I know there's alot of people theorizing that Tracy (and her power) are just another manifestation of Niki's multiple personality disorder...along with the argument that each of Niki's personalities has a different power (somehow) and that maybe Niki's power (AS Niki) is "improved survivability" or what-not...but there's too many problems with that theory:

A] Even if it WERE true that she different powers under her different personalities, they would have been useless during the explosion because she was still infected by the Shanti virus..face it, she's probably dead.
B] In season 1 when Niki rescue's Micah from Candace, she uses super strength to knock out Candace AS Niki, not as Jessica...so she only has the one power, regardless of whichever personality is in control of her conscious mind.
C] Gina never expressed any kind of other/unique power.

Let us also remember that Niki's, DL's, and Micah's lives were pretty much mapped out by "The Company" and Linderman. If Niki had a superpower, there's a safe bet that Jessica did too. I believe the company was experimenting with them...putting them in a hostile environment, probably in the hopes of making their abilities manifest earlier than normal. When an abusive father wasn't enough to bring out their fathers, they maybe decided to try emotional/mental trauma versus physical trauma (...the whole fight or flight response theme...) so they decided to fake Jessica's death to observe how Niki would react...and we all know how THAT turned out. As for Jessica/Tracy...after being abducted, she was probably brainwashed (via the Haitian maybe) and given to another family to raise.

As for how she's gonna become villain (via Angela's dream), I think she's gonna investigate into who Niki is/was and the truth is gonna drive her nuts like Niki was...maybe in the same fashion via multiple personalities (maybe their family has a history of mental health issues).

Tell me what you all think. I know one of the major flaws in my theory is IIRC, is that Jessica was supposed to be OLDER than Niki, they were not twins, so why do they look the same? This could have also been manipulated by The Company by Penny's mom (from the GN, sorry I forgot her name) who could change people's appearances. As to why? Who knows...maybe they have plans for her that require her to look like Niki, or maybe it was just to cover the physical abuse she suffered...she may have had permanent scarring or such.

I must say at the beginning of this post that if Niki is gone I will be more than happy.
With that out of the way I was surprised that I was impressed with Traci (or Tracy).
She seems emotionless where Niki (and even Jessica) was all emotion.

It will be interesting where they go with Traci's story.
I figure she could be the non-dead Jessica or some type of clone. (Maybe Niki was the clone. hehe)

She is not a personality, she is a totally other person.

Jessica, Nikki, Tracy are Triplets

Whoa!

Real Jessica, that's totally what I thought. If Hal HAD beaten Jessica so badly she died, who would have had the ability to heal her, erase her memory and have been keeping close enough tabs on her to know when to step in? Maybe raise her close to a casino...?

Raekon got it right.

but anyways, I truly hope that they don't give Tracy and kind of problems. That's something old and done with, and i think that Ali has done a terrific job creating a THIRD distinct character, and that they should leave it alone. (and I doubt they would give her MPD knowing how confused it made everyone.)

Overall though, I think I like Tracy's character. She's a badas and so much different than Niki/Jessica. (Almost kinda sorta like a halfway point, but not quite.)

I'm just really interested in seeing where they take the character, seeing how she becomes what she is in Angela's dream, and watching her make more human slushies!! lol

Niki and Jessica were not twins. Niki was about 2 years older than Jessica. Unless they want to re-write some of the facts they've given us.

I thought it was Jessica who was older.. Didn't Niki tell the psychologist that she used to scribble monkeys on Jessica's music sheets? Plus didn't Jessica tell Hal she used to take the punches so he wouldn't hit Niki...?

And yet the dates they've given us tell us Jess was the younger.

A 2 or 3 year difference isn't that large, and all of what Niki told us (either as Niki or as Jessica) means is that Jessica was the stronger sister.

Well one source has stated that they were triplets.

However, in light of the recent graphic novel threadline, I'm beginning to wonder... could they be clones?

Neither of those facts tell us who is older than whom.



That's a prevailing theory, IMO. The one I'm banking on is that Tracy is a clone of Niki, and hence would be about 9 months or more younger than Niki.

I guess I'm the only one who really liked Niki and was hoping that she was just hangin with the Governor to get ahead. I am not real crazy about the new Tracy character to be honest. I look forward to having the evolving story change my mind.

I was really angry and sad when Niki was in that fire.

When I watched this episode I was so confused! Is Tracy Niki? Maybe Niki's power works for any dead person and not only Jessica.

Ok..didn't Niki get injected with the Shanti Virus?

Yes. And then she got blown up.

She's dead.

Tracy is someone completely new. As evidenced by the brand new power.

Can't say that really depresses me...never really liked her.

Am I the only one who was actually a fan of Niki's?

