is it a repeat post sorry if it is

who are the level 5 villains - and what are their powers

why was sylar put in level 2 instead of level 5

why is noah in level 5 ?

Since we don't know all their powers, I'll spoiler tag the powers that weren't definitively / obviously presented.

If I'm remembering correctly, we only saw four escape:
Flint - power to generate and project blue flame / fire from his hands
Jesse Murphy (whose body Present Peter is "housed" in) - power to generate and project concussive forces with his voice
"The German" - power to magnetically manipulate metal
Benjamin "Knox" Washington - power to increase his physical strength by "feeding" on the fear of others

However, a spoiler from a long while ago had Noah saying "They're like 12 Sylars." So that was often interpreted / speculated as there being 12 escapees.

But we've been given a total of seven from more recent spoilers. The other three are:
Stephen Canfield - power to generate (and manipulate?) black holes
Eric Doyle - power to control people with "strings"
Samedi - unknown

Probably because he wasn't considered as much of a threat.

In other words... to make these guys seem like the "worst of the worst," considering they're a whole three security levels worse than Sylar.

Cause he's a BAMF and a serious threat to The Company, even without a power.

Stephen Canfield's power is the ability to generate (and most likely control) black holes.

I'm betting Sylar was in level two, because of his newfound mommy.

Yes, spoilers do say that. I completely forgot. I'll go and fix my first reply. Thanks.

I don't think powers have everything to do with why they are in level 5. If u read the comics or know who claire's real mom is, you know that she too is a pyro. I think she has not developed her powers as far as the level 5 guy has, but she has the same potential.

My theory is that level 5 indicates that they are not only powerful, but also pose a HUGE threat to the companies goals. Which it seems their main goal is to keep the abilities a secret. We have seen that the guys in level 5 are not afraid of using their powers in public, to harm random people, or to harm the company directly. From the comics we know that magneto guy put up one hell of a fight before being taken into custody.

While Sylar seems the most dangerous of all to us, at the time the only ability sylar was showing was telekinesis. they knew he was a bad guy, but at the time he only killed others with powers. Whereas I would guess the level 5 guys were robbing banks and all the other villainy things, while killing anyone who got in their way.

Noah being down there is probably something the writers decided needed to happen so they made it happen. But to justify it, Noah Bennet is the largest threat to the company. He knows a great deal about its inner workings, and is clearly a bad ******.

Based on power I would say Elle, Hiro, Parkman, Ted (deceased), and peter would all of been put in level 5 asoon as the company discovered their abilities, but clearly they where not. Well maybe not peter as putting him in a room full of too powerful being could be bad..

You can also get the (spoilery) scoop from USA Today...

As for Stephen Canfield, you can find his power in the Episode #3-5: "Angels and Monsters" summary.

Left out was Flint, the guy with pyrokinesis, but with blue flames.

Concerning their placement, if you look at their Assignment Tracker profiles from the episode, their control indexes were way up there, in the 70s and 80s. These villains have learned to harness their powers and focus them and use them in destructive ways. This Level 5 facility is in New York, whereas Sylar's Level 2 facility was in the basement of Primatech Paper. Noah most likely wanted to keep tabs on Sylar, and to do so, it was most practical to keep him in Odessa vs. New York.

Apart from the 7 listed so far. There is also Echo from the webisodes who has sound manipulation (odd that they have 2 with the same power) and Oliver Grigsby from the GNs who has illumination and caused Noah to have damaged eyesight. Both of them were confirmed to be locked up in level 5 in their rspective medias so that makes 9.

Marcus the crumpler from the GNs who seems to pose a threat might be a inmate. Also, Liquid Man may be a threat. I'd say they might be likely candidates.

I'd say some of the villians who escaped won't see much screentime.

I'm pretty sure that merediths powers are even more developed than flints.
The fact alone that she can go nova already points to this.

Other than that if she wouldn't be able to use her powers well, Noah wouldn't put enough trust on her and let her help claire. She has obviously a few "good tricks" under her sleeve and I can't wait to see them.

So I have a question, if Knox's power is using fear to feed his strength, what happens if he get's into a situation where no one is afraid of him. He really isn't fearsome looking, he has a pleasant face, kind of skinny build, short. Also, would just one person's fear make him strong enough to take out a room full of people, or is it specific, only strong against the person generating the fear? Do you suppose fear is the only emotion, or just gives him the quickest jumpstart? Thanks for any feedback.

If that's a spoiler, block it.
Otherwise, what gives you that impression? I've never seen anything about Meredith going nova.



Because he uses fear, not necessarily fear of him. And everybody's afraid of something.

Well she did blow the house up when Claire was just a baby. I don't know if I'd necessarily call that going super nova, but I'm sure that that's what Raekon is referring to.

Didn't Noah say what the German and Knox's powers were while looking at them on the computer and talking to Claire? Why are they in spoil tags? Am I missing something?

Greetings,

Reading the novels will definitely bring you up to speed on some of the stuff missed out on if you don't. Some of those things will be: The German (91 & 92), Echo DeMille (96), Daphne (97 & 98), I'm not sure if Branden Lewis was one of the ones down there or if he was killed but he's featured in 93 &94 (he would definitely be a candidate for Level 5). I'm not going to go back through all of the graphic novels but they are a great resource for these guys powers and lots of fun to read.

Enjoy,
Randy

Did he? I don't really remember. Can anyone confirm that? I'll be happy take the tags out.


Yes, there are also others GN characters that could be "candidates," as BlondeGuy pointed out.

Except I believe Brendan Lewis' power was permanently augmented so that he "evolved" into a mini forest or giant tree or something by Paulette Hawkins in South America in his last GN. I believe that's close enough to "dead".

Thanks.

None of them are powerful and their power looks lame. i wonder how they are worst than sylar

Not that powerful? And their power looks lame?

I second you there, synch. All of their powers seem pretty cool to me, and extremely powerful... that said, I do still think that there's only a choice few who could put up a real fight against sylar.

Yea i just watched the episodes again. Noah did tell claire knox's power, the german, and flame dudes power. The only one he didnt say waas the one that peter is housed in. He said, "this guy you dont even want to know." or something close to that.

I'd like to see Grigsby make an appearance.

I dont think Marcus would be a Level 5, more like a 3.

Liquid Man I'd also like to see. Don't think he's any sort of threat, though.

They are worse than Sylar because they don't care who they hurt/kill. For the most part Sylar was killing other specials, but those on level 5, as shown at the gas station, have no problem killing anyone to get what they want. So everyone is in danger around them. With Sylar, he has no intention to kill innocent people just to kill them, for the most part.

Yeah, Flint Burned the gal at the gas station for no apparent reason; we saw what Deutsche did in the Berlin arc of the GNs. Im wondering what the other ones did that's so bad.

Echo isnt bad, just misunderstood.

I think the reason these people are in level 5 is because of the way they use their ability.

Flint's torturing a woman by roasting her alive...that's hardcore bad. Sylar doesn't go out and randomly kill, he goes out on planned killings, mainly for power harvesting. Though deadly, he probably wouldn't be considered a level 5 until he does something that's immediately harmful to the general public. (like blow up New York, yeah?)

Edit: Dang, you people are quick. I went away for fiften minutes and roughly three people have said what I said. Impressive!