Since Peter has the ability to absorb the abilities while only briefly in contact with someone of power, what would happen if he suddenly decided to start taking on any number of abilities.
If Peter got a hold of the list of people and addresses Mohinder posseses and with Hiro's ability, he could travel to every person on this list (alive or dead). Current dead individuals would probably not possess any power, but if they were on Mohinder's list, Peter could simply travel through time itself to come upon these persons of interest. Since Peter also has the ability to become invisible, he could simply walk up to them and copy their ability without ever changing any part of the timeline. Thus, Peter could become invincible and invulnerable - especially if he began to use these powers in conjunction with each other.
Any thoughts as to what may happen if Peter did this?
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First, I don't think it would occur to Peter - it's seems a sort of free time activity he hasn't had much time for in recent months.
Second, I think taking so many powers would still affect him, and I'm not sure he'd want to find out if he fell into a coma again or not...
It's a nice hypothesis, and it's something that might happen if Peter ever ends up in level 5 or some such, but I don't think it's a situation he'd actively seek.
Second, I think taking so many powers would still affect him, and I'm not sure he'd want to find out if he fell into a coma again or not...
It's a nice hypothesis, and it's something that might happen if Peter ever ends up in level 5 or some such, but I don't think it's a situation he'd actively seek.
This was something I always thought was amusing to think about.
With the powers he has now, I guess even more easily with Molly's "clairevoyance" power, he could not only teleport to people, but easily go back and forward in time and gain any number of powers. He could essentially become like a god.
That said, I think that's a part of what the first season revolved around. He didn't really have any control over his powers, so absorbing so many meant that he would pass out and not really be able to control them. And he exploded because he simply absorbed so many that he couldn't control any of them in particular.
I think that they'll eventually begin to write it in that he'll get much better at using his initial empathic mimicry power. So if he can get good at it, he may eventually be able to absorb a lot of them and just go around collecting more of them without the passing out and whatnot.
With the powers he has now, I guess even more easily with Molly's "clairevoyance" power, he could not only teleport to people, but easily go back and forward in time and gain any number of powers. He could essentially become like a god.
That said, I think that's a part of what the first season revolved around. He didn't really have any control over his powers, so absorbing so many meant that he would pass out and not really be able to control them. And he exploded because he simply absorbed so many that he couldn't control any of them in particular.
I think that they'll eventually begin to write it in that he'll get much better at using his initial empathic mimicry power. So if he can get good at it, he may eventually be able to absorb a lot of them and just go around collecting more of them without the passing out and whatnot.
QUOTE (prander @ Jul 30 2008, 07:25 AM) 
This was something I always thought was amusing to think about.
With the powers he has now, I guess even more easily with Molly's "clairevoyance" power, he could not only teleport to people, but easily go back and forward in time and gain any number of powers. He could essentially become like a god.
That said, I think that's a part of what the first season revolved around. He didn't really have any control over his powers, so absorbing so many meant that he would pass out and not really be able to control them. And he exploded because he simply absorbed so many that he couldn't control any of them in particular.
I think that they'll eventually begin to write it in that he'll get much better at using his initial empathic mimicry power. So if he can get good at it, he may eventually be able to absorb a lot of them and just go around collecting more of them without the passing out and whatnot.
With the powers he has now, I guess even more easily with Molly's "clairevoyance" power, he could not only teleport to people, but easily go back and forward in time and gain any number of powers. He could essentially become like a god.
That said, I think that's a part of what the first season revolved around. He didn't really have any control over his powers, so absorbing so many meant that he would pass out and not really be able to control them. And he exploded because he simply absorbed so many that he couldn't control any of them in particular.
I think that they'll eventually begin to write it in that he'll get much better at using his initial empathic mimicry power. So if he can get good at it, he may eventually be able to absorb a lot of them and just go around collecting more of them without the passing out and whatnot.
Whats great about the show is that they seem to be showing us that like any raw talent the more you work at it and the older you get the better you get at it.
If Peter is just a power sponge it would get really strange after a short bit.
With him being a true Empath it means he will need to take a part of a person or their character and not just their power.