It's not really that I didn't like her...just didn't like how it seems like 90% of the time it's the same bs different day with her portrayal on the show. Here's hoping Tracy can be something better.

No. I loved the character.

That's just upsetting and very disappointing



As was I. I just think that her storyline was lacking last season.

I think Aerdna said it best. I didn't really dislike Niki until last season. It just seemed like she had gone stale, but this Tracy thing is interesting and I hope they continue to do well with it.

I'm a big Nikki fan.

I'm thinking they're clones.

For those that think they're clones, I don't think so. Mohinder said that it's Blood Chemistry that determines the powers. If they're clones, they'd have the same blood chemistry and therefore the same powers.

Personally, I was a fan of Niki. I just thought that in Season 2 they'd be done with the whole Multiple Personality thing and she'd be a normal super-powered Hero.

Mohinder said the source of the powers was in the adrenals.

Still, it doesn't stop different people (even with the same DNA, assuming they're clones) from manifesting different abilities.

Another fan of nikkis here!
I'm sad she had to go like this but I'm happy we got at least tracy.

Personally think Tracy will be a little better in the long run.

Clones don't have the same fingerprints. Every individual is unique - even clones.

Well yesterday pretty much confirmed the clone theory. Tracy finds Dr. Zimmerman and he says "Barbara? Oh, you're the one from Beverly Hills" and then tells Tracy he 'created her'.

As for the unique power issue I'm betting the company was trying to "seed" the clones with new powers, or trying to understand how different powers develop. Niki/Tracy is 34 years old, so that would have been during some of the formative years for the company.

then they wouldnt be clones...

No it's Nikki,Tracy,Barbara are triplets Nikki was adopted into jessica's family

Yes they would. Not sure if you are aware of it, but identical twins ARE clones, by definition. And such clones do not have the same fingerprints. Each organism, clone or otherwise, develops independently regardless of genetic makeup. That's why clones - identical twins, triplets, etc. - don't even look 100% the same.


Not if Niki and the others were in-vitro pregnancies.

I don't think we know for sure whether Niki/Tracy/Barbara were in-vitro babies. However, the abilities seemed to be "given" after birth. The way Angela presents what happened to N/T/B was that the birth parents were dead, the Company then did whatever voo doo they did to give them powers and then separated them into different families. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the Company had a hand in ensuring that identical triplets were conceived, but right now I just see them taking advantage of the opportunity presented to them - identical triplets. Let's give them each the magic power serum and watch what happens kinda thing.

Some backstory on the birth (natural) parents as well as Hal and Kelly (I think that was the name on Niki's birth cert) would be useful to help shed light on this. What involvement did they have with the Company? Were they aware of Niki's true origins and potential?

How would each have been cloned then? And how would each have been born to different parents?

Unless the birth records are wrong and they were "separated at birth."

Which is what they told us. Tracy was "given" to her parents when her birth parents died.

That's not the same thing.

1)They naturally born each to different parents (in-vitro), which would mean that the birth records were correct, and then as parents died (coincisdence?) they were then given up for adoption, or

2)They were all born as natural triplets, birth parents died, and then given up, in which case the birh records were forged.

In neither case does it eliminate in-vitro as the procedure, and in neither case is it explained when Dr. Z performed his little act of genetic engineering.

I'm inclined to go with in-vitro, if only his talk of "I created you." Genetic tinkering after birth doesn't mesh as well as him being the fertilization doctor up front. The child was already created in the latter sense, and he experimented on them.

But other facts don't support the in-vitro notion too well.

They messed with Nathan after he was born (remember Angela said "your father was dissapointed you weren't born with the gene") so why not the powerpuff girls (Niki, Tracy and Barbara)?

Why wouldn't the company be able to forge birth records? I would be surprised if they couldn't.

I certainly agree that there is nothing that completely eliminates in-vitro as an explanation to N/T/B. I was just saying I don't think we can go that far just yet. As I said, it's certainly within the Company's ability and willingness to do such things. But as Tracy further commented last night, whatever was done to her and her sisters occurred after they were born. As is suggested by Nathan's situation as well. They weren't altered as embryos, they received the injection (or whatever it is) after birth. Like I said earlier, some backstory on Hal/Kelly as well as the birth/natural parents. I would bet (knowing Heroes) at least one of them was involved with the Company.

They could have, of course. And after last night, it seems even more likely, given what Tracy says. But it still doesn't preclude that they were in-vitro babies, each carried by different mothers.


Of course they could.


Yes, that seems to be the case. Unless Tracy doesn't know and is assuming that. And it means Dr' Z's "I created you" line becomes silly, since she was already created.

That's bull.

He "created" her and her sisters because he was the doctor who gave them their abilities. It may even be his process.

The line doesn't become "silly" just because they weren't in vitro babies.

