quick point to make..didn't anyone stop and think that adam's blood cell's are still inside nathans body.
i mean honestly adam has been around for 400 years or so.. im pretty sure his ability is evolved and his blood along with his ability is present in nathans body..so i would like to conclude adam's blood that was put in nathans body last season was still present and thats what healed him.


also what if mohinder turned out to be uluru....?

First of all, Uluru will NEVER be in the show. Tim Kring said in an interview that Uluru only exists in the pages of a comic.

Second of all, I don't buy it and I don't think Adam's blood can't continue healing a person even weeks after it was injected.

1: In which case, Nathan wouldn't have died at all. Thus, Nathan was healed by a source other than the miracle blood.
2: Uluru does not and will not exist.

yea...uluru was just a joke..like the whole ned thing...but i would say that adams blood can help in that case. i believe his blood was still present in nathans body...trust me on that...adams blood was and is still present in nathans body..from the moment he was shot till he rose from the dead linderman was not around to viewers knowlege but adams blood could still be present. sit and think about it...in tv time all this happened within a few weeks and with blood like adams pure and always healing and regenerating who says it didnt continue to do so in nathans body...trust the writers will back me up on this..some were...linderman is dead..and some how doing what charles did to peter but with nathan...astroprojection..(maybe) or maybe somehow he's alive..seeing him stand across the speedster...looking to be her boss..hmm..



nathan isnt the source of the blood/ability itself so apparently it would take a little while longer..how is this so impossible to believe...smh..i look forward to seeing present peter talking to nathan discussing how he healed so fast..

When we first saw Peter kiss Nathan and then he got up, everyone I was watching it with looked at me and asked, "What happened?" "Beats me," I replied. But now that we know that it is Future Peter is the one who kissed Nathan, FPeter must have picked up Linderman-like powers in the 4 years between now and when he came from.

now thats also a strong possibility..that i can accept so lets sit and find out...in the season to come..because i have been watching the first two episodes...on dvr...over n over..off from work..and out of class..so heroes till the debate...

Because Nathan didn't heal. He died. And was brought back. The method they chose for this is different than those times we've seen the blood work.


Unless it was Linderman who did it.

Linderman seems to be far too important a character to just be "in Nathan's head." (IMHO anyway)

smh..watch you will all see..adams blood healing nathan makes sense and fits perfectly into the storyline..and im pretty sure the writers will explain it to you guys later..think outside the eclipse..

nathan's body reacted as it normally would someone without healing abilitys being shot..HE IS NOT THE ORGINATOR OF THE ABILITY..THEREFORE THE BLOODCELLS FROM ADAM DIDN'T REACT THE WAY IT DOES WITH ADAM OR CLAIRE... seriously think about this...think...adam gave nathan his blood to heal the wounds from peters explosion..the blood itself doesnt just dissolve and go away... it changes and adapts to nathans blood cells. potentially healing him...

Neither is Peter. Yet Peter reacts just the way Adam and Claire do.

If the ability is now Nathan's, he would react the same way.

Thus, the ability is not his.

(sylar voice) there it is..

i am not implying nathan has adams ability...im saying the blood from adam reacted the way it was suppose to at slower speeds...the human body on its own has the ability to heal just not as fast. now give him some miracle blood that doesnt just fade away...and it reacts to the damage.. think about when claire and adam first seen their ability used...it took a lil longer than it did one they got used to it...from adams arrows..to the glass cabinet..with claire...no nathan doesnt have the healing ability but the presence of adams blood still there in nathans body heals him before it magically dissappears...or dissolves.. and as for peter..he isnt the originator but he has the ability through his own...making him one of them...so ha...also in what research i just did on blood transfusions the blood donated does stay present..in the new body...so ha...again..so take adams blood and its ability's the affects of it linger...meaning it has its healing powers for a while..possibly..

The little blood that had been introduced to Nathan's system should be gone. Not saying it is, but it certainly should be.

I will be astonished if that's what brought him back.

Biologically, you would think the Adam's blood cells would have the same properties of healing so when Nathan's white blood cells attack Adam's blood, it may try to destroy it but the blood would continuously heal, eventually splitting and reproducing, even to the point of taking over completely. Eventually, this could become fatal as the organs and muscles would reject Adam's blood if it is incompatible (let's hope Adam and Claire are O- blood types and are universal donors for Nathan's and HRG's sake.)

I thought Peter looked surprised when Nathan got up. Maybe Peter didn't realize he'd picked up a ressuection kiss, from someone he passed on the street.

i dont think the writers will get that specific about the blood types...but because of their abilitys (claire and adam) i would think there blood i universal...not saying the blood from adam would help out..in giving the power to heal quickly..but act when in need. more on the whole adrenalin controls it..mohinder..theory...because linderman ability can only heal LIVING TISSUE...while claires and adams blood have been known to bring people back...from the o so bright light...

Easier answer: It's either Peter or Linderman.

I'm not buying the blood argument.

