If linderman isnt really there.. what saved nathan after the shooting?

I'm guessing his pops did it. The guy obviously has serious Jedi mind powers.

Isn't Matt Parkman's father involved in all of this? He could make people see Linderman, couldn't he? While others were doing the work in the background. Somebody has to hand Daphne the files, for example.

or were there really files?..

yes, there were. Daphne could touch the files both times, though she couldn't touch Linderman as she soon found out.

or perhaps her brain identified the foreign infomation and interpreted it as file folders instead of "a vision"

I wonder why Maury chose to have Linderman appear in front of Nathan rather than Jesus.

Yes, it does appear to me that Maury is the one creating the Linderman "Ghost."

I don't know if he is powerful enough to actually take the form of Linderman as to be able to hand Daphne the files though, and since the image isn't real (the files passing through the image), I'm not sure how the file was given to her?

Are you kidding? Jesus' fee is WAY higher than Malcolm McDowell's!

Arthur is bed ridden and we have no idea what his power is. At this point I would have to go back to Peter as the healer. I don’t know how he did it but he was the only person in the room when he woke up.

You may not have noticed, but the files are NEVER touched by the Linderman-Vision. They are always just lying beside him on the bench/seat. Somebody could have put REAL files there, couldn't they?

When I first saw it I thought it was fPeter curing him, he seemed a little shocked by it so it might have been another one of his accidental uses of a power he doesn't know he has. Then the whole Linderman thing happened so I didn't think about it anymore, now we know the truth behind Linderman it could come back into play.

Either that or Arthur has the ability to absorb and combine powers and was using remote healing on Nathan

I was thinking a couple answers are possible

(1) the blood he received from Adam during season 2 actually works longer than some of us innitially thought. perhaps Nathan has that ability from now on?

(2) we can assume that Peter would have been around Linderman as a child so he would have acquired the ability without knowing it.

(3) some unexplained ability that fPeter had that we haven't seen yet

this seems likely as an option, especially when you go back to the graphic novel "War Buddies" where we are introduced to Linderman and how his powers manifested. He accidentally cured his mother when she was dying without realizing it, definitely a possibility for Peter where Nathan is concerned. Though nothing is for certain here at all

RubberDucky: excellent number 2 ..makes the most sense

In the latest Behind The Eclipse the writers say it was God. It may sound lame to some people, but when your brother is trying to mess with the fabric of time and space-thats probably a good time for God to jump in.

Oh dear, deus es machina? And they are admitting to it? Horace would have loved Heroes up to this point too.

Sheindie,

Peter had not manifested while still a child. He manifested rather recently. Charles asks Angela if he's manifested yet when Peter comes to work for him.

Creator

1: Unlikely. If it were the blood, then Nathan's hand wouldn't have needed a bandage after smashing the mirror.
2: Except Peter manifested in Six Months Ago, and Angela states hers is the first power he absorbed.
3: This makes the most sense, at the moment.

RubberDucky,

As Synch mentioned (and I agree), this makes the most sense right now (given what we've recently learned). I'd also say that, if true, this is a newly manifested 'gift' judging from F_Peter's reaction...the "kiss of life".

Creator

I agree with everything Synch said



They said Nathan thinks it's god - there's a different.

And then they said thats what they were sticking to.

Still what a character thinks and what is a known fact is different. Adrian said the reason would always be left up to the audience to decide. And like the big question of live - God or do you find a logical reason on earth?

That's what is usually said after someone tells a fib

I think it's Adam's blood. I think it gave Nathan the power to heal, but it's not mastered as Claire's and Adam's. So, he smashed his hand in the mirror and it didn't heal because he doesn't know how to use it.

Otherwise, why would F_Peter shoot his brother? He wanted to stop his brother and the madness once and for all. He didn't want his brother to survive. If he did, then why didn't he just appear farther back in the future and tell Nathan not to go to the media?

Yeah, I know... It wouldn't be exciting. But still... Heroes has been somewhat logical so far, why not now?

Also, F_Peter seemed to be in tune with all his abilities. I think he'd know if he had the ability to heal. It obviously wasn't Linderman. So, my guess is Adam's blood. I thought he had been injected, but it's been some time since I've seen the episode. I am glad that it's been brought into light for sure, thanks!

1. I agree with Synch on this one. If it were in the blood, then Nathan would have no reason to bandage his hand.

2. Sure, Angela's was the first power he got, but perhaps he subconsciously absorbed the abilities as a child, not using them until far later. The Company held meetings at each other's grand apartments and mansions and the likes. Nathan stated being around during these meetings; we can assume Peter did as well.

Outstanding! This is actually what I had proposed they should do over in the "Speculation and Theories" forum, where I made a thread about this topic. People who would rather not believe it was God are free to interpret it with any of various other theories, and people who would like to believe it was can do so. Nathan keeps an interesting character motivation, and we can wonder if the rest of his actions might be in some way divinely-inspired and/or some major event in his life might be part of the plan.

I dont know if this has been discused before, but it just crossed my mind


If Linderman was just an image projected by maury, then how was nathan healed?

We still don't really know.

I think it was something to do with Peter, personally. But as Leek said, nobody really knows yet.

We'll find out before the season is over..hopefully.

Someone mentioned something about after Nathan was healed with Adam's blood the first time, there might have been some residual effects.

i dont know if this is a spoiler but apparently all the questions from season one until now will be answered in episode 8

Future Peter with 4 more years worth of skills healed Nathan when he kissed him. We have seen other skills that this Peter had also that the real Peter does not.

These a little inconsistency with Maury's powers... In season 2 wasn't he affecting Molly from miles away? Why is it that now he has to be like within 20 feet of Daphne for it to work? Also, if that's the case where was he when Nathan was seeing Linderman? Hiding in a cabinet?

maybe Daddy had something to do with Nathan?

i doubt there is a residual effect because sylar had claire's blood and wasn't able to heal from being stabbed until he learned her ability.

Not really relevant to this episode. Closing this.

If you look around in the discussion for last episode, there's a thread about this.

So who/what actually revived Nathan?


It was shown that "spirit Linderman" was just a mind trick from Matt's father.
Nathan claims he saw God or some crap when he woke up.

I think Peter's (or was it Claire or Adam?) blood was used to fix up Nathan in season 2... is that blood still working to make him immortal? If so, Niki should have revived as well, and anyone who receives Claire or Adam's blood should be able to keep healing...

Nah, the blood Adam injected into Nathan's system was long gone by then, as was the effect.

I'm going with Peter subconsciously absorbed the ability to revive dead people or some kind of regenerative ability and used it to revive Nathan...subconsciously. Makes sense and we don't need to use any far fetched theories.

Had a similar thread to this last episode. Again, not relevant to this episode. So, I'm gonna close this.

Here's the relevant thread from "Angels and Monsters".

Nathan's resurrection, Since it wasn't Linderman..

Many of us, knowing that the image of Linderman was just that, an image and not a real manifestation that could heal Nathan thought fPeter brought him back. I admit I thought fPeter was behind the illusion of Daniel and the resurrection. Something has recently occurred to me though: What if Angela was wrong and Nathan was born with an ability? It's hard for me to swallow that Peter and Sylar both have such awesome abilities, yet Nathan had none at all. As I'm curious how they had genetic research for at least 40 years involving abilities, I'm also perplexed how they could determine he had no ability as a newborn? Was it stricly Angela's dreams that said so, as was implied holding baby Gabriel? What if Nathan has something inside him that only manifested after he was dead? Something that would have also happened after Kirby Plaza if Adam hadn't used his blood?