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Stunt
Why, why did Arthur have to take Peter's powers?
This really sucks. =\
jbs829
Merged Topic: Obviously Peters Powers Arent Gone Forever

The formula, duhhhh

so predicable
blackmint
QUOTE (Stunt @ Oct 20 2008, 09:01 PM) *
Why, why did Arthur have to take Peter's powers?
This really sucks. =\

Peter will get his powers back.
s5lo
QUOTE (Stunt @ Oct 20 2008, 10:01 PM) *
Why, why did Arthur have to take Peter's powers?
This really sucks. =\


At least the "hunger' is gone too.
Jumper
Well they did say that Heroes will be losing their abilities...this is one way.
wrathfulgrape
now we know how peter can get a scar
Dantefer
Better question is why did Peter hug him, Sylar's power should have told Peter that wasn't going to end well.
Jumper
QUOTE (s5lo @ Oct 20 2008, 10:02 PM) *
At least the "hunger' is gone too.

he could of just taken his lightning ability...but he may have taken it all.
Hakumi
QUOTE (jbs829 @ Oct 20 2008, 07:01 PM) *
The formula, duhhhh

so predicable



Well at least this is a way for them to explain away Peter having "The Hunger" now.
jbs829
He took his power, but he will get them back from the formula obviously
Mattyb89
I know I thought Peter is the only one who could have could have stopped him, He should have brought Sylar so they could gang up on him. He really is the most powerful villian yet.
pawn6545
so does that makes is dad super sponge?
KingBlade
Did he take the empathic mimicry power too?
Leek
Thank GOD! Maybe..maybe we can see a little bit of old Peter. Just for a short time, but it will be so nice! WOOOOOO!!
jbs829
Yeah, but the real question is when he will get them back i think, not how

i have a feeling powerless peter is going to drag out longer than we would like
nickpowers101
This is totally messed up... I mean, he'll obviously get his power back (I hope), but still... Peter with no powers kinda sucks. Hopefully, this will make way for a bad @$$ Sylar to go and knock Arther and his peeps out.
Agent42
Maybe Peter's bangs will grow back now and he will be the lovable guy we all grew up with!

Just kidding...but I can see where Mohinder's research is going to come in handy. Extract powers from Pa Petrelli and inject in Peter.
sixr
or are they gone at all and old man Parkman has tricked his mind to thinking theyre gone?
evagolden
You know, they may be gone forever, too! Many people kept complaining about Peter being too strong and all, so maybe this is the writer's answer to this issue!

Or maybe he'll get them back, like, by the formula!

Or maybe he'll get a NEW power from the formula! That would be a nice twist, to keep him in the heroic character, yet without being too strong!

I guess we'll figure this at the very end of the volume! So I can't wait to see the rest! laugh.gif
DoctorClaude
I think he wiped him clean. I'm not exactly certain that he got the empathic mimicry too, but it would make the most sense, in a room full of powerful people.

Either way, it's good because the "hunger" is gone...but it was most certainly a nasty thing for daddy to do.
jbs829
QUOTE (evagolden @ Oct 20 2008, 10:07 PM) *
You know, they may be gone forever, too! Many people kept complaining about Peter being too strong and all, so maybe this is the writer's answer to this issue!

Or maybe he'll get them back, like, by the formula!

Or maybe he'll get a NEW power from the formula! That would be a nice twist, to keep him in the heroic character, yet without being too strong!

I guess we'll figure this at the very end of the volume! So I can't wait to see the rest! laugh.gif


Well Mohinder stated that abilities manifest different depending on the person, so peter would have the same ability as before if he was given the formula
Eleo
Wow if he never got them back, that would be great. He and Hiro are cause for a lot of plot inconsistencies due to the magnitude of their abilities.
revel911
QUOTE (wrathfulgrape @ Oct 20 2008, 10:02 PM) *
now we know how peter can get a scar


Great Point.
nickpowers101
QUOTE (DoctorClaude @ Oct 20 2008, 10:08 PM) *
I think he wiped him clean. I'm not exactly certain that he got the empathic mimicry too, but it would make the most sense, in a room full of powerful people.

Either way, it's good because the "hunger" is gone...but it was most certainly a nasty thing for daddy to do.