There are parts of Season 1 where Peter was just not in character. (Issac's loft throwing pain cans with TK as an example.).
Or, Season 2 when Peter and Adam are forcefully walking to the vault and Peter's power was just flipping the guards about with a stop me if you dare attitude.
I'm thinking that when he is near someone else their feelings or emotions leak over to him. If his own convictions or feelings are stronger than theirs his character wins out, if not Peter's character or behavior adjusts to more match theirs.
This would explain why, no matter what powers he absorbs, he has only been able to loose when he gets near enough to Sylar. Sylar believes that Sylar is unbeatable, therefore Peter is handicapped into not being able to defeat Sylar.
With him being a true Empath it means he will need to take a part of a person or their character and not just their power.
There are parts of Season 1 where Peter was just not in character. (Issac's loft throwing pain cans with TK as an example.).
Or, Season 2 when Peter and Adam are forcefully walking to the vault and Peter's power was just flipping the guards about with a stop me if you dare attitude.
I'm thinking that when he is near someone else their feelings or emotions leak over to him. If his own convictions or feelings are stronger than theirs his character wins out, if not Peter's character or behavior adjusts to more match theirs.
This would explain why, no matter what powers he absorbs, he has only been able to loose when he gets near enough to Sylar. Sylar believes that Sylar is unbeatable, therefore Peter is handicapped into not being able to defeat Sylar.
QUOTE (dcg @ Aug 5 2008, 02:08 PM)
If Peter is just a power sponge it would get really strange after a short bit.
With him being a true Empath it means he will need to take a part of a person or their character and not just their power.
There are parts of Season 1 where Peter was just not in character. (Issac's loft throwing pain cans with TK as an example.).
Or, Season 2 when Peter and Adam are forcefully walking to the vault and Peter's power was just flipping the guards about with a stop me if you dare attitude.
I'm thinking that when he is near someone else their feelings or emotions leak over to him. If his own convictions or feelings are stronger than theirs his character wins out, if not Peter's character or behavior adjusts to more match theirs.
This would explain why, no matter what powers he absorbs, he has only been able to loose when he gets near enough to Sylar. Sylar believes that Sylar is unbeatable, therefore Peter is handicapped into not being able to defeat Sylar.
With him being a true Empath it means he will need to take a part of a person or their character and not just their power.
There are parts of Season 1 where Peter was just not in character. (Issac's loft throwing pain cans with TK as an example.).
Or, Season 2 when Peter and Adam are forcefully walking to the vault and Peter's power was just flipping the guards about with a stop me if you dare attitude.
I'm thinking that when he is near someone else their feelings or emotions leak over to him. If his own convictions or feelings are stronger than theirs his character wins out, if not Peter's character or behavior adjusts to more match theirs.
This would explain why, no matter what powers he absorbs, he has only been able to loose when he gets near enough to Sylar. Sylar believes that Sylar is unbeatable, therefore Peter is handicapped into not being able to defeat Sylar.
I like your theory, especially because it would probably keep Peter from becoming "all-powerful".
QUOTE (tatii @ Aug 5 2008, 05:29 PM)
I like your theory, especially because it would probably keep Peter from becoming "all-powerful".
Thanks.
Thing is, Sylar has one up on Peter, who seems to only be able to use one power at a time. (I remember Claude telling him he would pull one out at a time like an index card.) that's why Pete couldn't fly away and explode on his own.
But Sylar seems to be able to multitask his powers; we've seen him use two at a time, at least. So Peter has the easier time getting them, but Sylar seems to have more control.
So, even if Peter gets a bajillion powers, if he can only use them one at a time, he's not going to be that impressive. And with an over stocked inventory of abilities, he might get stuck deciding which to use.
"Hmm, should I blast him with electicity or radiation? Or maybe freeze him? Or, oooohhh, yeah, I'll just fly up and drop a rock on him. Or maybe--"
And that's when the kid lets loose with the spitball and runs away giggling.
But Sylar seems to be able to multitask his powers; we've seen him use two at a time, at least. So Peter has the easier time getting them, but Sylar seems to have more control.