Here's my thoughts:

Nathan was healed by future Peter. It's too much of a coincidence to think that Nathan would just happen to come back to life the moment that future Peter touched him. I believe that future Peter has somehow picked up Linderman's ability, or one like it and is now using Matt's mind control ability to project the image of Linderman to Nathan in order to try and control him.

Although technically possible, the problem people run into with F_Peter deliberately healing Nathan is...why?

He came back to kill him. He's never been a good liar, so it's obvious that he's telling the truth about that.

Adam's blood has been proven to have ceased working in Nathan when he smashed the mirror and had a bandage on his hand for quite a while afterwards. That can't be it.

I agree with Synch (yes, I do that on occasion! ), it was either Linderman if he's actually there, or Peter with another power he picked up in the four years (not necessarily from Linderman).

Why would Peter wait until he was 'dead' then, and be really sad etc, and then bring him back to life? Surely the most sensible thing to do when he was in the ambulance would be to stop time, and then heal him? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=l6X8fQfOQdY On that video, at about 10 - 15 secs in, ikt shows f_Peter's face when Nathan suddenly sits up. He doesn't look like he knows that that's going to happen.

Exactly. Assuming it was F_Peter (which I don't), it would have to have been a complete accident using an ability he didn't know he had.

Would that be so unusual? Future Peter may have become accomplished at using the abilities he knows about, but who knows how many specials he has encountered in the future. And who knows which of them didn't want to be recognized as specials, and he got their abilities without realising he had.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Not saying it doesn't make sense. My argument against Peter bring Nathan back is entirely based on the concept that he did it deliberately.

If he did it by accident, I can accept it.

Personally, I'm liking the concept that Linderman did it.

Uluru will NEVER be in Heroes? Some same people confidently said Linderman will never be back either. The point is the mystery (wheather in the comic only or not) of Uluru will NEVER go away. This thing is TOO popular. Imagine, if you will that Heroes reaches such potential fame as to break into the realm of motion pictures. I think a colossal rock monster would be great eye candy for the big screen. Everything Issac drew in 9th Wonders has come true.

Not everything - only the stuff he painted while he was high.

Aahh, but here is the confliction with Uluru. Now, Tim Kring has said that the character of Uluru exists ONLY in the pages of 9th Wonders and that this is his sort of his realm. He never said Uluru would NEVER see any screen time. Secondly, the writers have stated that everything that happens in the Online Graphic Novels is relevant to the show itself. AND Uluru has made an appearance in the Online Graphic Novels.

Kaito once said that Linderman's dead, so does his bio on Wiki. But I I like the idea of Linderman playing with our heads, just like Angela Petrelli does. Quite a lot of us think that he's dead & that he's just a figure of Nathan's imagination. Myself included. Just a thought anyway.

When I saw Nathan sit upright like that, I thought wtf, how could he survive if Peter has NEVER met LINDERMAN or anyone that can heal people? I have only watched The Second Coming once 'cos I am from the UK. As for the healing blood from Claire & Adam, I personally think the blood is just temporary & doesn't last that long.

I have a question, since Peter has Adam & Claire's healing powers, why doesn't Peter just use his blood to heal Nathan or doesn't it work like that?

It probably doesn't work like that, and even if it did, I don't believe that Peter would heal Nathan on purpose. Shoot him, then heal him, then prepare to shoot him again in the church, and then wait for a quiet moment to revive him yet again? No way. Peter didn't plan on Nathan surviving. He was glad when he did and he'd found a way out to let Nathan live, but he was prepared to kill him.

Everything?

Maybe contact with Linderman(as mentioned prior) exposed Peter to the healing ability. Let's face it, the stress of seeing your brother dead at your hands would be immense...If that were the case couldn't the stress on his system cause the power to finally manifest when Peter touched him?

Yes it could, if he had it.

The problem is, we've followed Peter since he manifested. He's had no contact with Linderman.

Yeah...this one is tough... I'm sure they will come up with something that surprises us all. As you said earlier though, Synch, I don't see why Linderman wouldn't be able to heal the dead. Claire can revive from the dead so I don't see why he couldn't heal from it...and I believe that in S1 we get a glimpse of Linderman bringing a flower from wilted and dead to fresh and healthy to back this...but I'm not positive.

Well, everything character-wise that is. Also, i doubt Linderman is Nathan's imaginary friend becauseDaphne's boss is most likely Linderman and i also doubt she imagining him too.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/jpgs/chapter97_06_sm.jpg

That shows who hired Daphne. It wasn't anyone we've seen yet.

Ok, let's assume that Linderman is not a figment of Nathan's imagination. What can account for Linderman's appearances and apparent powers?

Ok, the most far fetched: Linderman actually was duel powered with healing/resurrection and invisibity.

This is a second incarnation of future Peter. Peter has learned to use two powers at once and is using an upgraded version of invisibility so that he is visible only to Nathan and shape shifting.

Maury has escaped his mind and is nightmaring/hallucinating Nathan to use him for some nefarious scheme.

