maxii
Sep 24 2008, 11:32 AM
Wondering how Bob was killed so easily? Why he just sat in his chair for his two scenes? Ask Ausiello answered that question on his blog today!
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Ausiello: Sure did. Too bad 25 percent fewer people saw it. Now, this next tidbit isn't so much a scoop as it is an interesting behind-the-scenes nugget that has "cocktail party chatter" written all over it. The reason Kristen Bell's TV papa spent the entire episode (okay, two scenes) sitting in a chair was because his portrayer, Stephen Tobolowsky, broke his neck horse-riding in Iceland. "He had to shoot all his scenes in the chair looking face-forward," whispers my Heroes tipster. "He took his neck brace off only when the cameras were rolling." Thanks to Sylar's handiwork, Tobolowsky's injury is not expected to have any further impact on production.
Poor Bob. I was wondering why he sounded so weird. He just came back from Iceland with a broken neck1!
ActingUpAgain
Sep 24 2008, 11:35 AM
Damn, what work ethic! I'm extra sad to see him leave the show now.
MaggieRyan
Sep 24 2008, 11:38 AM
Sad! But at least he (the actor) will recover. Sad that Bob was killed off so quickly by Sylar, though. It would have been an interesting battle, considering.
IotV
Sep 24 2008, 11:44 AM
Great opportunity for a Graphic Novel, though.
Leek
Sep 24 2008, 11:57 AM
He got killed off because of it??

I love Stephen T., and was sad to see him go. Heres hoping for a speedy recovering.
maxii
Sep 24 2008, 12:01 PM
I don't think he got killed cause of it. I think Bob was always going to die.. he just didnt have more scenes and an epic last battle with Sylar..
Medemia
Sep 24 2008, 12:04 PM
Kaito is dead and Linderman is dead but they still make appearances. Bob may be dead but once Steven heals up, I'm sure he'll make appearances again.
bhero2all
Sep 24 2008, 12:15 PM
That's sad for him.
Although I'm soooo glad to see him die in show. Now if Elle would go ahead and kill off Angela I'd be super happy. I don't like people messing with Elle.
clayburn
Sep 24 2008, 12:18 PM
I'm glad he was. He was an interesting character, but SOMEBODY needs to die. I'm tired of everyone being safe. Sylar doesn't die. Mohinder doesn't die. Bennet didn't die. Claire can't die. Adam blew up, but didn't die. Nathan blew up and got shot, but didn't die.
I think it's going to be essential to making Elle a villain, though. Bob's death puts her out in the real world with nobody to care about her. So, she's going to electrifry people to get what she wants.
B4theDawn
Sep 24 2008, 12:21 PM
...when did Adam blow up?? OH YEAH... never mind.
As to why he died so easily? He turns things to gold, Maxii... what was he really going to do?
I am sorry for the actor, though, I don't imagine a broken neck is very fun... here's hoping he has a Daphne recovery!!
eh? EH?? yeah... it was lame I know.. lol.
maxii
Sep 24 2008, 12:24 PM
Idk. Turn things into gold and chuck them at Sylar? lol.
Orr...
Turn sylar into gold. He did it in a GN once.
Boy, a Sylar gold statue...
Purdy!
IotV
Sep 24 2008, 12:46 PM
Imagine how much SARMY would bid for that...
darkcervantes
Sep 24 2008, 01:08 PM
Bob was the brians, not the brawn
Sylar has more abilities and is a genius and knows how things work..A guy who turns things to gold has no chance against a God
maxii
Sep 24 2008, 01:20 PM
But it would be funny to see him try. XD
spiderfrommars
Sep 24 2008, 01:21 PM
QUOTE (darkcervantes @ Sep 24 2008, 05:08 PM)

Bob was the brians, not the brawn
Sylar has more abilities and is a genius and knows how things work..A guy who turns things to gold has no chance against a God
Agreed, a sylar vs bob fight would have been lame if you asked me.
Besides, if he hadn't killed bob, he wouldn't have been able to have the classic "Look what your dad could do!" line.
oliveFoxx
Sep 24 2008, 01:32 PM
I feel sorry for the actor, but actually killing off Bob was one of the best decisions. He might have been the lousiest character they ever introduced in the show and moreover he wasn't doing too well, leading the company.
By the way, what kinda fight would that have been. Bob might have turned Sylars shirt buttons into gold and ... yeah, that's basically it.
aulduron
Sep 24 2008, 01:36 PM
Sylar kills people from a distance, unlike the way Bob turns people to gold.
Elle was already a villian. Losing that rat ****** of a father, and not working for Angela, I believe gives Elle room to be good, especially if she is ever around Bennet, again.
spiderfrommars
Sep 24 2008, 01:46 PM
Elle's gonna actually be good (though kristen bell is still listed as a guest star with questions how long she's gonna be around). Think about it. She had loyalty toward her father, and even that she was somewhat questioning at the end of the last season. Then, she finds her dad sylared, almost gets sylared herself were it not for almost actually physically exploding, and after all of this trauma, Angela was basically like "Get the fudge out of here!" If I were Elle I'd be pretty steamed at the company, so she'd at least be good in the whole "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" deal.
sting85
Sep 24 2008, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (oliveFoxx @ Sep 24 2008, 02:32 PM)

