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Alordo
And one of them has a difficult time keeping electrical discharge from overloading. 'Nuff said.
SuperT
What other option did they have? Drive a car? That would have taken days seeing as they were all the way in Costa Verde, CA.
evagolden
And they would have needed 5 or 6 cars, I'm pretty sure Elle would have accidently blowed them up during the trip, especcially with ''Dorothy'' besides her the whole time! tongue.gif (kinda liked this reference!)
DoctorClaude
I liked the scene. Shows that Claire actually is figuring out the advantages to her powers. Not to mention that Claire and Elle have a lot of possibilities when it comes to friendship.
Bubpheenam15
I was seriously sitting in my room thinking, oh boy, some shipping will be done tonight.
iDannPK
It was really stupid for a girl emitting uncontrollable electricity to go on an airplane. I don't care if it was their only option of transportation.

That's all I'm gonna say.
ecspider
Did anyone else find this scene hot?
Leek
Especially a girl who doesn't like to fly.
MewtRandell
It was a bit silly that they chose a plane of all means of transportation, knowing how unstable Elle's ability was. That being said, it made for some really character interaction, so all in all it was good.
evagolden
QUOTE (DoctorClaude @ Oct 27 2008, 10:21 PM) *
I liked the scene. Shows that Claire actually is figuring out the advantages to her powers. Not to mention that Claire and Elle have a lot of possibilities when it comes to friendship.


Hey, you know what, that's kinda true, they should end up as friends, those two sexy blondes! And have pijama parties and all... (sorry, it's getting late! lol). But I'm serious, they work well together! And since Elle seems to have no family anymore, I don't know, maybe Noah and Sarah could adopt her, too! tongue.gif

I do hope she won't lose her ability however! How else will she ''shock'' guys afterward? laugh.gif
Xodus
It was dumb that she got on that plane, but it was the fastest way for them to get there.

I find it funny that people always complain about the logistics of travel on the show and when they finally show people traveling people complain about that now. lol
Boingy420
QUOTE (ecspider @ Oct 27 2008, 07:28 PM) *
Did anyone else find this scene hot?



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Alordo
I wasn't complaining about them using a plane. I just thought it was not overly bright considering the situation, fastest way or not. smile.gif
iDannPK
In the writer's defense, they probably chose the one time in television history to show the travel between scenes, simply for the fact that Elle + overloading electricity + fear of flying + plane ride = lawlz.

They like putting characters into situations they probably wouldn't be able to handle. It makes the scene more interesting. :]
spiderfrommars
Things dumb about that scene:

Even with the time it saved, the number of lives (everyone on the plane except claire) put at risk seems to be a bit of a steep price for a more quick and efficient mode of transportation.

No one else on the plane thought it was odd that there was one person screaming at a person who is literally surging with visible electricity.

And lastly, I feel like the electricity wouldn't have just stopped in claire's body, but I'm not an expert on that or anything.
Joshman12
All I know is that the scene was about two girls discovering their sexuality with some really ELECTRIC results.


Here's another one...

The sexual tension between the two of them was ELECTRIFYING.


I love both blondes.
BluEyedGrl105
QUOTE (Joshman12 @ Oct 27 2008, 08:03 PM) *
All I know is that the scene was about two girls discovering their sexuality with some really ELECTRIC results.


Here's another one...

The sexual tension between the two of them was ELECTRIFYING.


I love both blondes.


I knew every straight male was thinking that... rolleyes.gif
RubberDucky
wait - how did she get from london to cali w/out flying - that would be one long boat trip (doubtful)
IGotSuperPowers
QUOTE (Bubpheenam15 @ Oct 27 2008, 07:26 PM) *
I was seriously sitting in my room thinking, oh boy, some shipping will be done tonight.


Mhmm happy.gif

I knew they'd end up holding hands at somepoint durring the scene. laugh.gif
slingtheory
QUOTE (BluEyedGrl105 @ Oct 27 2008, 11:13 PM) *
I knew every straight male was thinking that... rolleyes.gif


not all of us lol. i was to busy wondering why a overloading electric girl decided to get on a plane
IGotSuperPowers
QUOTE (BluEyedGrl105 @ Oct 27 2008, 09:13 PM) *
I knew every straight male was thinking that... rolleyes.gif

And one girl. biggrin.gif
Bombsmoke
QUOTE (iDannPK @ Oct 27 2008, 07:34 PM) *
In the writer's defense, they probably chose the one time in television history to show the travel between scenes, simply for the fact that Elle + overloading electricity + fear of flying + plane ride = lawlz.