Anything else?

Probably, as you move further into the crackpot realm. But I think these are the main, and most plausible, ones. Although if it was fPeter, it would really have to be Future!Future!Peter (a third incarnation), as the current fPeter certainly didn't plan around much else than shooting Nathan, from what it looks like now.

Linderman also left Nathan a suit and shoes to match at his hospital room door. Nathan was actually wearing these too, no imaging that.

It wasn't necessarily Linderman who had left the suit, but could have been whoever Maury is working with.

im not sure but i believe i said it...linderman can only heal living tissue...nathan was dead...and like i said the only people who have arose from the dead was claire and adam...you people forget it is a tv show..there will be plot holes and minor gaps in the story line...nathan wasnt healed by linderman..and the suit was most likely left by his mom or brother...which in any case is not important.

Well, that's your assumption, and mine as well, but we both can't take it for granted. Those who think Linderman could also resurrect do have a point - that flower looked pretty much dead, not "ill".

I'll rest safe in the conviction that this is a question that will be answered.

It has, in the canon. Daniel couldn't heal Au Co after Arthur shot her and killed her in the "War Buddies" graphic novels.

But he was still young in his powers. His powers may have developed like Matt's did to go beyond just healing to resurrection.

That doesn't explain why no one can see him but Nathan though. I still think this is an elaborate setup with him mother or Maury and Adam behind it all. Like I've said before...who's to say that there isn't more to this dream ability that Angela likes to let on?

there's so many different possibilities as how nathan healed...fpeter healed him with a power he didnt know he had..linderman came from the dead to heal nathan to continue with the whitehouse plans...and my personal favorite and most true...that i strongly believe the last remaining strength of adams ability healed nathan..but thats the good part we get to watch and be in shock and aww of how nathan came back from the dead. now linderman power was shown to be what it is...and i remember nathan asking him about his ability during season 1...he is limited to healing living tissue...there could be many reasons as to why nathan is seeing linderman or why it appears he's meeting up with the speedster in the lil clip we saw...could it be astroprjection? could linderman be alive due to someone with the same power that came along in time to heal him right after DL attacked him...or could he too had his own hidden sample of the miracle blood from adam..these are all questions that im sure will be answered...so for now...lets wait and see...my bets on the blood.

I don't see why people are resistant to FPeter being deliberately behind the entire thing with Nathan. The resurrection, to me, seemed clearly FPeter. He specifically kept Claire away because he knew she would heal him but probably spill the beans on the powers, so he stayed close by Nathan in order to bring him back yet still keep control of the situation. If his intent was to kill him, he would've made sure he was dead at the press conference and just left. As for him not being able to heal because of never having met Linderman (at least not after he manifested his Empathic Mimicry), I'll just say: Adam and Claire, Maury and Matt, Nathan and West, and the long line of Egyptians with Levitation show doubling of powers is common enough that FPeter picked it up from someone else. Didn't it strike anyone else that even though he came back from the dead, Nathan was still pretty weak and in need of rest, unlike when Adam, Claire and Peter raise from Regeneration and are strong? The healing was also different than when Arthur was shot and Linderman healed him in Vietnam. That went from a fatal gut wound to total healing. It all adds up to a new power, slightly different, but controlled by FPeter. A kiss to bring him back, and another to put a phony vision of a dead mob boss in his head to ward of the growing religious-neurosis.

Maury does not fit into the equation at all. Nathan seeing Linderman and the suit all happened before Maury escaped. The suit was there before Angela Petrelli came to visit. And do people actually think F-Peter is going to bother with a suit after trying to kill his own brother?? Everything points to Linderman being alive and well.

Except D.L. Hawkins punching a hole through his brains and possibly dragging half of them back out the rear of his opened skull..other than that....!

Because we've never seen someone come back from certain death.

Let's see:

Nathan died
Nathan was brought back to life
Nathan sees Linderman


All things being equal, Linderman is responsible.

PEOPLE!! LINDERMAN HEALS!! Remember?

Well, first off, I guess we have to think about the claim by Angela and Adam that massive damage to the brain or decapitation can permanently kill even the immortals. Peter, Claire and HRG all had damage to their brains yet were brought back to life with Claire's ability. So could the damage they had be compared to the gaping hole shown in Linderman's head? Next, why would Linderman only be visible to Nathan..? Lastly, if Linderman were able to raise Nathan from the dead (something he claimed he could not do in the GN) why couldn't he also heal him back to full strength, rather than leave him weak and bedridden? I mean, even HRG was hale and hearty after taking Mohinder's bullet.

To me, it looks more like FPeter manipulating things than it does Linderman. It probably just seems odd because we aren't used to seeing Peter actually be pro-active and competent.

I'm going to put my hat in with the three Peters running around, 2 future Peters. FPeter 1 is messing it up but FPeter 2 is coming back trying to fix FPeter 1's mess after analyzing the situation with his own string theory and thought instead of impulsive "I'll do this to save the future."