So, even if Peter gets a bajillion powers, if he can only use them one at a time, he's not going to be that impressive. And with an over stocked inventory of abilities, he might get stuck deciding which to use.
"Hmm, should I blast him with electicity or radiation? Or maybe freeze him? Or, oooohhh, yeah, I'll just fly up and drop a rock on him. Or maybe--"
And that's when the kid lets loose with the spitball and runs away giggling.
QUOTE (Flytrap @ Aug 5 2008, 10:59 PM)
Thing is, Sylar has one up on Peter, who seems to only be able to use one power at a time. (I remember Claude telling him he would pull one out at a time like an index card.) that's why Pete couldn't fly away and explode on his own.
But Sylar seems to be able to multitask his powers; we've seen him use two at a time, at least. So Peter has the easier time getting them, but Sylar seems to have more control.
So, even if Peter gets a bajillion powers, if he can only use them one at a time, he's not going to be that impressive. And with an over stocked inventory of abilities, he might get stuck deciding which to use.
"Hmm, should I blast him with electicity or radiation? Or maybe freeze him? Or, oooohhh, yeah, I'll just fly up and drop a rock on him. Or maybe--"
And that's when the kid lets loose with the spitball and runs away giggling.
But Sylar seems to be able to multitask his powers; we've seen him use two at a time, at least. So Peter has the easier time getting them, but Sylar seems to have more control.
So, even if Peter gets a bajillion powers, if he can only use them one at a time, he's not going to be that impressive. And with an over stocked inventory of abilities, he might get stuck deciding which to use.
"Hmm, should I blast him with electicity or radiation? Or maybe freeze him? Or, oooohhh, yeah, I'll just fly up and drop a rock on him. Or maybe--"
And that's when the kid lets loose with the spitball and runs away giggling.
not true, during season 2 he used Healing and TK on that guy from Enterprise, during the Hiro fight he used Time stop and Lightning, on Mat he used both Telepath and TK.
Peter Stated to Nathan in flight that he couldn't fly because it was taking all his strength to keep from exploding.
QUOTE (gamerman2781 @ Jul 30 2008, 01:34 AM)
Since Peter has the ability to absorb the abilities while only briefly in contact with someone of power, what would happen if he suddenly decided to start taking on any number of abilities.
If Peter got a hold of the list of people and addresses Mohinder posseses and with Hiro's ability, he could travel to every person on this list (alive or dead). Current dead individuals would probably not possess any power, but if they were on Mohinder's list, Peter could simply travel through time itself to come upon these persons of interest. Since Peter also has the ability to become invisible, he could simply walk up to them and copy their ability without ever changing any part of the timeline. Thus, Peter could become invincible and invulnerable - especially if he began to use these powers in conjunction with each other.
Any thoughts as to what may happen if Peter did this?
If Peter got a hold of the list of people and addresses Mohinder posseses and with Hiro's ability, he could travel to every person on this list (alive or dead). Current dead individuals would probably not possess any power, but if they were on Mohinder's list, Peter could simply travel through time itself to come upon these persons of interest. Since Peter also has the ability to become invisible, he could simply walk up to them and copy their ability without ever changing any part of the timeline. Thus, Peter could become invincible and invulnerable - especially if he began to use these powers in conjunction with each other.
Any thoughts as to what may happen if Peter did this?
It doesn't seem to me like Peter is the kind of person who would do something like that... I don't think that he's that obsessed with power. Plus, that would make him extremely dangerous, and he's not stupid enough to not realize that. And then if Sylar found him and did the eating-his-brains thing, he's just be making Sylar even more powerful, which I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to do...
And I like dcg's theory. I never thought of that before...
Thanks
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It doesn't seem to me like Peter is the kind of person who would do something like that...
Exactly! Peter is a "nice" guy, all about saving the ones we love I don't think he cares much about how many powers he has, and from what we've been seing from season 3 I think we will have alot in his mind to think about that.
QUOTE (dcg @ Aug 5 2008, 10:08 AM)
If Peter is just a power sponge it would get really strange after a short bit.
