I just dont get why HRG is talking about 'finding' sylar's weakness and killing him while he is talking to the friggin Haitian. The Haitian is Sylar's Weakness! Just take the Haitian and shoot sylar in the face. There, done.

Noah probably wants him to suffer; He tortured his little girl.

Weakness doesn't just mean physical in this case, I bet.

Yeah. Plus, do you think Angela wouldn't go bizerco? I think perhaps he means making Sylar crack, not just finding something that will defeat him power wise. Sylar is cocky and always in control, and Noah probably wants to know which will be the right buttons to push to make him self destruct. He wants to get inside his head.

Now that sylar has Bridgets ability, noah doesn't even need the haitian anymore. Just give him a object to hold that was in the hands for a bad villain before and let sylar tap in a vision that leaves him defensless watching and feeling what this other villain did and felt by doing it. Noah has enough time then to take his head of or do anything he wants with him.
Heck even angela would have enough time to say "hereby I don't need your services anymore *chop* of or *bang* "right through the head". End of Story!

Well, we all saw that Claire isn't as invincible as we all thought she was as she seems vulnerable to suffocation which also means that Sylar would be susceptible to that as well. Something to think about there. The only question is how would you get him into that kind of a situation where someone would be able to do that to him (without the aid of the Haitian). It's also possible that Claire was just having a panic attack and it was all just mental. Sylar may not react the same way.

Don't forget that both Claire and Peter (both with rapid healing) stayed "dead" dead when they had the base of their skull pierced with a chunk of wood/shard of glass. Have the Haitian stand there and drive a spike into Sylar's head.

But I agree that HRG will want a mental/emotional weakness rather than a physical one.

How is it that Sylar (knows how things work) tells Claire that she can NOT die, ever. Angela on the other hand thinks that an immortal can be killed by shooting them in the head. How dose Angela know this.

Is that how Claire special. Adam can be killed by a bullet through the head but Claire can not?

dayton, i've been asking that same question since the first ep this season. Some people have said stuff like "Sylar must be lying to her" or "He doesn't want to admit Regeneration isn't as great as he thought" and stuff, but I think the writers put that line in there for a reason, and perhaps Sylars comment has somthing to do with Claires lack of pain. Next evolutionary step maybe? Put her brain in a blender, pour it back in her head and she'll be fine?

my thoughts exactly, Haitian + depowered Sylar = Dead Sylar.. Chop Chop head off the body and dropped in the bottom of the ocean trench.

I'm guessing eventually it will be HRG that helps Gabriel become human again as you could see how much he tried to help him at the Bank, pleading and begging him to control his hunger.

HRG probably wants an emotional weakness not only to torture sylar before death, but also to show angela that he's not someone who should be working at the company.

Because honestly, just have the haitian nearby, soot sylar in the head, chop the head off, and throw everything in an incinerator...

Claire was born more than 400 years after Adam. More than enough time to give natural evolution the time it needs to evolve the power of cellular regeneration. Claire's CR is stonger than Adam's.

no Haitian Sylar Noah in a room and Noah just beats the crap out of him with his fist much better

FYI, evolution takes place over the course of eons, not 400 years. By this argument, their powers would behave exactly the same way.

On this show it looks as if it evolves with each generation.

Yes, natural evolution. Don't know if we have a textbook that specifically addresses this issue though.

In the graphic novel, "The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei" Adam says in his narration that he's died "dozens of times" while trapped in the coffin Hiro put him in. So apparently he (and by extension Claire, Peter, and Sylar) can die momentarily of suffocation, only to come back to life a moment later in an endless cycle.

Wouldn't he eventually die of thirst and starvation?

Maybe the regenerating people don't need to eat and drink.

Killed is relative, suppose it would be exactly what happened to peter when he received a glass shard to the back of the head, he was "dead" until someone removed the shard and he regenerated. Decapitating an immortal and keeping the head seems to be a good way to do it also but then again we could argue that Adam was blown to pieces by tons of explosive and he still survived.

Natural evolution takes eons, but when you have breading then that changes things. Look at dogs.

They probably don't, as otherwise that would be the solution to killing regenerators. As for Claire, it was probably a mental issue that she couldn't breath rather than a need. Or to her, she felt like she was dying because she actually was, she just didn't need to worry. Look at Meredith though, she never wavered for one instant even though she should be more afflicted by the lack of oxygen.

Regenerative capabilities would cause the body of adam, claire, peter, and now sylar to heal all cell damage done by thirst or starvation imediately after the damage was done.




Evolution is always natural. Dog and in this case I guess human breeding is an example of unnatural or controlled selection. It takes less time, but also often results in less sound evolutionary traits, since selective breeding is done for cosmetic or specific purposes. In the case of dogs, only those who don't differ too much from their wild, non-domesticated ancestors actually come close to standing a chance in the wild. So it could be that these company created selective breeding children are actually less sufficient than their predecessors.

but with the dog scenario, they are bred for specific traits. They might loose animal instinct and such, but look at Bull Mastifs, those things would be able to dominate a wild wolf hardcore. Pitbulls? Great Danes? All bred for specific traits, and in their own way they are superior to wild ones.

A Bull Mastif would be able to dominate a wild wolf in a fight, but it still lacks survival instinct and pack mentality.

Even so, to assume that such drastic changes would even be seen from the selective breeding of company members and their children is a bit... far-fetched. Considering that most of the characters are only the second generation of such breeding and most signs of any sort of evolution from one generation to the next usually occur in the third generation at the soonest, and even then that's usually only minor things.

I don't see it as just the company breeding them, they all seem to "come together" too. Meradith and Nathan? happened to hook up and had a kid. No company interferance, but they still were selectivly bred by "fate". You don't think that could be happening throughout the years (as has been implied) and the genes are becomeing more prevalent and "pure"?

Now that's a fair point - I always kind of got the vibe that Meredith and Nathan had some behind the curtain interference from the company somehow. And we still don't know who else was around with powers way back when adam was first born, if there were any and how long it took for more specials to come aboard. Some sort of specials genealogy would be an interesting thing for someone, say, mohinder to come across/create... that is if he weren't turning into a lizard or fly or spider or some other sort of animal.

Are you sure about that?

Just because Angela didn't let them stay together doesn't mean that they weren't thrown together by the company.

If anything, the connection to the company seems likely to be the only reason they even ended up meeting, even if it seemed like chance to them.

How do we know that?

I'm saying that based on the idea that most of the characters are in one way or another offspring of the founding members of the company, and that the company is the driving force behind any breeding of specials.

Now if it's just adam as sole breeder, then that would be a different story, but that doesn't really fit his character profile.

I'm gonna vote that the company is def breading specials to get different results. Much like what Claude was telling Peter on the roof of the Deveaux building. Kinda creapy.

I agree the company is breeding them. Nikki and DL proved that. I also believe that the same fate that drew them together as Heroes also increases the probability of them hooking up when they end up finding each other. Just to add to the theory... Elle/Adam, Sylar/Maya(implied), Claire/West (if West wasn't such a Giant tool, he might have had the chance), Candice/Sylar (if he hadn't "coffeecupped her", he totally could have gotten some), and of course Nathan/Meradith. Not all of them have done the nasty, but if all these specials keep meeting, they have a much greater chance of ending up tapping a fellow Hero. This to me is not only plausible, but a valid reason as to why the evolution seems to have sped up as much as it has. It's Evolution!