so me and my roomie were watching dying of the light tonite, when tracy and nathan were at mohinder's, they showed maya still in one of mohinder's coccoon things.
i anxiously asked what was happening with her, and my roommmate didn't understand.
he was like, "she's dead. why are you asking what's going on with her?"
wha? this is news to me.
i didn't think she was dead! is this something that people generally assume with her, given her status? maybe i am hoping for some miracle, but it just seems odd.
thoughts?
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I don't think she's dead. One of the other people Mohinder encased was still alive last episode (he opened his eyes while Maya tried to dig him out). So she's incapacitated. And I can't say anymore than that. No clue what Mohinder is doing with these people.
Yeah, I doubt she's dead. I wish they would kill off the character but I doubt she's going anywhere right away.
She'll probably keep crying until Mohinder is sent on a rampage and kills her.
I think that it is similar to when a spider parylizes it's prey before it wraps it in it's web!
QUOTE (gemini @ Oct 20 2008, 11:24 PM) 
I think that it is similar to when a spider parylizes it's prey before it wraps it in it's web!
Nail on the head. Induced paralysis.
She's not dead. Remember when she used her power under the table, and the people in the cocoons' eyes turned black as well? I don't think that would have happened were they already dead.
She better not be dead after wasting all of last season getting her to NY. She'd better do something huge, soon.
maybe tracy will freeze her into a nice maya cocoon ice sculpture.
I think I might be the only person on this board that likes Maya 
There are precious few of you. I'm not one, but I respect your position. I'll withhold all my snarky comments about what I hope might happen to Maya this season.
QUOTE (aulduron @ Oct 20 2008, 08:31 PM)
She better not be dead after wasting all of last season getting her to NY. She'd better do something huge, soon.
She needs to go to the Pinehearst building an unleash her poison on everyone there.
Or kill an entire city.
The writers need to give this girl SOMETHING. :/
My only problem with Maya was the writers strike. It looked like she was the one who would take down the "Nightmare Man" until we learned that was Maury. Then it seemed like her power would be the one that could stop Sylar. Nope! We never saw her develop beyond a girl with an awesome looking power that was sad. In this season she succumbs to Mohinder's new animal magnetism, tries to help, gets cocooned. She's become boring and so has her power compared to some of the newer ones. She could come into play again but I really don't care how. She went from good potential to "who cares" for me. She is up there with Micah and his cousin for me. People who just aren't that much fun to watch.
There was just so much destructive potential for Maya's power that the writers never exploited. :/
They really should try and have Maya become a villain, but at this rate it seems like there's no hope left for her.
They really should try and have Maya become a villain, but at this rate it seems like there's no hope left for her.
Sadly, the character got destroyed due to the writer's strike. She was originally going to be the cure for the Shanti Virus, after it got out, but because that never happened, her character hit a dead end.
It's like "oops, plot change...now what?"
It would be nice to see them try to reinstate her back into the story...but I think they're trying to distance themselves from season 2, and through that...Maya just got used as cheap hot body for Mohinder to sex up and then they're probably going to off the character.
She's not dead yet, but I wouldn't be too shocked if they did it soon.
It's like "oops, plot change...now what?"
It would be nice to see them try to reinstate her back into the story...but I think they're trying to distance themselves from season 2, and through that...Maya just got used as cheap hot body for Mohinder to sex up and then they're probably going to off the character.
She's not dead yet, but I wouldn't be too shocked if they did it soon.
QUOTE (DoctorClaude @ Oct 21 2008, 12:59 AM)
Sadly, the character got destroyed due to the writer's strike. She was originally going to be the cure for the Shanti Virus, after it got out, but because that never happened, her character hit a dead end.
It's like "oops, plot change...now what?"
It would be nice to see them try to reinstate her back into the story...but I think they're trying to distance themselves from season 2, and through that...Maya just got used as cheap hot body for Mohinder to sex up and then they're probably going to off the character.
She's not dead yet, but I wouldn't be too shocked if they did it soon.
It's like "oops, plot change...now what?"
It would be nice to see them try to reinstate her back into the story...but I think they're trying to distance themselves from season 2, and through that...Maya just got used as cheap hot body for Mohinder to sex up and then they're probably going to off the character.
She's not dead yet, but I wouldn't be too shocked if they did it soon.
I could not have said that better. I disliked Maya last season, but I hoped over the summer and at the beginning of this season that she'd be redeemed. I knew she had potential. Just doesn't look like it's going to happen.
