As some of you may have read from
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18281


"Nope that’s right. Sylar’s starting over. Getting a whole new slate of powers as he goes. You can count Jesse’s voice powers into the mix as well. "


Sylar indeed has to once again start over and re-obtain powers one by one (he's already acquired a few) my problem comes in the fact that he exhibits use of previous powers four to five logical times that we know of already in this new season. The first, being when he's in pursuit of claire during the first episode of season three, where he clearly disappears behind her and reappears (CAN ACTUALLY BE SEEN IN THE REFLECTION of the cabinet behind claire, it's blatantly the Camoflogue ability he obtained during the deleted scenes of season 2, chameleon girl) Even if it's not that ability, it's definitely something...signaled by another sound effect that are very frequent with sylar (the ticking etc) a certain sound is played whenever he is seen lurking in the shadows.

take a look for yourself and skip right to it here for free
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/episodes/#vid=678022

Secondly, is how he actually found claires house, which logically couldn't be exaplained without the use of his previous memory ability from seeing the list on mohinder's laptop

Thirdly, is what exactly he was doing outside of claires door in the above episode. He is seen with his ear pressed against the door, apparently eves dropping on her

Fourthly is when he's closing all the windows in that same episode, he turns on the light with his ?telekinesis? and the light gets extremely bright before exploding, assumed EMT pulse from his radioactivity powers?

Finally, in the fourth episode of s3's clip, he can be seen using Issac's ability!

what's going on here!?!

Sylar was in Mohinder's apartment with Mohinder, Maya and Elle at the end of S2. He took Mohinder's case containing the virus cure and shot up in an alley. That was in Brooklyn, NY. According to "Behind the Eclipse", he got back only IA and TK.

He then had to get to Claire in CA, taking some time to figure out that that was where she was. That's about 3,000 miles to cover - a distance not unlike traveling from Mexico to NY, which took all of S2. Something tells me he picked up a few things along the way.

He couldn't have gotten Claire's new address from the list, but it could have been on her profile on Mohinder's laptop. You don't need enhanced memory to remember a single address.

You don't need an ability to eavesdrop, especially if you put your ear against the door.

I don't know how light dimmers work, but my theory is that he forced the knob to go farther than it's supposed to, overloading the lightbulbs.

As for the preview, we already know that Future Sylar paints the future in episode 4, so he's had years to take that ability from someone else.

Still doesn't explain the blatant disappearance of him in that reflection, then a re-appearance.

Alot of speculation nonetheless, i wish they'd clear some of this up.

They put in all the sneaky Sylar parts to made the scene creepier.

If Sylar lost all of his abilities as was stated in BTE then how did he demonstrate Precognitive Painting and Radiation Manipulation in the episode "I Am Become Death". While the scene's take place in the future they are powers that he aquired during season 1, and if he has them in the future, and in the past he must have them in the present.

All I can figure is that he is able to regain his S1 Powers somehow.

Or... it's been 4 years. Look how many powers he's acquired this season so far (a period of a month, maybe two?). How many more powers could he get in 4 years?

Doesn't change the fact he never fully elaborated on "being powerless" when other aspects of the show are more then clear..

Then he RANDOMLY "happened" to have the exact two powers he retrieved from season 1, and has many unexplainable situations when in which powers would explain fully such as the invisibility with Claire, and the light surge .

I really hate to contradict what the writers say, but it wouldn't be the first time they have said something then fully gone the opposite way with it later.

Nathan and West randomly have the same ability. Claire and Adam randomly have the same ability. Isaac and Usutu randomly have the same ability. Tracy and one of Sylar's victims randomly have the same power. Power duplication should not be seen as uncommon, but rather the norm.

Sylar had to get from Brooklyn, NY to Costa Verde, CA in order to get to Claire. Along the way, he could have met all sorts of HEB's.

Then, it's 4 years later when we see him painting and blowing up. If he continued at the pace he set out with at the start of this season, he would have hundreds of powers (if there even are hundreds). How could he NOT have found HEB's with the same powers as Ted and Isaac/Usutu? More than once, in fact?

I agree, that a concrete explanation would help, that reinforced their previous statements, and not have it turn out that they lied.

well if you think about it... its 4 years later. We already know that Angela is feeding him powers to use for the upcoming fight. Who's to say that he doesn't give her a list of things he would need to be the SYLAR that was so feared from season one. He always sort of made a shopping list for powers. With the company backing him he would be perfectly able to find any power that they know of, and everyone who they know is already tracked.

In the most recent episode, how was his future self able to block Peter's telepathy?

For the record, they didn't lie in that statement. Many of us, myself included, interpreted what they said to mean he wouldn't get his old powers back, but they never actually said that.

