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aulduron
I wonder who the mother is.
Wanderlust
Noah's Mommy

Well? Well? Any ideas?
I'm lost. he looks like no one we know.
(I'm referring to kiddie-Noah, bee tee dub.)
Zensu14
Yeah. They kinda went without explanation there, but I guess that it wasn't someone that important enough that they show her.
Wanderlust
Or maybe she's important enough that they're going to wait to show her...
And methinks if they change the future and kidNoah still exists, does he have a power?
That's what I wanna find out. I mean, they mentioned kids having powers before... take Molly. It's not like it takes seventeen years for a power to manifest.
iDannPK
Noah = Noah minus 40 years.

Sylar's last power before he began to resist the hunger.

It all makes sense now. biggrin.gif

In all seriousness, did anyone notice Claire say to Sylar "You took away EVERYTHING from me!"
gamepete64
I thought I heard the kid had a British accent when he first came into the scene.
Bubpheenam15
Maybe Maya's the Mommy. Lord knows she prolly didn't stay with ShadowMo and its not like she and Gabey-baby don't have a...history...
RubberDucky
interesting theory that he made HRG young again - hard to agree/disagree with that, but okay

I was thinking a young Gabriel clone actually
Wanderlust
Don't you think they would have gone with a more... exotic... looking kid if the mom was Maya?
I think she's someone we know.
And I highly doubt the show would pull a City of Bones on us and create incestuous relationships. But you do have a point with the Claire thing. Why WAS Sylar/Gabe in her house anyway?
MaggieRyan
QUOTE (iDannPK @ Oct 6 2008, 10:17 PM) *
In all seriousness, did anyone notice Claire say to Sylar "You took away EVERYTHING from me!"



I did notice that, and I wondered what it meant... Maybe they'll explain it in a future episode?

I wonder who Noah's mother is, too. I'm doubting that Claire's adopted father (Noah) was regressed back to childhood. Sylar wouldn't care about him quite as much, in my opinion. That was a father's love that caused Gabriel to go nuclear.
bhero2all
A fathers love doesn't have to be a biological father though.. He could be simply raising him.

Although I'm saying it's Elle. Wishful thinking... Yea probly. smile.gif
Eric Moritz
QUOTE (MaggieRyan @ Oct 6 2008, 10:22 PM) *
I did notice that, and I wondered what it meant... Maybe they'll explain it in a future episode?

I wonder who Noah's mother is, too. I'm doubting that Claire's adopted father (Noah) was regressed back to childhood. Sylar wouldn't care about him quite as much, in my opinion. That was a father's love that caused Gabriel to go nuclear.



Noah's mother is obviously Clair. Clair and Gabriel got married. She went crazy, they got divorced and he got custody of young Noah and the house.
Wanderlust
ASDF. Elle! I totally forgot about her!
I bet it's her. It must be.
=]
iDannPK
I was mostly joking about the young-Noah thing. tongue.gif (Although I wouldn't put anything past the writers. wink.gif )

The kid had blond hair. Elle? Spoilers seemed to hint at this, too.
Glorfindel
QUOTE (Eric Moritz @ Oct 7 2008, 03:25 AM) *
Noah's mother is obviously Clair. Clair and Gabriel got married. She went crazy, they got divorced and he got custody of young Noah and the house.


Is that sarcasm? Because...they're uncle and niece! blink.gif
Dr. Chaos
Elle..Elle...it's totally Elle.

I would bet everything and the kitchen sink on it.

Wonder where the hell she was?
RickRossin
QUOTE (Eric Moritz @ Oct 6 2008, 09:25 PM) *
Noah's mother is obviously Clair. Clair and Gabriel got married. She went crazy, they got divorced and he got custody of young Noah and the house.


laugh.gif That's great. My theory is this. Can anybody say Pinehearst.
Wanderlust
Maybe Claire and Sylar aren't really related.
Remember how in the preview they're talking about how they "created" these people with abilities, like lab rats? Maybe Claire isn't directly related to Sylar, ergo it's okay if they get it on and procreate.
baottousai
everyone on IMDB thinks its Claire, ever since we got the spoilers on Gabe xD
MaggieRyan
I'm just going to cross my fingers and hope it's not Claire because - as far as we know - Sylar/Gabriel is Claire's uncle if he's truly the son of Angela Petrelli. After all, if she is the mother of both Nathan (Claire's father) and Gabriel/Sylar... then that is certainly incest.

I'd prefer to think that the child's mother is Elle, or an unknown character, or anyone besides Claire.