QUOTE (Richard @ Oct 21 2008, 07:28 AM)
I think I might be the only person on this board that likes Maya
You are not alone, there a few of us here that like her too (check the thread under the characters with the name why everyone hates maya).
The main problem is that there are way too many haters around like there was in DLs case before.
Then when a character like DL or Maya (if the writers FINALLY give her something to do) becomes cool towards its end and gets cheaply killed so it can be written off, all these haters starting to like the character all of sudden and then you get tons of threads from these same people whining about how cheap it was to let such a "great character" go like this forgetting that their whining and hate towards these characters got them offed in the first place only because they weren't willing to give them a chance at first.
So after all the whining of many people (that the writers obviously saw and heard) about maya in season two that were cut badly due to the strike and their main usage for sylars story, they are obviously not trying to give her any chance anymore because they think that people doesn't want her in the show anyway. -.-
So another character with great potential gets wasted for nothing.
At least she isn't dead yet (they already confirmed she will die this season
)and there is hope that she won't die like a hopeless mohinder puppet but as the woman she deserves to be.
They shoulda killed her and kept sylar.
QUOTE (madmab @ Oct 20 2008, 10:27 PM)
They shoulda killed her and kept sylar.
Sylar's still around, silly.
QUOTE (madmab @ Oct 21 2008, 08:27 AM)
They shoulda killed her and kept sylar.
And you should stop getting repeatitive maybe?
You posted exactly the same line in at least two other posts of maya.
QUOTE (Richard @ Oct 20 2008, 10:28 PM)
I think I might be the only person on this board that likes Maya
Actually, there are quite a few of us who like her. I've not seen too many guys who dislike her. I notice its mainly a female phenomenon
I'm writing an essay which I plan to post on the subject of who does and does not like her and why and what it says about both. And also how I feel the character was betrayed by her creators.
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RaekonYou are not alone, there a few of us here that like her too (check the thread under the characters with the name why everyone hates maya).
The main problem is that there are way too many haters around like there was in DLs case before.
Then when a character like DL or Maya (if the writers FINALLY give her something to do) becomes cool towards its end and gets cheaply killed so it can be written off, all these haters starting to like the character all of sudden and then you get tons of threads from these same people whining about how cheap it was to let such a "great character" go like this forgetting that their whining and hate towards these characters got them offed in the first place only because they weren't willing to give them a chance at first.
So after all the whining of many people (that the writers obviously saw and heard) about maya in season two that were cut badly due to the strike and their main usage for sylars story, they are obviously not trying to give her any chance anymore because they think that people doesn't want her in the show anyway. -.-
So another character with great potential gets wasted for nothing.
At least she isn't dead yet (they already confirmed she will die this season )and there is hope that she won't die like a hopeless mohinder puppet but as the woman she deserves to be.
The main problem is that there are way too many haters around like there was in DLs case before.
Then when a character like DL or Maya (if the writers FINALLY give her something to do) becomes cool towards its end and gets cheaply killed so it can be written off, all these haters starting to like the character all of sudden and then you get tons of threads from these same people whining about how cheap it was to let such a "great character" go like this forgetting that their whining and hate towards these characters got them offed in the first place only because they weren't willing to give them a chance at first.
So after all the whining of many people (that the writers obviously saw and heard) about maya in season two that were cut badly due to the strike and their main usage for sylars story, they are obviously not trying to give her any chance anymore because they think that people doesn't want her in the show anyway. -.-
So another character with great potential gets wasted for nothing.
At least she isn't dead yet (they already confirmed she will die this season )and there is hope that she won't die like a hopeless mohinder puppet but as the woman she deserves to be.
More power to Raekon
thanks for the input, everyone!
i have to admit, i didn't immediately think she was dead last night either...it was only until someone thought she was *obviously* dead that i got concerned.
i understand there are many people that take issue with how maya's story developed, but i place that squarely on the shoulders of the writers and circumstance! maya, in and of herself, has the capacity to be an amazing character...and certainly has her moments.
i have to admit, i didn't immediately think she was dead last night either...it was only until someone thought she was *obviously* dead that i got concerned.
i understand there are many people that take issue with how maya's story developed, but i place that squarely on the shoulders of the writers and circumstance! maya, in and of herself, has the capacity to be an amazing character...and certainly has her moments.