I feel sorry for the actor, but actually killing off Bob was one of the best decisions. He might have been the lousiest character they ever introduced in the show and moreover he wasn't doing too well, leading the company.
You may be confusing being lousy with being a complete ****** that you want to slap everytime his annoying face opens his annoying mouth. In which case it was probably intentional. Every show needs a ******.
Synch
Sep 24 2008, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (aulduron @ Sep 24 2008, 04:36 PM)

Elle was already a villian. Losing that rat ****** of a father, and not working for Angela, I believe gives Elle room to be good, especially if she is ever around Bennet, again.
I don't think she was a villain. She was grey, not black.
Now, thought..I think there's a reason she was "fired." I think Angela wants her to grow up and act for herself, not Daddy.
blackmint
Sep 24 2008, 02:24 PM
I can't wait till see where Elle's character goes.
clayburn
Sep 24 2008, 02:53 PM
Ultimately, she may become good. But I really think the death of her father and being kicked out of the only life she knows is going to cause her to be a real villain first. She's always been a baddie, but playfully so. She was just a spoiled brat. Now she's going to be a real bad guy, for a while at least.
And actually, I would have loved to see Bob and Sylar fight. It would have been hilarious! Bob could throw gold things at Sylar who could fling right back into his face with telekinesis. Bob wouldn't have a chance, but it would be amusing to watch.
Rabbit
Sep 24 2008, 02:58 PM
Bob was killed off far too quickly, but it did some good for Elle's storyline.
flyboynathan
Sep 24 2008, 03:01 PM
Bob has to actually touch the people. Sylar had a ranged power. I think they killed Bob in order to a) give Elle a reason to hunt down Sylar relentlessly, and

show that Sylar just wants to become the most powerful, regardless of the what the power is. I think that they completely missed the boat though on not commenting in the show that Sylar was "the man with the golden gun."
crazy4purple23
Sep 24 2008, 03:31 PM
QUOTE
As to why he died so easily? He turns things to gold, Maxii... what was he really going to do?
Yeah...he was never really shown defending himself. I never really liked him much anyway, though his death was sort of random and shocking for me.
I hope the actor is healing okay though :]
Dunc
Sep 24 2008, 03:49 PM
I liked the fact that Bob was a giant bas***d to Elle in order to manipulate her, but besides that I found his character a little boring. I'm not terribly upset that he's gone. I wasn't filled with the sense of panic I was last year when I saw Noah take one in the eye, or Nathan take two in the chest.
I am sad for Stephen Tobolowsky though. I can't even begin to imagine breaking my neck! I'd like to say that if I had a broken neck I wouldn't be turning into work for a while, but if I was on a Heroes actors wage, I may think differently.
Raekon
Sep 24 2008, 10:08 PM
I'm sorry that bob had to go that fast.
As about a battle between him and sylar it depends on the situation. Sylar might have range but if bob were lurking and touched him from behind he could had turned him to gold immediately or at least his hands. No TK after this or anything else sylar can do with his hands so far.

So it all depends on the situation always no matter the power (except if you have a passive one of course).
Anyway, I'm very sorry that stephen is hurt so badly and I really hope he will recover soon.
Maserati777
Sep 24 2008, 11:25 PM
I'm sorry to hear he broke his neck. But the fact he didn't move his head made his scenes with Elle in The Butterfly Effect better. The music, along with the lighting and the dialogue and his facial movements/not moving his head made the scene eerie
I'm glad they finished his storyline since he was a founder afterall. I actually was shocked he lasted this long what with he recurring role and all.
Although his power was turning things into gold, how could he fight back?
RedWolf
Sep 25 2008, 01:03 AM
Makes me wonder if the next GN shows us what happened between Bob and Sylar.
In this week's GN they shown us how the agents died by Sylar's hand.
Gelsolo
Sep 25 2008, 01:30 AM
I thought Bob was just killed off solely to make Angela the head of the company. Being that she's a regular on the show now.
Synch
Sep 25 2008, 07:32 AM
QUOTE (Raekon @ Sep 25 2008, 01:08 AM)

Sylar might have range but if bob were lurking and touched him from behind he could had turned him to gold immediately or at least his hands. No TK after this or anything else sylar can do with his hands so far.