And you're right, bhero2all, a father's love does not extend only to his biological children. Take Noah's love for Claire as an example... But I'd still bet that Sylar/Gabriel was the biological father of that child.

Dr. Chaos
QUOTE (baottousai @ Oct 6 2008, 10:36 PM) *
everyone on IMDB thinks its Claire, ever since we got the spoilers on Gabe xD

Wait...so since they found out Sylar was a Petrelli, they already started the incest jokes?

Having been part of many a strange IMDB conversations, I probably should have seen that one coming.
Eric Moritz
QUOTE (Glorfindel @ Oct 6 2008, 10:30 PM) *
Is that sarcasm? Because...they're uncle and niece! blink.gif


Uhh, I uh, forgot about that... He's only a half uncle dry.gif Besides we don't know if that's really true or that Mama Petrelli just made that all up.
DoctorClaude
I say that Gabriel is related.

But I don't think he's the father. I think he's just the adoptive father.
Eric Moritz
QUOTE (Dr. Chaos @ Oct 6 2008, 10:31 PM) *
Elle..Elle...it's totally Elle.

I would bet everything and the kitchen sink on it.

Wonder where the hell she was?


Am I mistaken or did Elle die last episode?
Dr. Chaos
QUOTE (Eric Moritz @ Oct 6 2008, 11:00 PM) *
Am I mistaken or did Elle die last episode?

No, you're thinking of the random employee Momma Petrelli brought in to feed her baby boy.
Koontyme
I know it would be kinda gross but if it is Claire it would make since. Especially since Sylar/Gabriel
'took away everything' from Claire. Because he would have took the child, her ability to feel pain, her
house, etc. But again it could be any of the other women too.
themightytruk
Some of these suggestions as to the mother are just...out there. blink.gif

There a lot more women in the world than just the ones we've seen on the show. Chances are Noah's mom might not even be anyone we know, and thus wasn't important to show in the episode. Though, the lack of a mom in the household does stand out. Wonder what happened to her.
ecspider
QUOTE (Koontyme @ Oct 6 2008, 11:17 PM) *
I know it would be kinda gross but if it is Claire it would make since. Especially since Sylar/Gabriel
'took away everything' from Claire. Because he would have took the child, her ability to feel pain, her
house, etc. But again it could be any of the other women too.



It's not Claire, as yeah it would be gross, and at present time Sylar already knows hes related to her. If youre interested in theories check the spoiler forum threads. Its already been hinted at who it is.....
Eric Moritz
QUOTE (Dr. Chaos @ Oct 6 2008, 11:01 PM) *
No, you're thinking of the random employee Momma Petrelli brought in to feed her baby boy.


I'm thinking of when all hell broke loose and she let out the prisoners. Thinking about it again, she was in the episode later getting chewed out.
Synch
QUOTE (Eric Moritz @ Oct 6 2008, 09:58 PM) *
Besides we don't know if that's really true or that Mama Petrelli just made that all up.


Umm... we kinda know it's true. F_Sylar confirmed it tonight.
Dr. Chaos
QUOTE (Eric Moritz @ Oct 6 2008, 11:36 PM) *
I'm thinking of when all hell broke loose and she let out the prisoners. Thinking about it again, she was in the episode later getting chewed out.

Yeah, that too.

She walked away pretty peeved but in good health.
Ard_Choille
Sylar may have hooked up with Meredith (Claire's bio-mom). That would definitely cause further rift between him and Claire.
gareburger
QUOTE (Ard_Choille @ Oct 6 2008, 09:25 PM) *
Sylar may have hooked up with Meredith (Claire's bio-mom). That would definitely cause further rift between him and Claire.


I think she's kindof older.. and going through pregnancy would probably be a long-gone idea for her, otherwise she'd be focusing on making a family rather than traveling europe.
conspiracytheory
The mother was Elle or I'm a rhinoceros.
jamtrax
i think noah's mommy is kate...oh wait, that's the wrong show. laugh.gif


i'm hinting it's elle.
random1181
the kid is a clone of Noah Bennet, there is no mother.
Rebel
Its Maya or Elle.

Elle is more likely only because KB and ZQ are seen filming together for episodes might be for the next volume "Fugitives". And thee have been tons of spoilers saying Sylar and Elle will be spending a lot of time together.