QUOTE (AcesX @ Oct 21 2008, 01:25 PM)
thanks for the input, everyone!
i have to admit, i didn't immediately think she was dead last night either...it was only until someone thought she was *obviously* dead that i got concerned.
i understand there are many people that take issue with how maya's story developed, but i place that squarely on the shoulders of the writers and circumstance! maya, in and of herself, has the capacity to be an amazing character...and certainly has her moments.
i have to admit, i didn't immediately think she was dead last night either...it was only until someone thought she was *obviously* dead that i got concerned.
i understand there are many people that take issue with how maya's story developed, but i place that squarely on the shoulders of the writers and circumstance! maya, in and of herself, has the capacity to be an amazing character...and certainly has her moments.
Well said!
I'm a huge Maya supporter but I’ve been disappointed with her treatment this season so far. It feels like instead of putting her on the shelf (as they didn't want to carry on her story it seems) until she was needed the writers just decided to use her for sex appeal and it’s just so very out of place and odd. I’m starting to think maybe she had her memory wiped by the Haitian: not mentioning her brother or what Gabriel did to her? Not even once? Ridiculous.
I’ve said somewhere else on this board but I’ll say it again: this can be the turning point for her, if they take her away from Mohinder’s lab and integrate her into the action. She’s got an awesome power, she should wield it!
Dania has said that Maya wants revenge against Sylar and that she will find him, so I don’t think she’ll die yet. I think she’s just paralysed in the cocoon.
I hope TBTB know that there are some that like Maya and actually hear us and not just that section of fandom who’s level of dislike for her boarders on the disturbing at times.
It's not that I don't "Like" Maya, she has a cool power. But they need to actually do something with the character. Both her and Mohinder are these repetitive, indecisive people. Mohinder is all "I'm staying I'm leaving I'm staying I'm a bug" over and over. Maya is just "I'm sad, I'm OK, I'm sad, someone died." Just over and over again.
I was hoping that by getting to NY and meeting Mohinder would lead somewhere but now it just seems like a really bad horror movie plot. I'm waiting for Mohinder to join Pinehurst, Arthur to take Maya's ability away, and for her to just be a normal supporting character. I think that would work well. Or if she died. Along with Mohinder. That would be find too.
I was hoping that by getting to NY and meeting Mohinder would lead somewhere but now it just seems like a really bad horror movie plot. I'm waiting for Mohinder to join Pinehurst, Arthur to take Maya's ability away, and for her to just be a normal supporting character. I think that would work well. Or if she died. Along with Mohinder. That would be find too.
She will die of dehydration or something soon if she doesn't get out of the cocoon. And if she wants to get revenge on Sylar, why would she still want Mohinder to "cure" her ability? She wouldn't stand a chance without it. It would be nice if she could learn to control it better-like direct it to a particular person and not just a widespread affect.
It's really too bad that Maya's character has fallen flat because of the writer's strike. Maybe they'll take her into level five and she'll wipe the place out...or maybe Pinehearst. There is certainly more that they "could" do with her other than leave her as a spider snack.
They really need to change Araneae-Mohinder's plot right now. I like the guy and he's evidently brilliant, intelligence-wise. Someone needs to give him an anti-impulsive shot though.
They really need to change Araneae-Mohinder's plot right now. I like the guy and he's evidently brilliant, intelligence-wise. Someone needs to give him an anti-impulsive shot though.
QUOTE (Richard @ Oct 21 2008, 01:28 AM)
I think I might be the only person on this board that likes Maya
I like Maya also. I don't dislike any of the characters, at least not enough to want them off the show entirely.
That's one thing that irks me about this series, the fans seem to have influence over who stays or goes.
QUOTE (qfactor @ Oct 21 2008, 11:48 AM)
I like Maya also. I don't dislike any of the characters, at least not enough to want them off the show entirely.
That's one thing that irks me about this series, the fans seem to have influence over who stays or goes.
That's one thing that irks me about this series, the fans seem to have influence over who stays or goes.
Wait. Us fans actually influence what happens?
Rubbish. If that were true, we'd have Claire, Elle, Maya etc in a 2 piece bikini group shot already.
QUOTE (Boingy420 @ Oct 21 2008, 03:53 PM)
Wait. Us fans actually influence what happens?
Rubbish. If that were true, we'd have Claire, Elle, Maya etc in a 2 piece bikini group shot already.
Rubbish. If that were true, we'd have Claire, Elle, Maya etc in a 2 piece bikini group shot already.
LOL!! fair enough
QUOTE (qfactor @ Oct 21 2008, 02:48 PM)
That's one thing that irks me about this series, the fans seem to have influence over who stays or goes.