Before discussing the actual topic, i would like to say something about body insertion.
remember the power of body insertion? its effects were very similar to that of phasing (remember the way future peter separated present peter from jessie's body?) yeah. so having said this, i suggest that body insertion should be erased and that it should be considered only an aspect of phasing. with this in mind, i thought of applying body insertion to nikki/jessica since it can now be applied to their storyline, with DL's phasing power. smile.gif

so let's write out the whole double personality thing from seasons 1 to 2. let's say there were really 2 bodies combined; Gina (another new alter ego) from season 2 didn't exist and that nikki's alter ego jessica wasn't just an alter ego but was really her twin sister jessica who supposedly died because of their father's continuous abuse. let's say she didn't really die but instead grew up with nikki, and that they were both in love with DL. having said this, i wish the writers should've written an alternate storyline for nikki and jessica:

that some years ago, there was an explosion at nikki and jessica's house. for this to be possible, i suggest that nikki/jessica shared the same house with meredith (let's say they had really adjacent houses or that they were in an apartment) so now let's link this to the time when meredith caused the house to burn down with claire in it 16 years ago. at the time when the house exploded, there were 3 people in it: DL, nikki and Jessica. when the house exploded, DL protected nikki by covering her and using his phasing ability, thus causing the impact and flying shrapnels to phase through them (let's say DL already chose nikki to be his wife and so they became a couple, thus it would be DL's instinct to save nikki first), but jessica, with no one to protect her, was hit by the impact and was thrown on to nikki. at the moment when she was about to be hit on to nikki, their bodies combined because DL was phasing wih nikki. after the explosion, nikki and DL weren't aware that jessica was already in nikki's body because they closed their eyes during the explosion and that they were still shocked after it. as for jessica, she fell into a coma inside nikki's body. biggrin.gif

years passed. after the eclipse, she was awakened along with their powers(let's say they both have abilities). with jessica awakened inside nikki's body, she then starts to be confused as to why she was inside nikki's body, unaware that DL's phasing caused it. nevertheless, she then starts to gain control of nikki's body and in turn nikki's life, because she was jealous that nikki had already settled down with DL and that they already had a son. then the rest is history. (as for the scene with nikki visiting jessica's grave, let's say they just made a grave in memory of jessica, because they didn't find jessica after the explosion, thus thinking that jessica was incinerated)

at the end of season 1 where jessica disappeared, let's say she just remained calmed down. season 2 comes--(again as for Gina, let's say she does'nt exist). as for the scenes with Gina, let's say it was still Jessica trying to break out of nikki's body, trying to have a life of her own. as for the scenes where nikki went wild in the company when her double personality was triggered, let's say it was jessica, frustrated that the company can't find a way to separate them.

by the way i suggest that DL should'nt have died from the gunshot at season 2. he should've phased it through him, and that he was present throughout season 2, accompanying micah and monica while nikki was still working for the company. let's say the company hired her to help her problem with jessica, and that nikki also wanted a job and was hired because the company saw her as a competent agent because of her ability. and as for them moving to new orleans from las vegas, let's say the company assigned her there.

on to the explosion scene. now let's say DL went there late because he brought the firefighting crew with him. having been informed by micah and monica that only nikki was left in the burning building, he quickly and stealthily phased inside the building, then he found nikki just in time when the building was about to explode. when the building exploded, history repeats itself, but with a different outcome.

to protect themselves, DL runs to nikki to phase with her, but he only gets to hold nikki's hand, thus phasing her partly from the to let the impact and flying shrapnels. still the impact jolts jessica out of nikki's body.

now to make things interesting, lets say jessica had freezing powers. why? now that jessica has freezing powers, she now quickly covered herself in ice when she was jolted out of nikki's body, thus making her sturdy and lessening the burns from the explosion. nevertheless, she still had amnesia when her head was hit to the ground (but note that it didn't break even though she covered herself in ice. only the ice broke). even though nikki became powerless, she wasn't affected. rolleyes.gif

after the explosion, DL rushes nikki to the hospital since she acquired some severe burns from the explosion, but did not die. she falls into a coma from the explosion.

as for jessica, she now looks around, not remembering what happened. she walks away before the rescue team could search the place. not knowing her identity now, she starts to adopt a new life and name: tracy strauss. she finds a job as a secretary, and the rest is history.

as for doctor ziggerman, let's say he doesn't know her name but he still remembers her as one of three triplets he helped deliver.

as for jessica/tracy visiting micah, let's say nikki wasn't in the coffin but was in the hospital. as for DL, he finds work to earn money. as for monica, she watches over nikki in the hospital.

^^i found this in a same topic in the my nbc heroes forum while i was browsing and i dunno, it kinda looks interesting.
i read about body insertion and phasing cmbined and i dunno hw that'll work