Hilarious. You want
everyone to have a chance. Bob couldn't have taken on Sylar on his luckiest day. We've
seen what happens to people who think they can surprise Sylar.
The only people who can truly combat Sylar are those with long range powers.
POD
Sep 25 2008, 10:04 AM
QUOTE (maxii @ Sep 24 2008, 12:32 PM)

Wondering how Bob was killed so easily? Why he just sat in his chair for his two scenes? Ask Ausiello answered that question on his blog today!
Poor Bob. I was wondering why he sounded so weird. He just came back from Iceland with a broken neck1!
I would say, he got killed off because he was a useless character, in a show with too many useless characters..Monica (check), Micah (Check), Linderman (check) Maya (Quad check), Parkman (check), Ando (check), Lightning Hottie (check)
seacow
Sep 25 2008, 10:10 AM
QUOTE (POD @ Sep 25 2008, 04:04 PM)

I would say, he got killed off because he was a useless character, in a show with too many useless characters..Monica (check), Micah (Check), Linderman (check) Maya (Quad check), Parkman (check), Ando (check), Lightning Hottie (check)
would you like to tell us why any of those characters is/has been useless?
Majire
Sep 25 2008, 02:08 PM
I would have liked to see them go more into Bob's powers because I don't think it was just "I can turn things to gold" I think it was full blown transmutation. I just think he turned things to gold to make an impact on people because money tends to get people's blood flowing.
If it was truly transmutation there is a chance he could have fought back... but I doubt there would be much fighting Sylar at this stage.
Wrath22
Sep 25 2008, 02:20 PM
One would think that the power itself wouldn't "care" whether a thing would turn into gold, or silver, or copper or bronze, since there's nothing really special about gold, other than it's human valuation. If it were that specialized, then Bob was just lucky that the power wasn't about turning things into lead.
I'd guess that his *desire* may have originally been for gold, and that's what it would have been at first, but then later evolve into full alchemy of any metal into any other metal. And after that... full transmutation. We know that he could turn organic material into gold, from the GN.
RiddlerHanjinome
Sep 25 2008, 02:26 PM
comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=11591
About halfway down, under the picture of Claire cutting off her toe.
Bob's ability, according to early season one, was supposed to be more than just turning things to gold. I'd say it got changed due to the strike.
jamtrax
Sep 25 2008, 03:02 PM
i hope he's fine and no permanent spinal injury. so sad to see him go early.
jryan1027
Sep 25 2008, 04:50 PM
I would look for Elle to run to Peter and I have to say I like her a lot better than the Full House recycled Irish girl *gag*
LowerTheBar
Sep 25 2008, 05:28 PM
Does anyone know of a blog or somewhere that we can post well-wishes? Can we do that on Ausiello's blog, or did he say?
POD
Sep 26 2008, 05:29 AM
QUOTE (seacow @ Sep 25 2008, 10:10 AM)

would you like to tell us why any of those characters is/has been useless?
WITH PLEASURE
If these characters (except Matt and LH, to a lesser extent) didn't exist, would anything change?
Bob - Offered info on the Company, which could have been provided by Hiro's Dad or Mama P. Furthered the plot in no way. Glad he's dead.
Monica - Time filler. Didn't have anything to do with Shanti Virus. She got power, tried to be a Hero, failed and caused the death of Niki, another useless twit.
Micah - Has had zero effect on any plot line. NO WAY, he used an ATM without a card! He got kidnapped and rescued. SWEET!
Linderman -- He had some paintings, and screwed with Nathan's head, great, wow. Shoulda stayed dead.
Maya - The most annoying character EVAH. Ohhh, she was *supposed* to have a bigger role, but the writer's striker screwed her story up. Sooo, all that build up with her stupid power was..duh duh da duhhhh, FOR NOTHING! Hence, she is useless. Wait, she got to take Mohinder's V Card...
Parkman - Hmmm, stopped a couple of bullets, gave Peter the mind reading power, got a divorce...found the new Isaac. Maybe I was a lil harsh on good ol Parkman. (who is lucky to still have his job)
Ando - Comic Relief. An unnecessary sidekick. Gotta have someone to listen to Hiro's inane ramblings about his ''destiny" (tired)
Lightning Hottie - Well, I guess she did cause the break out, and killed that Irish dude in that useless Peter plot line from last season. She should have died in the premiere.
So I guess I was a lil harsh on Parkman and Lighting Hottie. I get that secondary characters need to support the main ones. I get it. But, there is too much filler/fluff that detracts from the main story (ies). This show (and these boards) were great in season 1. Then season 2 happened (shudders).
I know some of you will get your panties/tighties in a wad over this and I apologize for questioning your little nerd world, but come on people, this show is slipping and needs to tighten the reins by killing off or integrating some of these useless characters into the main story(ies). I'm still waiting for it "all to come together"
Majire
Sep 26 2008, 07:42 AM
Would you prefer it be like power rangers have have 4-6 main characters and resolve every problem every episode?
I agree there is a lot of "extra" information because of these characters but I feel that part of what makes this show what it is. We get to see so much more of the story. And whats so bad learning about other people that have powers and what they are doing with them? Sure it takes time away from Peter's story but it builds a world and universe instead of just following the story of a couple people. It makes it like reading all the marvel comics instead of just reading X-Men.
Synch
Sep 26 2008, 08:29 AM
QUOTE (POD @ Sep 26 2008, 08:29 AM)