Agreed!

I liked this scene, it established character.

Normally scenes that only establish character and do nothing to forward the plot should be omitted, but I found this scene to be one of the episode's highlights. laugh.gif
spiderfrommars
QUOTE (slingtheory @ Oct 28 2008, 12:46 AM) *
not all of us lol. i was to busy wondering why a overloading electric girl decided to get on a plane


I know that everyone i was watching with came to the decision that the only way that we would give them a break on the stupidity of that decision would be if they at least had the two of them cuddle a bit.
taryngabrielle
QUOTE (IGotSuperPowers @ Oct 27 2008, 11:49 PM) *
And one girl. biggrin.gif


Oh, I'm sure more than one was thinking the same.
sumo390
QUOTE (Boingy420 @ Oct 27 2008, 07:31 PM) *
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Me too biggrin.gif
Bombsmoke
This sort-of has to do with Claire and Elle, but... does anyone remember where Claire got that Pinehearst card? The one she shows Elle? In one of the preview clips they show her picking it up at the puppet theater, but I don't remember how she became familiar with Pinehearst. sad.gif I looked back at episode 06 and couldn't find it.
RedWolf
You know what we never did learn how Chandra Suresh compiled his list.

Even if it was the Human Genome Project Claire should be off the grid being adopted by the Company.

Pinehearst?
evagolden
Bombsmoke: I think this puppetmaster scene we saw today was simply a deleted scene from last episode or something.

And she does says she saw the card before, which is true: Vortex-man showed her one when they meeted!


About the plane scene, I agree: electrifying!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
AcesX
LOL to be fair...how else would you have gotten all the way to the east coast from california?

i mean...be serious for like..2 minutes.
StephW
I didn't look at it the same way SOME of YOU guys did. laugh.gif I gotta say though, that was one of my fave scenes in this episode. I loved that whole scene. biggrin.gif
baltar
QUOTE (AcesX @ Oct 28 2008, 09:39 AM) *
LOL to be fair...how else would you have gotten all the way to the east coast from california?

i mean...be serious for like..2 minutes.


The writer's can't seem to catch a break with traveling logistics. If they don't show it their lazy, made a mistake, plot holed, jumped the shark, retconned and every other inacurate statement you could think but now that they did and tried to add a little levity/clarity to the whole situation people still had a problem.

OK, what they should have done is just straight up walk. I would have been the only "logical" way and maybe by the end of the season they would have made it to Pinehearst.

This fanbase is completely unsatisfiable as a group and dysfunctional, but in a cute way.
havok2063
that scene was a little annoying for me...1) these characters should be smart enough to know that an overloading electric girl is not a good thing to bring on a plane ... but I don't really have a problem with that...that was the fastest way for them to travel to Pinehearst and if they didn't show that scene..people would be complaining about how they got there so fast...

my real problem is the eletricity part...I'm a physicist so I just want to clear up the air about that scene ... electricity always wants to flow to a ground and our body is a good conductor of electricity but it will only flow through our bodies if we're connected to a ground...you can't dump electricity into us and not have it go anywhere...

when people get struck by lightning, it's because they are the tallest conductor around in the storm area that is connected to a ground..namely the Earth...we're safe inside cars because, even though the car is on the ground and is made of metal..the actual part of the car that is touching the ground are the tires which are made of rubber and a good insulator...which don't allow electric charges to flow through them.

when people get electrocuted..it's not because they're being zapped with electric charge...it's because that charge is flowing through them

you can touch a electric wire and not be fried as long as you're not touching ground..birds do it all the time

so..claire in the airplane wasn't connected to a ground, so there was no place for the electricity to flow so it never would have discharged into her in the first place
OoJaymanoO
QUOTE (sumo390 @ Oct 28 2008, 02:05 AM) *
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Me too biggrin.gif



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Me three biggrin.gif

I actually was screaming to my tv "MAKE OUT ALREADY!!!!"
RedWolf
You know I find ironic that according to the Tracker 2.0 there is a agent with both the abilities of Claire and Elle.

