID & NANCY kissing while garbage falls on them.

I don't care if its nutty as hell. I'm a big fan of the Harley and Joker relationship as nutty and abusive as it is.

I'm not looking for mental health here. I'm looking not to be bored.

I think there's some talk about Sylar being either Angela's or Arthur Petrelli's illegitimate child.




The one thing I have to disagree with you, Alexfveditor, is that Sylar would have an epiphany all on his own and think he made a mistake unleashing the Villians.

First, from the release of some of these videos, it looks like Sylar is already captured and incapacitated when the Prison Break occurs--maybe it could be a mis-direction. Originally, I would have bet it was Sylar releasing them. Now I'm not so sure and think it might be a Confederate of Adam's doing it.

Either way, I just don't think Sylar is capable of a pang of conscience. At least, he's never shown it before. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but if I am, I wish someone would tell me when and where.

Sylar did paint the walls of his inner sanctum in his Queens apartment with "Father forgive my sins" with his bloody hands. But that was still earlier in his career. Now he's a pretty hardened serial killer obsessed with power acquisition.

So I don't seeing him have a change of heart on his own. If Sylar and HRG team up, its gotta be under some sort of duress for Sylar (and HRG, too).

Something has to happen to Sylar. Maybe Matt gets into his mind and changes him. Maybe that's how Matt ends up in a desert. He's inside Sylar's mind and trapped there.

I thought Sylar might have some pangs of conscience in regard to Maya, but that wouldn't make him join up with HRG. What would?