Really?
You...uh...did just watch Adam die, right?
QUOTE (qfactor @ Oct 21 2008, 03:48 PM)
That's one thing that irks me about this series, the fans seem to have influence over who stays or goes.
Here's a response from Tim Kring from the Tim Kring Talks Heroes: Villains on CBR News
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Did you enjoy the fans' reaction at Comic-Con and how does their input affect what you do the rest of the season?
I would love to say that it does affect us but the truth is -- well, let me give you an example. The truth is when we premiere on September 22, we will be just starting to shoot episode thirteen. Which is the finale of this volume. To the extent that we could have had any input from the audience after people had seen it at Comic-Con, I mean we're so far ahead that there was nothing we could do about it. So unfortunately, the audience is very far behind where we are, creatively, on the show. There's not much that we can do about it to change things.
I would love to say that it does affect us but the truth is -- well, let me give you an example. The truth is when we premiere on September 22, we will be just starting to shoot episode thirteen. Which is the finale of this volume. To the extent that we could have had any input from the audience after people had seen it at Comic-Con, I mean we're so far ahead that there was nothing we could do about it. So unfortunately, the audience is very far behind where we are, creatively, on the show. There's not much that we can do about it to change things.
I highly doubt they will kill her off before Peter/Sylar/Papa Petrelli gets her ability...if not, it's a complete waste of a unique ability
QUOTE (darkcervantes @ Oct 21 2008, 04:04 PM)
if not, it's a complete waste of a unique ability
What is her ability anyway?
It would help me like her character more if knew what she was actually about. People's eyes turning black is a bit vague.
QUOTE (Naufragus @ Oct 22 2008, 01:41 PM)
What is her ability anyway?
It would help me like her character more if knew what she was actually about. People's eyes turning black is a bit vague.
It would help me like her character more if knew what she was actually about. People's eyes turning black is a bit vague.
she's a walking typhoid mary. living death. sickness.
i thought that was pretty clear. if not, then i hope this helps!
haha typhoid mary! heheheehe! i hope she isnt just...dead and thats it really
QUOTE (Naufragus @ Oct 22 2008, 06:41 PM)
What is her ability anyway?
It would help me like her character more if knew what she was actually about. People's eyes turning black is a bit vague.
It would help me like her character more if knew what she was actually about. People's eyes turning black is a bit vague.
Well she emits a poison when under stress. It is vague though, I’d like to know more about what it actually is, why her tears etc.
What's interesting is that her ability would have had a flip side: absorbing viruses. So there's a good side to her ability to.
But I don't think they'll do this now as the Virus plot was cut short/resolved.
I Think La Llorona would be a more fitting nic-name
QUOTE (Albion1919 @ Oct 22 2008, 02:24 PM)
Well she emits a poison when under stress. It is vague though, I’d like to know more about what it actually is, why her tears etc.
What's interesting is that her ability would have had a flip side: absorbing viruses. So there's a good side to her ability to.
But I don't think they'll do this now as the Virus plot was cut short/resolved.
I Think La Llorona would be a more fitting nic-name
What's interesting is that her ability would have had a flip side: absorbing viruses. So there's a good side to her ability to.
But I don't think they'll do this now as the Virus plot was cut short/resolved.
I Think La Llorona would be a more fitting nic-name
thats what I meant. Black crap oozes from her eyes and people feal pain is the extent of what has been revealed. knowing its a poison or toxin is more info than the writers have ever provided.
QUOTE (Raekon @ Oct 21 2008, 07:27 AM)
You are not alone, there a few of us here that like her too (check the thread under the characters with the name why everyone hates maya).
The main problem is that there are way too many haters around like there was in DLs case before.
Then when a character like DL or Maya (if the writers FINALLY give her something to do) becomes cool towards its end and gets cheaply killed so it can be written off, all these haters starting to like the character all of sudden and then you get tons of threads from these same people whining about how cheap it was to let such a "great character" go like this forgetting that their whining and hate towards these characters got them offed in the first place only because they weren't willing to give them a chance at first.
So after all the whining of many people (that the writers obviously saw and heard) about maya in season two that were cut badly due to the strike and their main usage for sylars story, they are obviously not trying to give her any chance anymore because they think that people doesn't want her in the show anyway. -.-
So another character with great potential gets wasted for nothing.
At least she isn't dead yet (they already confirmed she will die this season )and there is hope that she won't die like a hopeless mohinder puppet but as the woman she deserves to be.