I still hope the kids Maya's. And the my girl friend from Puerto Rico has a biological son who is in fact blonde with pale white skin. So no a son of Sylar and Maya wouldn't have to look "more exotic."
aussiebattler16
i honestly don't really care who the mother is, i mean for all we know mohinder now has... well lady parts and really really likes Sylar :S
im more interested in where she is. My best guess is that she died in childbirth sad.gif
pikachuFL
We don't even know for sure if Sylar is the kid's dad. Claire was given to the Bennet's to raise as their kid. Perhaps this kid's parents were special and were killed and they had to give him to a special person to protect him. Sylar's working with the company now so maybe they decided to let him take on the challenge. Risky, yes, trusting Sylar with a kid who could potentially have an ability but we've seen that Angela is willing to take dangerous risks. Maybe she thought it would be good for Sylar to care about someone else for a change. If that's the case, it seems to have worked because in the future Sylar fought his dark side for the sake of the boy.
Heidi
I was wondering who his mother is, too. Must be a fascinating person to change Sylar back into Gabriel.
What intrigues me even more is why the kid is named Noah. There's got to be some connection to the Bennett-family other than Claire. The name is significant somehow. I know it!
IGotSuperPowers
QUOTE (aussiebattler16 @ Oct 7 2008, 01:30 AM) *
i honestly don't really care who the mother is, i mean for all we know mohinder now has... well lady parts and really really likes Sylar :S
im more interested in where she is. My best guess is that she died in childbirth sad.gif



YES!
Mohinder is the mother!
I am sticking with that theory until I am proven wrong.
LostSurvivor
QUOTE (Eric Moritz @ Oct 6 2008, 11:00 PM) *
Am I mistaken or did Elle die last episode?


No - she was "released" from the company I thought.

I like the idea of Elle as the Mom. Then I'd see Sylar can't control the hunger and kills her - his son's mother. That's what scares him straight - he took his sons mother. That's why he tells fPeter "I fight it every day - for him."
mtalon1
QUOTE (LostSurvivor @ Oct 7 2008, 09:47 AM) *
No - she was "released" from the company I thought.

I like the idea of Elle as the Mom. Then I'd see Sylar can't control the hunger and kills her - his son's mother. That's what scares him straight - he took his sons mother. That's why he tells fPeter "I fight it every day - for him."


Wow...I actually like that one.

Truthfully, there was so much future goodness (Matt/Daphne, Pres. Nathan, Monster Mo) in last night's episode that I really hope they don't "fix" it this time. That's probably my number one complaint is that they set up these great timelines for one or two episodes that are wiped out by the end of the season. At least with the original "NYC go boom" future we got a couple graphic novels out of it, but it's still distressing. Can we at least let it linger for a couple of volumes?
rev_otter
Ok here it is I finally figured out what Claire meant.. Sylar took everything from her including her adoptive father Noah (Sr) disowned Claire and adopted Sylar as his own. Sylar absorbed a power to be able to have children so he is the Mother and Father of Little Noah the adopted grandson of Big Noah
SaberProductions
I think I'd rather see Noah's mother as someone completely outside the scope of things. Maybe not even special. Maybe Sylar managed to get a normal life after being reformed. But, that's just me being all hopeful.
Wanderlust
Ooh... whoever said it... random1181

I like the idea that there is no mother and Noah is just a clone of older Noah.

I mean, human cloning is an issue in real life, they could have moved it into the show. Like, they've already turned people radioactive, why not make two of each person?

Hehe and maybe our good old nice Claire still exists and that brunette one is just an evil clone.

I'm not sure how that would work though.
oliveFoxx
How old would you guess the kid was? If he is yet to be born, he can't be much older than 3, but the boy looked older to me.
Heidi
QUOTE (oliveFoxx @ Oct 7 2008, 06:49 PM) *
How old would you guess the kid was? If he is yet to be born, he can't be much older than 3, but the boy looked older to me.

hm, good point! He looked something like 5 or even older!
devolution
My guess on this is that somehow Noah(bennet) helps Sylar to control the hunger in some way and probably dies as a result leaving Sylar to name his child after the person that saved his life. This is my take on it. I don't see the producers giving Sylars child the name of one of his "enemies" as a coincidence. And out of everyone Elle makes the most sense. Even though Sylar killed her father he wasn't that great of a dad to begin with and we've seen some of the things Elle's done. She's no girlscout and these two are by far the most similar personalities on the show.
BiggestHeroFan
QUOTE (Eric Moritz @ Oct 6 2008, 10:25 PM) *
Noah's mother is obviously Clair. Clair and Gabriel got married. She went crazy, they got divorced and he got custody of young Noah and the house.

I absolutely LOVE that theory. It makes complete sense.
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