Peter fell 7 stories and survived.. how is this possible..

Did i miss something.. He can't heal right..

What good is he with out the powers anyway

why does arthur still want him around?

He said it himself in the episode. Sylar saved him.

Yep and since this show is all about twists that means it was probably really Arthur who saved him so Peter could go back and tell Nathan about daddio.

I think his daddy saved him... I wasn't really able to catch what his dad said when he was talking to Sylar about it... but from what I understood, he hinted that HE saved Pete.
But maybe I'm wrong.
And Peter wouldn't know WHO saved him, just that one of them did.

Of course Peter wouldn't think that Dad kept him from dying, he's more ticked at Dad than Sylar at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if Arthur saved him though.

I am curious about what Arthur is planning. He did say he's not going to let the future play out the way Peter saw it. Hmm.

Based on Arthur's suspicion of Gabriel after he saved Peter I don't think it was part of Arthur's plan.

edit: Lindermen said "The greater the fall, the higher the ascension." I think we'll get a new and improved Peter when all this is done.

thats so true (last sentence)

anyways, i'm sure sylar saved him. you can read it all over his face after the incident (it was either that or quinto was doing a bad job there acting).

I think Arthur was testing Sylar to see if he KNEW that he/himself kept Peter alive AND how he'd react.

Good point...

I think Sylar's too easy to manipulate (I could be wrong). I think it's Arthur that saved him.

Nah, after Sylar touched Arthur and used Clairsentience he knows exactly his history. He saved Peter and is playing Arthur to see where this all goes. Sylar has IA and Clairsentience and an ego, he wouldn't be too easy to manipulate...

A second after it went to commercial break I realized:OH S#$% PETER CAN'T HEAL ANYMORE!

Yeah, Sylar is playing in to what Arthur wants so he can find out what Arthur's big plan is. Sylar may very well crave a parental connection but he won't let that fog his need to find out the facts. Mom may have sent him but he's on his own mission now.

When he took that swan dive I screamed "WHAT!" and my stepdad started laughing at me.

I really think it was Sylar who saved him. We don't really know where Sylar's real allegiance falls... even though Arthur told Sylar that Angela tried to drown him as a baby, Sylar might've actually saved Peter for his mother. I don't think Sylar would just turn over to Arthur's side so easily.


The show really needs to hint that this "Clairsentience" is actually happening in the episode.

this "Clairsentience" business is confusing. it hasn't been hinted at all in the show, but anyone who follows the GNs and takes part on these boards knows what Sylar can do now and ties all these lines and moments with "Clairsentience".. but honestly people who just watch the show have no cluw about this power. it hasn't been talked about at all on the show. or have i overlooked something? i gotta rewatch the first few episodes now...

so i wonder right now.. is he using it secretly in a way that only the elite fans are able to recognize? and what would be the point of this?

It was talked about it in the show (Angela) and its written allover the emails Bridget and Mohinder had going for a while. Additionaly it was also added in the wiki. Too lazy to watch or to read?
Sorry if it sounds harsch but I'm starting getting tired reading about it in like every thread of this episode sylar was involved with.

This ability works on OBJECTS only, he can touch arthur or anyone else as much as he wants and he will get NOTHING. It just doesn't work this way. -.-

By claiming this in like every thread you are only confusing yourselfs and others that are reading without knowing yet. :/

I did the same thing when Matt had an arm going through him

I think when Peter came back for Gabriel he earned his trust. If Peter just took off and left Gabriel to rot in Pinehearst in would've been so ****** off, it would be very out-of-character for Peter.
With or without his powers Peter still shows love, even when Gabriel smashed him out of the window. I think their bond will be the key to Peter getting his powers back, and Gabriel staying good.

Not sure if that could mean something but when Sylar's on the floor, Arthur is giving his hand (the one with the ring) so Sylar might have touched the ring and see the past?

hmmmm that ring thing is a good idea.... since it's like.. the Petrelli heirloom thing.

Besides why do people keep calling him sylar when his name is gabriel and he has been using that name.

Gabriel did not have a power. Sylar is the one with powers. He has gone by Sylar more than Gabriel. It will be hard to stop calling him Sylar.