Have you ever heard of answering the question? Attacking the members is a good way to get in trouble. I recommend reading the rules on what is, and is not, allowed.
Imthehero
Sep 26 2008, 08:43 AM
Synch, I don't know if you have any room to be bashing pod for anything, lol. He made some good points, and while I disagree with many, he is entitled to his opinions. I do agree though that more of the characters need to come together, thats is what this whole show is about.
Regarding Bob, I loved him. He was so "nerdy", yet at the same time he was also a badass. I'm sorry to see him go, but at least Stephen gets some time to recover without having to worry about the show.
mhmhmh
Sep 26 2008, 07:42 PM
Sad to see Bob go so quickly, he was the only character I consider real (With Maury), not being perfectly physically fit (Candice doesn't count)
POD
Sep 27 2008, 07:27 AM
I love it when seemingly un-related events/characters are brought together in a clever and unexpected fashion...whether in a book, movie or tv. I don't mind seeing all the "Marvel Comics" characters, but there has to be a point to their inclusion; characters for the sake of characters is not a great idea. They have to add something to the story(ies). Micah, Monica and Maya's storylines have been completely tangental to the main plot(s). Don't get me wrong, all of this could change, Micah etc. could take on a much greater role this season. How likely is that, though?
I don't mean to offend anyone, I have a tendency to get a lil carried away when I get frustrated. I apologize if I have bothered anyone. However, I stand by my points.
RE the Power Rangers point...I already pointed out that secondary characters are necessary (to some extent).
WRT "resolving issues", you went in the wrong direction. I want the secondary folk to have more of an effect (and not be useless)... the main characters have resolved every issue. Micah et al. didn't help "save the cheerleader" or "save the world" or get rid of the Shanti virus, right?
@ Synch -- How did I not answer the question? I was asked to defend my point that a group of characters are useless, and I did so...and how did I attack anyone?
/Mighty Oracle
/NO CAPS THIS TIME
Synch
Sep 27 2008, 08:16 AM
You're looking at the show as if there is only 1 plot line going on throughout it. There isn't. It's more like life- there are dozens of plot lines, some of which are only tangential to the primary point.
Every one of the characters you listed as "unimportant" and "secondary" were central to one of those secondary plot lines. And, without those characters, the show would have felt much emptier and weaker.
As far as attacking/insulting others?
QUOTE (POD @ Sep 26 2008, 08:29 AM)

I know some of you will get your panties/tighties in a wad over this and I apologize for questioning your little nerd world, but come on people, this show is slipping and needs to tighten the reins by killing off or integrating some of these useless characters into the main story(ies). I'm still waiting for it "all to come together"
Nope. Nothing in there that anyone should have found at all offensive. Gee, I'm sorry.
IotV
Sep 27 2008, 08:59 AM
But Micah's ability did do something important to the plot - he rigged the election, remember?
Alordo
Sep 27 2008, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (IotV @ Sep 27 2008, 12:59 PM)

But Micah's ability did do something important to the plot - he rigged the election, remember?
Exactly. I would say that had something big to do with the storyline.
But since they're not a nerd in our nerdy world, they don't remember that far back. And for your information, I'm not a nerd. I'm a geek, thank you very much.
As to the rest of the comments, due to Season 2 and the writer's strike, many characters had their stories cut short. So things that would have more to do with the main story were left out. So who is to say if characters were fluff/filler or not.
The show isn't slipping. I believe it's getting better. Not saying it doesn't have it's flaws, but it could be much worse.
Also, Bob vs. Sylar would have been pretty one-sided in favor of Sylar. Just like every other fight he's in.
Chocko
Sep 27 2008, 08:35 PM
he was killed because he couldnt turn sylar into gold first.
electric1dude
Sep 28 2008, 12:26 PM
I'm really sorry for the actor

but for Bob too I was starting to like him actually but as many people said it here it lets the show focus more on the other Bishop family member...
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