If Arther has the "hunger", there's gonna be some craziness in store for future episodes (I think)...
Phoebegirl319
Why does Peter have to be injected with the formula to get his powers (or a power) back?
Wouldn't it be possible that if Mr. Petrelli dies than the original power goes back to their owners?
ajschue
Could be why Peter had to get Sylar's power in the future.
Will Sylar's power destroy/lead to the downfall of his father?
baottousai
if peter never gets his abilities back then that would totally suck. period. arthur seems almost unstoppable D:
Agent42
Arthur simply can't be stopped now. Unless he gets a shunt to the head? He's immortal.
Kez
QUOTE (Agent42 @ Oct 20 2008, 09:22 PM) *
Arthur simply can't be stopped now. Unless he gets a shunt to the head? He's immortal.


No no no, Angela still has the trump card, making Arthur useless.
AdHac
I would be so mad if peter doesn't get his powers back, i get he is too powerful, but still the show would be nothing if he didn't get his powers back, it was a great episode, better than anyone i have seen!
themightytruk
This is crazy! It should definitely be refreshing to see Peter without all the powers all the time. More like in season one where he went after Sylar by himself, since by himself he didn't have any power. Though Peter's probably not gonna be in the position to do much from the current group he's with. Guess he doesn't have to worry about "the hunger" anymore, though.
civilian
Why don't we just throw the haitian into the mix and then just shoot off all the villains?
DoctorClaude
Interesting thought about Arthur having "the Hunger".

Plant a virus in the system, and he leads himself to destruction. I like that thought.
Kez
QUOTE (DoctorClaude @ Oct 20 2008, 09:40 PM) *
Interesting thought about Arthur having "the Hunger".

Plant a virus in the system, and he leads himself to destruction. I like that thought.


Plant a virus...hmm makes good sense. Instead of trying to take out your rival, let them fight amongst themselves.

Assuming Arthur doesn't know either

( a ) What Sylar's hunger entails or
( b ) That Peter has it also,

Then he should at the start of the next episode freak out and kill Knox, the other guy, etc, with Daphne just flying out of there and looking for Matt.

But I doubt it. They will try to make it like Arthur is a master of control and wouldn't be affected by it, which is a pretty lame excuse if that is what they use.
Dem
QUOTE (Kez @ Oct 20 2008, 10:53 PM) *
Plant a virus...hmm makes good sense. Instead of trying to take out your rival, let them fight amongst themselves.

Assuming Arthur doesn't know either

( a ) What Sylar's hunger entails or
( b ) That Peter has it also,

Then he should at the start of the next episode freak out and kill Knox, the other guy, etc, with Daphne just flying out of there and looking for Matt.

But I doubt it. They will try to make it like Arthur is a master of control and wouldn't be affected by it, which is a pretty lame excuse if that is what they use.


Maybe this explains why future peter doesn't have the ability to heal in the future because Arthur took all of his powers and he never got that one back?

Just a thought.
tickitytak
like i've said.. i'm under the impression that "the hunger" was Arthur's original ability and the first ability he acquired afterwards was "power stealing" from the woman in that GN who was tracking young Linderman.

anyone else follow my logic?

also f_peter did have regen. even if it was taken from him, he would've still re-acquired it from claire.
blackmint
QUOTE (Dem @ Oct 20 2008, 10:02 PM) *
Maybe this explains why future peter doesn't have the ability to heal in the future because Arthur took all of his powers and he never got that one back?

Just a thought.

If your talking about when FPeter got shot by Claire, He did run into her before that took place so this becomes invalid. Twice if I remember.
NUCLEARPUNCH
i'm going to go ahead and assume that arthur does not have "the hunger". sylar's unique power needs explaining before it can be harnessed, i.e. the watch lesson. nothing leads me to believe that arthur petrelli would not need an explanation as well before "the hunger" began. in other words, to access sylar's power, arthur needs to learn "ultimate understanding". he does not have this yet, because if he did, then he would already have "the hunger".

get it?
Frostbite
Another thought, do we know that Papa Petrelli's power drain is permanent? What if, slowly, Peter's powers return to him and they slip from Arthur. That would explain him being chained up in the preview, since Arthur would certainly want some access to those abilities. Just a guess though.
vypr
QUOTE (wrathfulgrape @ Oct 20 2008, 10:02 PM) *
now we know how peter can get a scar


Brilliant! That's a really good point.
evagolden
QUOTE (jbs829 @ Oct 20 2008, 10:10 PM) *
Well Mohinder stated that abilities manifest different depending on the person, so peter would have the same ability as before if he was given the formula


Well, everyone changes with time! The person you were a year ago may not be the same as the person you are now, which will not be the same as the person you'll be in a year! Peter may end up, somehow, losing his natural empathy, and as such him being an ''empath'' wouldn't fit anymore!