The impression Gabriel gave me was that he's been laying low raising his son, who he obviously didn't want observing powers, so that makes it hard to be snatching doubled abilities from Africa. Besides, how would Peter "know" he could paint the future, as if he's smart enough to deduce power doubling..!
I still say that writer from BTE was slippin us a mickey! (do you kids still say that?)

So, it's not possible then, that in his journey from NY to CA, and whatever time there was before he had a son that he couldn't have met another clairevoyant? Or what about finding someone with Peter's empathic mimicry, and then when Peter happened by, Sylar just absorbed it from Peter, along with nuke power? That would explain his inability to control it.

There are all sorts of possiblities, given the missing time.

Gonna have to disagree, i watched the scene over..and over..and over

and i'm 150% positive he can be seen emerging from nothingness mimicking the ability of the "chameleon girl"

well the Cameleon Girl scene was supposed to be in S2E12, after Peter destroys the Shanti virus, so that doesn't account for Sylar's "stealth" all throughout S1. Since we've heard that the unaired scenes from S2E12 are NOT canon, we're forced to ask: Is what he displayed in Costa Verde any different than what he did throughtout S1? I say no. It must have been one of the first he obtained from Chandra's list.
How about this for an explanation of S3. The Shanti virus stripped him of everything, so when he injected the Suresh/Bennet cure, it only had enough "charge" to heal his injuries, and activate only a few powers in order of when he obtained them.. that theory would make it:
1. Heal the cuts
2. restore Intuitive Aptitude
3. restore Telekinesis
4. restore "Stealth"

It's unclear what additional other early abilites (such as Cryokinesis) were restored, because we didn't observe them, but we know for sure it didn't activate Super-Hearing, as Claire was able to sneak up on him.. That gift was like 8th (?) on his S1 roster, so it obviously couldn't restore all of them, THAT only occurred after he finally obtained her ability in Costa Verde... How about it?

Sylar Never Lost His Powers...


Before Sylar took Claire's ability he said he wasn't fully healed yet, So my take on it is that after he got it he was able to regain all the prior abilities. Then in ep 6 when HRG was trying to convince Black Hole Guy "who by the way had a frickin sweet power" Sylar was totally listening to that, I believe that the writers know i'm smart enough to know that he was using super-hearing with out the special effect...

It was also very obvious that HRG wanted Sylar dead by just the body language.

Sylar wasn't listening, he dosent currently have super hearing. He was just curious as to what was going on. If he WAS listening, he would have reacted differently. He's just smart and was able to figure out what happened after the fact.

I disagree, I believe he got all his powers back when he took Claire's power to regenerate...

it's the simpliest answer for why he has all his abilities back in the future.. Like painting which by the way has improved he usta suck at painting, and Ted's power...

Even if he didn't have super hearing, Sylar's anything but an idiot. he actually holds more of a clear head right now than a lot of characters on the show. I think he would have been able to tell just what was going on.

All of his abilities? He only used two that he lost.


You can disagree all you want. Two of the shows writers in a recent interview said that Sylar did lose his powers, but at some point reobtained them in the whopping 4 year gap. Here's a scenario for you. After Peter and Gabrielle bond a bit, at some point, they decide to open eachothers heads and examine eachothers brains. Bam, Sylar has Precog painting and Nuclear control back, and Peter has better understanding of all of his own abilities. Or, there was another precog painter, Utsutu maybe? And another nuclear man? We've already had two characters with flight, 2 with regen, 2 with cyrokinesis, 2 with pyrokinesis, 2 with sound manipulation, 2 precog painters.. Not a hard stretch to think that maybe there possibly out of the billions of people on the planet been someone else with Ted's power.

Yeah but I think Sylar is going to turn good now, and Peter is gonna be the Bad Guy everybody is scared of.

I think Sylar was just guessing, based on what he saw. When he's used super hearing, in the past, they've always shown he was hearing it.

In 4 years, I don't know why he wouldn't have checked Peters brain, so he wouldn't have to kill for his powers.

aulduron,

Why would you imagine that Peter would allow/endure such a personal violation?

Creator

He might allow it because Sylar needs the powers to fight someone even more evil. Peter allows it for the common good? Or maybe Peter doesn't even have a choice. He is sedated right now, and Angela wouldn't have any qualms about letting Sylar feast, especially knowing that Peter can heal (and might never have to know it happened).

maybe sylar's final act of "evil" will be to rip open peter's head and learn his empath ability so he will no longer have to kill to obtain powers. he would still have the hunger, but only for understanding. an obvious result of this would be the transference of all of peter's powers into sylar, solving the "how did he get those powers in the future lol?" problem.

Here's another scenario. While Sylar is strapped to the table in an earlier episode, the company boss gets her favorite company henchman to help Sylar "forget" everything except his basic skill and TK. After all, Sylar blowing up in nuke-fashion wouldn't help the company much, and makes perfect sense since Angela is letting Sylar loose. Might as well limit him a bit. So he still has them, he just "lost" them and doesn't know it yet.