The main problem is that there are way too many haters around like there was in DLs case before.
Then when a character like DL or Maya (if the writers FINALLY give her something to do) becomes cool towards its end and gets cheaply killed so it can be written off, all these haters starting to like the character all of sudden and then you get tons of threads from these same people whining about how cheap it was to let such a "great character" go like this forgetting that their whining and hate towards these characters got them offed in the first place only because they weren't willing to give them a chance at first.
So after all the whining of many people (that the writers obviously saw and heard) about maya in season two that were cut badly due to the strike and their main usage for sylars story, they are obviously not trying to give her any chance anymore because they think that people doesn't want her in the show anyway. -.-
So another character with great potential gets wasted for nothing.
At least she isn't dead yet (they already confirmed she will die this season
)and there is hope that she won't die like a hopeless mohinder puppet but as the woman she deserves to be.Actually, I still have hope that Maya will survive this season - think about it, and consider Kristen has frequently been wrong. 1)Maya is carried out on a stretcher the next episode. By all appearance, she's dead. BUT, we know from the sneek peeks of E07 that Maya doesn't die, at least not where she is now. Kristen doesn't seem to be a genius, exactly, and (although I'm sure that she's a very nice lady) I think she makes conclusions based on things that she sees on set. Suppose she was there that day - she sees Maya being carried out, and makes an assumption. Hopefully, I've given you more hope.
QUOTE (aulduron @ Oct 20 2008, 07:31 PM)
She better not be dead after wasting all of last season getting her to NY. She'd better do something huge, soon.
i think she's the key to the season.
remember how kaito said one of the heroes had the light inside to fight the darkness. i know her primary ability is plague, but consider that she can make it go away as well. in many people. simultaneously.
thats of course if what kaito said was more literal than metaphor.
*shrugs*
QUOTE (Ard_Choille @ Oct 21 2008, 10:25 PM)
Here's a response from Tim Kring from the Tim Kring Talks Heroes: Villains on CBR News
That might be correct for things that are already done.
However, he and others already mentioned of listening to the fans and the best proof on this are sylar and arthur to say the least.
Mayas storyline this season could be based on the hate people spread around about maya and alejandro the whole second season without giving her a chance or even try partially to understand her as a character.
What gives me still hope that Arthur might not being able to absorb her power or when he tries something happens to him is that the writers had spoiled before as also Dania and Sendhil in a interview as far as I remember, that Maya will change the world this season.
I hope that they didn't based it on the fact that Mo started and created his formula through her but rather because of something greater.
As far as we know she doesn't die in the next episode since she has scenes with seth green later in the show.
This is also confirmed through the description of one of the later episodes (don't remember the number sorry
).I would find it a big waste to give her such a great look in the promo images in which she has a dark self and the look on her face like in the "the ring" movie by not doing nothing with the character anymore. :/
QUOTE (AcesX @ Oct 21 2008, 05:25 AM)
thanks for the input, everyone!
i have to admit, i didn't immediately think she was dead last night either...it was only until someone thought she was *obviously* dead that i got concerned.
i understand there are many people that take issue with how maya's story developed, but i place that squarely on the shoulders of the writers and circumstance! maya, in and of herself, has the capacity to be an amazing character...and certainly has her moments.
i have to admit, i didn't immediately think she was dead last night either...it was only until someone thought she was *obviously* dead that i got concerned.
i understand there are many people that take issue with how maya's story developed, but i place that squarely on the shoulders of the writers and circumstance! maya, in and of herself, has the capacity to be an amazing character...and certainly has her moments.
Thank You! I have been saying this since Maya came on board!
Dania Ramirez, our Maya, was on Jimmy Kimmel last night. I just found this clip you can watch here:
Dania interview w Jimmy Kimmel
On the same page there is there are two clips from next weeks show ep 7. for next week's show. Scroll down for the Dania clip.
The clip is of Maya on the stretcher.
Sprint spoilers plus Maya and Mo behind the scenes
Also it appears Arthur takes Maya's powers. I don't think she dies of it because Dania is listed in the episode for the Eclipse parts 1& 2
I will be really upset if Maya isn't allowed a Hero's death if she must die, like Eden's. And she really has to have one last confrontation with Sylar for her arc to close naturally.
Oh and if she does die in ep 7. she'll be back because she is listed in into the Eclipse parts 1&2
Oh and if she does die in ep 7. she'll be back because she is listed in into the Eclipse parts 1&2
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