Inhereting both abilities from her parents. What if she can't feel pain too?
evagolden
lol, havok, I like that, but you are overthinking a little! I know you are right about what you said but, you know, following this physical fact, the electricity Elle uses should always pass throught her directly to the ground, as she is always the closest conductor whenever she uses her power! This is sci-fi here, her electricity can go wherever Elle want it to go! tongue.gif

Anyway, back to the Claire/Elle scene, I've thought about it a lot during the day (yeah, I'm thinking of Heroes a lot even when it doesn't play! lol). Now, I know we all joked around about this and all:

QUOTE
All I know is that the scene was about two girls discovering their sexuality with some really ELECTRIC results.


Here's another one...

The sexual tension between the two of them was ELECTRIFYING.


I love both blondes.


but, seriously, what do you say it really happened? And I'm not saying that just because I'm a guy and all, I'm serious there! We say ''opposites attract'', and there is no characters more opposite than those 2 girls! Also, everyone seems to like the interactions between Claire and Elle whenever they are in the same scene! Call me weird or anything you want, but I'm starting to think it could work, and in an interesting way!

Adding that their embarassement in the plane when they holded hand, and the ''you're perfect'' from Elle (I personnally use this adjective only for girls I'm in love with)... I kinda like to think it's starting! rolleyes.gif
Alessandra
QUOTE (taryngabrielle @ Oct 28 2008, 12:02 AM) *
Oh, I'm sure more than one was thinking the same.
Having fell asleep last night (missed the whole episode *growl*), I watched it online just a few minutes ago...

This scene was all gooood! LOL I could help thinking on the lines of a guy, "Yes, make out already." And "Oooh shock her some more. This is So HOT!"

Does that make me bad?

Post Script ~ These comments were written by a straight female. What can I say? If it's HOT; it's Hot!
SpiderLeaf
QUOTE (MewtRandell @ Oct 27 2008, 10:28 PM) *
It was a bit silly that they chose a plane of all means of transportation, knowing how unstable Elle's ability was. That being said, it made for some really character interaction, so all in all it was good.


How did she get to and from London, England in the GN?
enovak
Also - Elle was sparking pretty brightly and then so was Clair - NO ONE on the plane saw this either sitting behind them or across from them?
Citizen
I liked that scene. I was thinking it might have been the first Heroes airplane scene, but then I remembered Hiro and Ando back in season 1.

I liked Claire's line about Elle being an electronic device.
Wanderlust
QUOTE (DoctorClaude @ Oct 27 2008, 10:21 PM) *
I liked the scene. Shows that Claire actually is figuring out the advantages to her powers. Not to mention that Claire and Elle have a lot of possibilities when it comes to friendship.



QUOTE (ecspider @ Oct 27 2008, 10:28 PM) *
Did anyone else find this scene hot?



QUOTE (Joshman12 @ Oct 27 2008, 11:03 PM) *
All I know is that the scene was about two girls discovering their sexuality with some really ELECTRIC results.


Here's another one...

The sexual tension between the two of them was ELECTRIFYING.


I love both blondes.



I don't even support a particular ship and this scene was... well...
well you know.
Just. They did that on purpose.

You know what else they did on purpose?
Claire wiping down a sweaty Peter with a washcloth. rolleyes.gif
BluEyedGrl105
QUOTE (Wanderlust @ Oct 28 2008, 04:58 PM) *
.You know what else they did on purpose?
Claire wiping down a sweaty Peter with a washcloth. rolleyes.gif


I know! When I saw that I was like "are you trying to make scenes akward for the actors?" That was not standard wounded Uncle behavior!

Anyway, I don't support weird ships (paire, petrellicest) especially because if you watch enough Youtube vids. when you watch the show your like, "oh that could be cut to make it seem..." ya know?

But if they had Elle and Claire have a thing I would be totally 100% okay with it. As long as it doesn't feel like they're doing it just for the males 12-30 viewers and not as a real relationship ::cough:: maya/mohinder::cough::.
Visitor27
QUOTE
Even if it was the Human Genome Project Claire should be off the grid being adopted by the Company.


