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RubberDucky
think back to season two when we saw that the Haitian was the one that put Peter in the shipping container. Okay, so here is my question...who was the Haitian working for at the time.

Primatech or Pinehearst.

we have seen the Haitian working for both sides whether it is in the present for Primatech, or in the future with Daphne for Pinehearst.

and with both of them having a significant role by either one of his parents, it is interesting to think about who would be looking to hide him away. well currently we see Angela hiding him away in level 5, but perhaps Pinehearst isn't built like super Guantanamo, so a shipping crate was a better option at the time.

the Haitian is an interesting character in all of this I tihnk
Visitor27
The Haitian told Peter his mother helped him when he was in need, therefore the Haitian was helping Peter in her name.

It wasn't about putting him away as in jail, it was about setting him free from his life - from being a Petrelli so to speak. He was doing what Angela couldn't do, setting him free.

In a sense the Haitian was representing Angela's interests, but not necessarily carry out her orders.

He has protected her sons for her in the past - he was protecting him by giving him a new life - a clean stale to start over.
Raekon
I'm still keeping the option open that he might "work" for pinehearst so Angela can have a mole in there that acts in her own interests in the present timeline.
Visitor27
QUOTE (Raekon @ Oct 17 2008, 12:40 AM) *
I'm still keeping the option open that he might "work" for pinehearst so Angela can have a mole in there that acts in her own interests in the present timeline.


That would make him a double, double, double agent since so far all we've seen The Haitian do is work at the Company, do things for Angela and stand in her office with Hiro and Ando like a bodyguard. If Pinehearst hires him they would be very stupid on their part. And if they hired him knowing that they must have a way to kill the Haitian for he is Angela's best protection when he's around - the Companys best protection.

You also have to keep in mind Pinehearst seems to have Arthur at it's helm and he's the only person who knows ALL of Angela's secrets.
sharisse
i dont think hes with pinehearst..not yet anyway
Citizen
QUOTE (RubberDucky @ Oct 16 2008, 09:00 PM) *
we have seen the Haitian working for both sides whether it is in the present for Primatech, or in the future with Daphne for Pinehearst.

"Future" is the key word there.
Visitor27
QUOTE (Citizen @ Oct 17 2008, 08:34 AM) *
"Future" is the key word there.


Bingo. The future. A future where I would say Angela seems dead. And the constant I think people are forgetting in ALL the futures - the Haitian is always working for a Petrelli.
jamtrax
correct me if i'm wrong, the haitian's loyalty is neither to the company nor pinehearst. if i recall correctly, he was raised by hrg himsef when he was still young. bennet is anti-company, gone against their orders several times and who was with him most of the time? your guess is just as good as mine.

very interesting character indeed but out of gratitude, i'd say his loyalty is to noah bennet.
Citizen
Nah. He's loyal to Noah but his loyalties lay with Angela. Noah told him to wipe Claire's memory, and he didn't because Angela told him not to.
Visitor27
QUOTE (Citizen @ Oct 17 2008, 08:51 AM) *
Nah. He's loyal to Noah but his loyalties lay with Angela. Noah told him to wipe Claire's memory, and he didn't because Angela told him not to.


Yes. I'd think his loyalties are to Angela before Noah. I also would like to note that the fact that Angela told him NOT to wipe her mind says a lot about Angela's character. It would have been easier for her many, many times to use the Haitian on her family and she doesn't. And along with her experience with Matt, I think it's very telling how she feels about such things.

Whatever Angela did for the Haitian when he was in need makes him feel he owes her a debt. It is also very telling that Kaito (she did have the other half of the formula)and the Haitian both trust Angela and they are two characters we see as "good guys" mostly and to have the utmost integrity.
Citizen
I submitted a question for a BTE that actually got answered.

QUOTE
John wants some history:

“Will we ever find out what Angela did for the Haitian to make him so loyal to her?”


Not entirely in the plans. But, there is more on the Haitian in episodes 10 and 11. We’ll get to know a little about his family and his other obligations.
Visitor27
QUOTE (Citizen @ Oct 17 2008, 08:29 AM) *
I submitted a question for a BTE that actually got answered.


Thanks for asking I wanted to know that too. It really saddens me we won't know what she did for him. I think in a vol showing how villains can do good things also, knowing what she did for him would be important.
Citizen
And it's hard to think of something she could have done for him, too! I mean, he was a child with the Company. Did she give him toys? Did she polish his father's necklace for him? Did she take him for weekly trips to Haiti? And more importantly, why did she do something for him?
Visitor27
QUOTE (Citizen @ Oct 17 2008, 08:49 AM) *
And it's hard to think of something she could have done for him, too! I mean, he was a child with the Company. Did she give him toys? Did she polish his father's necklace for him? Did she take him for weekly trips to Haiti? And more importantly, why did she do something for him?


Considering how medieval shivery the act of being in someone's debt I have to say saved his life somehow. Literal or not. She could have helped his family or him personally.

We know the Haitian was a child within the Company. Angela seemed to not want Claire to be a child of the Company. And from what we know about Tracy and Nathan and even Elle children of the Company no matter who they are related to are treated a certain way.

Elle was brought in right away to the Company, yet Katio and Angela lied to their children to the point of trying to get them to deny their powers. Its very thin, but it could be Angela has a soft spot for Children in the Company because of what she had seen - perhaps even the gulit of what she had done to her own children.

When Angela confessed to Nathan she didn't seem to proud of happy with what had happened. Regret does a lot to a person, sometimes they even try to help others who stand in for the others they hurt.

Perhaps she did for The Haitian what she's doing for Sylar? In a way. The haitian taken from his home, in a strange place and country, whose to say he did what they wanted at first - he obviously wasn't talking. If he was walking around blocking their power and they didn't know how to stop him, whose to say Bob or someone decided it would be best to get rid of him.

You can see I've been thinking about it a lot. Angela isn't as cold as everyone things. The emotions she has shown, not to mention how expressive she is in her dreams - a place where she doesn't have to put on a front - shows under the surface is a person with feelings. Not to mention we change who we are over 60 years of life, 15, even 10.

Whatever it is the Haitian consideres it his duty to help and protect her and her family. He is a man for honor.
BluEyedGrl105
QUOTE (Citizen @ Oct 17 2008, 09:49 AM) *
why did she do something for him?


Possiable pure intentions: because her natural instinct is to mother (although she isn't above sacrificing her children dry.gif )

Possiable not so pure intentions: because The Haitian's ability trumps all, at the very least he is a huge bonus to have on your side. His ability also seems to be pretty rare, even other Empaths (or whatever you want to call them) have been mentioned, but not anyone with The Haitian's ability.

random: I just remembered that the Haitian's father gave him a necklace before he died and Claire's bio mother gave her a necklace and the Haitian gave Peter a necklace..I guess giving jewlery is a motif on this show tongue.gif
Visitor27
QUOTE (BluEyedGrl105 @ Oct 17 2008, 09:18 AM) *
Possiable pure intentions: because her natural instinct is to mother (although she isn't above sacrificing her children dry.gif )

Possiable not so pure intentions: because The Haitian's ability trumps all, at the very least he is a huge bonus to have on your side. His ability also seems to be pretty rare, even other Empaths (or whatever you want to call them) have been mentioned, but not anyone with The Haitian's ability.

random: I just remembered that the Haitian's father gave him a necklace before he died and Claire's bio mother gave her a necklace and the Haitian gave Peter a necklace..I guess giving jewlery is a motif on this show tongue.gif


Yes, Angela could have taken him under her wing knowing how useful he would be in the future.
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