So, we saw Daddy Petrelli take Adams ability. Adam only had one, with that gone the last 400 years caught up with him. Quickly.

So my question is did he take Peters base power as well as all the others he had sponged of everyone else? Can peter absorb any new powers?

If this is the case, how is Peter going to them back? Asides from the serum, which, although is a good & easy way of powering him up so to speak, i don't think they'll do...

But is there another way for Peter to get back to the level he was at?

Would it have anything to do with Hiro? Taking him to a time where he can power up again? Or better yet - maybe arthur didn't take Sylars IA. Maybe he couldn't? Sorta similar to the first season when the company couldn't detect that particular ability? So peters gonna have to do a sylar & start scalping to regain his powers?

And another thing which was bugging me. In I am become death, peter has the scar, which more than lightly comes after he's been de-powered by dad, yet has loads of abililites at the time. Way more than present peter has...does this mean, in that timeline he's already dealt with dad and got his powers back, or does he now have no powers?

time travel doncha just love it?

I think these are all excellent questions. There is one more that has been bugging me, and I haven't seen anyone address it yet.

How long does Arthur keep the abilities that he has absorbed..we all seem to be assuming that he keeps them permanently, but what if they are more like "charges" one time use (or possibly bestowing upon someone else) and then he doesn't have it any more? What I mean is, what if he took adam's power, activated it once to heal from his illness/injury, then doesn't have it any more. That would make him have to be much more strategic about how he uses his powers, and could explain why he feels it is necessary to keep the other villains around now that he's healthy again. Why not just take all their powers and go on a rampage unless he needs to be able to "re-fuel" when he's running out of abilities?

Maybe that is just me wanting him to have some kind of limit to his power, but it has been racing around my brain for two days now so I wanted to throw it out there.

The people they've shown us with an ability to take other abilities keep them permanently, barring outside interference. Until they show us otherwise, it's reasonable to assume that Arthur does as well.

And every character, no matter how powerful, is limited by their personality and mentality. We'll find Arthur to be the same once we get to know him.

I think the questions you're asking just haven't been explained yet. We've only seen Arthur use his powers twice so far.

I'm sure we'll get more explanation as it goes along because right now all we have is speculation.

Do you have to know you have a power to be able to use it? We've seen Peter use them as a reflex for defense or when his hands were tied. Does anyone know that Hiro can time travel or freeze time other than Peter and Ando? Future Matt didn't know and he was with the company. I don't think anyone knows. Daphne knows he can freeze time. Maybe Arthur only took the powers Peter was trying to use to escape his grasp. I think he probably has all of them but I don't know if he knows which one's he has. In the previews Peter tells Arthur that he's going to cause the end of the world and Arthur says he doesn't think so. You'd think he'd check the future out for himself.

After Arthur hugs Peter he says : "You don't have your abilities anymore, Peter...because I have them now."

He uses the plural. So he has ALL of them But I don't think he has Peter's base sponge ability because, really, how would he take that? It would just go around in a loop of the two absorbing each other.

Besides, we know that Peter gets thrown off the Pinhearst building and survives, probably because he falls right next to Claire. I'm guessing he reabsorbs her ability.

I would think that if papa took his abilities and not his main empathy ability that peter would have just reabsorbed all the of powers again instantly from Arthur.

And as for falling off the building, dont forget that Angela sends Sylar to Pinehearst to save Peter, so when he falls off the building Sylar could just use his TK to save him

I think the only way Peter is going to get his abilities back is from the formula

Good point...

well in my opinion, he took em all - adam only had one ability, and that was certainly gone...

my best guess is he couldnt take sylars IA from peter..

Of couse he'll either get them or a new power back - but it sets up Arthur to be the ultimate Big Bad.

Or maybe Papa Petrelli's absorbed abilities keep their original "code" that would just confuse Peter's mosiac DNA? It would pick up on those abilities, but then be like "wait, that genetic code is ours we don't need that" Kind of like how Peter can't double up on powers?

Yeah, that is a weird theory but I'm just throwing it out there...

edit: I just really hate the idea of Peter getting powers from injection.

I dont think the formula would work like that. It could give Peter a completely different ability.

And if he did get his empathy back, he would be at square one with no abilities unless he absorbed all of Papa or Sylars. He would be back to being the whiney Emo kid from the first couple of episodes.

Yeah but since one of the main characters has had his powers stripped, and they revealed they could give anyone abilities, it seems pretty obvious that they would do that



Mohinder said that abilities manifest differently in different people, so Peter would still have his empathy ability if he was injected with the formula

Well there is always the idea that Arthur has the ability to take one of his powers and transfer it permanently to someone else. Future Peter stuffed Present Peter completely inside another person using some ability he got from who knows where, so it's not a stretch to think that someone can stuff an ability in someone as well. And I would guess if anyone could do it then it would be Arthur.

The other 3 possibilities I can think of are he never gets his powers back, Arthur dies and everyone gets their powers back, or a formula injection.