She's at school, decides to give blood as part of the blood drive and she checks a box "Yes, I want to be apart of the Human Genome Project" - Daddy's away - Mommy doesn't see the trouble for she has no reason to think Claire wasn't adopted legal. Or maybe she doesn't say anything.
Blaize
I liked this scene a lot, although really I'm a big fan of any scenes with Elle in them so wasn't unexpected, anyway, I just wanted to say to the people going on about how it wasn't the most clever idea for Elle to get on a plane.

When have either of these two shown any form of, well, common sense? tongue.gif Claire more than often never thinks things through before acting on impulse, Elle was made out to be an Agent for the company failing in many aspects trying to impress her dad and failing hard so again, I can't imagine her to think things though either, but maybe thats just me?!

That said, regardless of their common sense or lack thereof I still majorly <3 them both and their interactions, scenes together etc are just brilliant...We need more

flyboynathan
I thought this scene was great, especially considering that both Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb have worked on LOST. One thing though... why didn't Elle just not grasp onto the sides of the seat? I understand she was tense, and that's the best grasping surface, but would it have made a difference if she just clung her nails into the cushion of the seat? I understand it has as much to do with the electricity she's emitting vs. conducting, but I'm just curious.
ElectricHAVOK
I think it's amazing how many of the people in the forum here try to assess the validity of this scene...

"It's the fastest way to get there"

then there are people on the other side saying

"They are risking the lives of all those poor people"

I say you are all forgetting whats really going on here... They are both BLONDE... Has nobody taken that into consideration. Did people forget that two blonde cheerleader types are actually incapable of thinking PLANE + HUGE electrical surge device (Elle) = BIG OUCH!

This post in completely 100% and totally a joke so any Blondes out there i am just kidding. I am more thinking the scene is pretty stupid and they should have thought about the risks of what was going to happen i mean great we made it half way to Pinehurst but Elle is in 27 pieces as a result of their plane crash... Oh yeah and poor little bobby's dad won't be coming back from his business trip because Claire and Elle couldnt be bothered to wait just that little bit longer. I mean I don't drive a monster truck to work just so i can drive over and kill all the people in peak hour traffic.

All in all i really don't care that this scene is stupid i mean it's not like i can really argue for the validity of 99% of the things that happen in this show... It's one of the wonders of TV land. I still love the show and im sure you do too.
dcg
The reaction this thread is having to this scene is kind of ridiculous.

I have no problem with Claire and Elle developing a friendship and working together.
Why does the relationship have to go anywhere else?

I would have liked the idea of Claire and Elle getting passage on a small plane, like a 3 or 5 seater.
I was ok with the scene overall though.
BadWolfX
I didn't notice anything until someone made a comment about it and now the scene is in a whole different light to me.

And I don't even ship woman together.
evagolden
dcg: Sure, it would be fun they had a friendship, those two! It would also be fun to see, you know, a more romantic kind of relationship! You gotta admit that this kind of relationship appears rarely in media, and I admit that building up this kind or relationship in media without stereotypes can be pretty hard but, personnally, I think Claire and Elle/Hayden and Kristen's chemestry on-screen is good enought to make this kind of relationship works out, as long as the writers write it well, of course! But anyway, i doubt it will happen... We can always dream! lol

ElectricHAVOK (how comes your name fits the discussion so well? lol): The thing is, they needed to go the fastest way possible! I discussed that somewhere else. You remember the discussion the two girls had in the Bennet's house? How Elle's live was pure agony, that she can't eat or sleep anymore, etc. Anyway, my point his, there were an emergency here! They had took a car, they would have been there in, I'd say, 2-3 days (I'm not familiar with long distances, but i think it's realistic enought), for which Elle would have died of starving, if the electricity in her body wouldn't have killed her by then. So, yeah, they risked other people's life, but everyone was fine, right? Yet if they went by car, one individual, Elle (maybe 2: Who knows what would have happened to Peter if Elle and Claire didn't showed up at this exact point? But this one is unsure, I admit it), would have been killed. I guess it's the results that count, right? tongue.gif
AcesX
honestly, i just don't think anyone on that plane cared that ellle was sparking, or that any of them were paying attention to her and claire...

..it seemed like they were all too busy worrying about not dying!
GoldSeven
Actually, I think it was meant to be a scene where we, as the audience, should think: "Ouch. I know where this is going."
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