With him being a true Empath it means he will need to take a part of a person or their character and not just their power.
There are parts of Season 1 where Peter was just not in character. (Issac's loft throwing pain cans with TK as an example.).
Or, Season 2 when Peter and Adam are forcefully walking to the vault and Peter's power was just flipping the guards about with a stop me if you dare attitude.
I'm thinking that when he is near someone else their feelings or emotions leak over to him. If his own convictions or feelings are stronger than theirs his character wins out, if not Peter's character or behavior adjusts to more match theirs.
This would explain why, no matter what powers he absorbs, he has only been able to loose when he gets near enough to Sylar. Sylar believes that Sylar is unbeatable, therefore Peter is handicapped into not being able to defeat Sylar.
With him being a true Empath it means he will need to take a part of a person or their character and not just their power.
There are parts of Season 1 where Peter was just not in character. (Issac's loft throwing pain cans with TK as an example.).
Or, Season 2 when Peter and Adam are forcefully walking to the vault and Peter's power was just flipping the guards about with a stop me if you dare attitude.
I'm thinking that when he is near someone else their feelings or emotions leak over to him. If his own convictions or feelings are stronger than theirs his character wins out, if not Peter's character or behavior adjusts to more match theirs.
This would explain why, no matter what powers he absorbs, he has only been able to loose when he gets near enough to Sylar. Sylar believes that Sylar is unbeatable, therefore Peter is handicapped into not being able to defeat Sylar.
Wasn't Peter throwing paint cans to defend himself against Issac shooting at him?
If Peter is acting up to his character he was knocking out people who stood in his way from saving their lives and he didn't have much time to explain it to them. The Virus was going to somehow get out that day and possibly within moments and he had to stop it.
I don't know if Peter is thrown off by Sylar due to his empathy.
I don't see any examples of that. He seemed quite able to beat Sylar into submission but unable to control his anger which ignited his "nuclear" power which he could not yet control. Not until Nathan came.
Which tells us perhaps, he needs to remain cool and lucid when exercising powers or they will go awry and out of control.
While I think Peter has gotten more serious about his situation, and has gained in his ability to control his power, he hasn't had much time to think or evaluate.
He's gone from crisis to crisis.
At some point he, Nathan, HRG and some of the others need to finally have a pow wow about the direction these abilities take them and the world and how best to utilize their talents.
The Company exists to control Specials and perpetuate itself as an institution not as a governing body that sees to the needs of Specials or a school that teaches them to how to use their abilities for the greater good.
I see these are things that Nathan an Peter will come to realize and need to address.
^ Yes, a pow wow would be good.
QUOTE (Rebel @ Aug 20 2008, 08:47 PM)
Wasn't Peter throwing paint cans to defend himself against Issac shooting at him?
Peter went invisible and started acting dark long before Isaac grabbed the gun.
The writers have already told us that Peter takes part of the personality when he takes the power, and that it comes out when he uses the power.
QUOTE (Synch @ Aug 22 2008, 07:20 PM)
Peter went invisible and started acting dark long before Isaac grabbed the gun.
Peter turned invisable right after Issac pulled the gun. On the other hand he was clearly picking a fight before that.
We've established that Pete's "unknown" abilities are triggered through reflex, yes? If so, regarding Cellular Regeneration, between Claire and Adam, presumably only ONE (the more powerful) would be the first one activated.. Agreed? So, would the superior one (the 1st one triggered) leave enough left over for "secondary systems" to kick in..?
MagG,
Once Peter has absorbed the basic elemental concatenations of a godsend (including the CR godsend from Claire) he does not benefit in anyway from future encounters with that same godsend. Now, since I believe that Claire and Adam have the exact same 'gift', I maintain that Peter gained nothing from his run-ins with Adam (or Claire beyond their first brush...for that matter).
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Once Peter has absorbed the basic elemental concatenations of a godsend (including the CR godsend from Claire) he does not benefit in anyway from future encounters with that same godsend. Now, since I believe that Claire and Adam have the exact same 'gift', I maintain that Peter gained nothing from his run-ins with Adam (or Claire beyond their first brush...for that matter).
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