I like the theory! I just don't know how the Haitian would make Sylar forget that he can hear a pin drop a block away. Isn't super-hearing more an involuntary sense rather than a skill like melting toasters?

Am i thinking too much when i say that Sylar really didn't lose his powers in the second volume because he still had the hunger. So im guessing the "hunger" for powers is just a volume 3 addition by the writers because it really makes no sense. Yeah sure maybe he still wants the powers cos he has serious mummy issues but you can't tell me the "hunger" wasn't still there when he"didn't have his powers".

Just another little thought really.

AJ

I'm going to be pretty annoyed if they turn around and claim that during those four years Sylar killed and took the power of another exploding man and another artist who could paint the future. I defend the show on many levels but that is just going to irk the hell out of me. IMO, if you are going to make as drastic a choice as "Sylar is starting from a clean slate" then you make that clear. Might they do that in this episode 8? Yes, and then I will agree with whatever else comes from that new information. For now though I'm not believing it. I understand the writers are stating it, but as the evidence in the show states other wise, what I am being told is conflicting with what I am seeing. For now.

I am going to have to agree with you Leek

Ditto.

But seriously Sylar just needs time travel abilities, then he can just go back, and revisit all his old corpses seconds after he takes the powers the first time and get them again.

As for the stealth, my friends and I had great discussions over all the scenes where sylar seemed to appeard out of nowhere throughout season one. First, in his cell at Primatech, Bennet walks in the cell, no Sylar in sight, then, here's Sylar behind ya Bennet. Next, when he killed Dale Smithers, she said, "I didn't hear any footsteps". He said, that's because there weren't any. In Mohinder's apartment when Peter enters, Sylar "appears" out of nowhere. Lastly, in Kirby Plaza, Bennet and Peter are looking all around, no Sylar. Then bam, boo here I am behind you. Now, examing those scenes, and knowing by Sylars reaction to Peter using invisibilty, "I can't wait to try that one", we can safely establish that Sylar didnt have invisibility. This was all before the deledted chameleon girl, so scratch that off. Last bit of evidence we had to go on, Molly said he likes to hide in plain site. Putting all of this together and discussing it, mostly the no footsteps part, we figure that Sylar is using telekinesis to "float" himself up in the air. So when Claire walks by, Sylar is up on the ceiling.

Actually... that was supposed to happen in a reality where the Virus escaped.

"Stealth", IMO, is planting the suggestion that you're not there. Not a true invisibility, but more like a hypnotic suggestion, or a weak variant of mind control.

Easily something he could have picked up enroute from NY to CA, no?

I hereby claim that Stealth is an ability that requires tactile contact with the surface that Sylar blends to. I think that's why he appeared with getting up from a crouching position in his Claire Chase. And I also agree with MagnificoG.

its definite hes pretty stealthy, i would just like some clarification in the show - hopefully we will get that this season

I'm sure they will go into it in the future.
You cant scream plot hole just because they didn't explain everything right away.
Its entirely possible that his powers are somehow dormant and he gets them back somewhere down the line

or maybe he floated up to ceiling using TK

I think your theory is right on target. Remember how he showed Claire that his chest wound wasn't healed completely yet? Neither was his brain, from the virus. Once he saw how her power worked and took it, neither injury was a problem anymore.

So maybe, he will re-learn his old powers now that he's completely healed? I think he needs some concentrating and BAM! Costa Verde is dead.

This irritates me. Why would he get the telekenesis back and not everything else? Because it was the first power he gained? That's stupid. So if you shot him up with the Shanti Virus again would he get the TK back and the regenerative power from Claire or will it always just be TK because it has a special place in his heart...er..brain?

My understanding of Sylar's ability is that he "understands how things work" and upon examining the brain he eventually comprehends how people with abilities use their power and is able to mimic the ability within his own brain.

If this is the case then he would remember how to recreate all those abilities...and if not then why TK?

Well, I personally believe that the writers were joking, or alluding to the fact that he is on the prowl again. If he works like Peter, like a sponge, then perhaps the virus wrenched out some of his abilities. Maybe he did not use them. The likelyhood that he would not remember to use a power is high as that he has proven to be near bulletproof, but can get beaten to a near pulp with fists. Why not slow those down?

The only in show evidence is when he tells Maya that he lost so much, and when Candice says she will help him get new powers, but that was before the virus was cured.

The only evidence that he does still have them is when he did not use hearing. He did not have it when Bennet tried to have him killed, or he chose not to use it.

As far as him being sneaky, he has the power of Michael Myers from Halloween. He is a creepy villian type. The writers said that the attack on Claire was inspired by Halloween, and it is clearly true in retrospect. (Claire stabs him with a knife, Laurie Strode stabs Michael, both hide in a closet...)
He has always had this power, how else could he kill the doctor and trap Bennet in the cell in Primatech?