Ok, this is a more philosophical than scientifical answer, but this is just to say he could get a different power in the end, that's not totally impossible! But I think like you that, if he gets an injection, he'll get the Empath power back... But he'll have to start back from scratch to get every powers he had! lol laugh.gif
ecspider
I'm betting this all relates to the scar. And if a certain eclipse happens I dont Arthur will have his abilities anymore either.
spiderfrommars
Definitely relates to the scar. And Claire being able to kill him in the future.

I'd love to see the formula give him back some random abstract power that he has to learn to use to his advantage somehow. Like super smell.

"I can smell you dialing 911..."
pngaou
Man I am REALLY hoping that Peter stays permanently powerless!! I think he's become way too powerful for his own good.
verseatyle
QUOTE (NUCLEARPUNCH @ Oct 20 2008, 10:07 PM) *
i'm going to go ahead and assume that arthur does not have "the hunger". sylar's unique power needs explaining before it can be harnessed, i.e. the watch lesson. nothing leads me to believe that arthur petrelli would not need an explanation as well before "the hunger" began. in other words, to access sylar's power, arthur needs to learn "ultimate understanding". he does not have this yet, because if he did, then he would already have "the hunger".

get it?






QUOTE (Frostbite @ Oct 20 2008, 10:11 PM) *
Another thought, do we know that Papa Petrelli's power drain is permanent? What if, slowly, Peter's powers return to him and they slip from Arthur. That would explain him being chained up in the preview, since Arthur would certainly want some access to those abilities. Just a guess though.




I like that idea, makes sense and since Peter's his son, I'm sure some leniency is being used by Arthur, it looked as if he was keeping him around and out of the picture
Critex
i with you peter with no powers really sucks they have mad Papa P to strong in giving him all peters powers
Dumbsaint
Aw man just when Peter really learned how to use his abilities like a pro they nerf him. Lame.

Just the fact that he seemed to showcase his powers for the last time as well.. Maybe Mr P's drain is only temporary.. although the 'Sorry it had to come to this' line makes me think that it would be more grave than that..
5n4k3
QUOTE (Dem @ Oct 20 2008, 07:02 PM) *
Maybe this explains why future peter doesn't have the ability to heal in the future because Arthur took all of his powers and he never got that one back?

Just a thought.


FPeter has the ability to regen. Remember when he got shot by Claire and the Peter from the past started running there was the Haitian near those trash containers when Peter smashed a bottle into the Haitians head or to the wall not sure but I think it was the wall. So FPeter couldn't regen by then. And after costa verda FPeter and Peter was in the same place as the Haitian and Claire when she cutted Peter. So maybe FPeter died bewacuse the Haitian was with him all the time and time just flew and the body was full dead or something like that?
Hugo
QUOTE (Dumbsaint @ Oct 21 2008, 06:07 AM) *
Aw man just when Peter really learned how to use his abilities like a pro they nerf him. Lame.

Just the fact that he seemed to showcase his powers for the last time as well.. Maybe Mr P's drain is only temporary.. although the 'Sorry it had to come to this' line makes me think that it would be more grave than that..

*chuckles* I guess I'm an oddball but I like that not all the "heroes" in Heroes have powers... Yes, it is a superhero show but sometimes less is more.

Peter losing his powers could be a good thing. I suspect he lost them permanently, but that he'll gain new ones, perhaps through the use of this formula. I'd be okay with whatever happens.
spiderfrommars
Although I'm sure peter's gonna get powers back, I'm going to be mad if it's from Arthur's stealing being temporary. Because I bet that the powers would just slowly reappear in peter, and once again we'd have a "peter discovers his powers" plotline.
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