Actually, Gabriel is Sylar, and Gabriel did have an ability. Gabriel had IA (Intuitive Aptitude) which allowed him to see how things work. He took the name Sylar after the watch, but it was Gabriel with IA. Gabriel is still Sylar's real name because they are the same person.

It's just easier writing Sylar than Gabriel since Sylar is a shorter name.

The original characters/fans know him as Sylar even though his given name is Gabriel. Peter, Noah, Mohinder, Claire, etc. still call him Sylar because they still think of him as the killer. I think most fans know that the names are used interchangeably depending on the situation/topic. He is trying to lose the "Sylar/killer" image but we've gotten so accustomed to calling him Sylar that's it's easy to keep doing so.

people who think Sylar is using bridgett's power are reading too much into it. on this show, whenever someone uses a power it is hinted at either by sound, visual effects, or a long focus on something. none of that has happened, so i must believe that the writers are not trying to indicate to us that sylar is using this power, when/if he does i'm sure it will be clear enough for everyone to "get"/

That's out of line to call the guy (or lady) too lazy. There are many who may even visit boards like this to discuss some parts of the show but don't dive as deep as some into the off screen extras such as the GN's and the emails. In fact, those of us in the U.S. were only able to see the emails (unless things changed) from those who were getting them in the extras that were provided only to overseas markets.

Also, that ability was only briefly mentioned at the very opening of the episode where Sylar took that power. I know there have been many times where I didn't get home until after the opening scene already played. If I was someone who hadn't read the threads that showed those emails, i'd be lost as well.



Well, actually, the angle that they used when Arthur extended his hand focused primarily on the hand and that hinted that he may have used it to see the past. (or they just did it to make us all talk about it) What I wonder is if Sylar used that ability on Angela to see if she told the truth about being his mother, shouldn't he have seen that whole bathtub scene if it really happened?


**haha...i keep forgetting that if you reply quickly multiple times to a thread that your postings merge together. hmmm i think the morning coffee is finally kicking in**

I was sure that when Sylar saved Claire from that vortex he used Bridgett's power. He said afterwards he realized all the pain he had caused. Maybe I did read too much into it, but seemed like an odd empthatic epithany to have at that particular time

Peter will get his powers back just as strong as before. However, he will be badly hurt before he gets his healing ability back, hence Future Peter's scar.

One of the first powers Peter recognized was flight (yes I know it wasn't his first power but even his early dreams involved flight). And he gained that from his brother. I think the emotional connection to that power is so strong that Arthur wasn't able to completely wipe it out. Peter's powers relate to his emotions; Arthur's are all about control and lack of emotion. He thinks he wiped Peter's powers, but his brotherly connection was too strong. Just enough of Peter's flight ability kicked in so he slowed himself.

I still think that Arthur stopped Peter from dying. Having Sylar on his (Arthur's) team would be really handy. So maybe Arthur is still trying to convince Sylar that he is the good guy by not letting Peter die. Him pointing this out to Sylar is his way of saying "hey son, i love you boys Angela is the crazy child killing one in the family." This will help him bring Sylar closer to trusting him. Just a thought...

I think it's funny because for someone who can "see how things work" Sylar sure gets played by a lot of people. He is just walking around going "will you be my mummy?"

EH: No, I don't think Sylar is being played. He's being offered chances, and he takes them, and sees where they lead him. He's very confident in his own strength and thinks he's pretty much in charge whatever he does.

Plus - he knows how things work. People are different.

I totally agree with you and i can't wait. I'm sick of seeing future peter being the strong one. Future peter having control of his powers. future peter kicking butt. The scar is what makes him "future Peter" and now he can't heal he can get his pretty face cut up and we can have what we have all been waiting for!!

See there are some points in the story that i think you are right but other times i just think he is just becoming another Peter. Anyone who is lead by their emotions in this story gets played by the ones who are driven by a greater focus. Now yeah sure the good seems to win in the end but far out the good guys in this show are so stooooopid. =P

I know that people react differently in situations they dont work like a clock but ones that are driven by a single motivation of power should be easy enough to read. I mean he learns his powers from looking at how the peoples brains work so.. Gah i dunno what i think anymore this show is complex im just glad there is someone like Hiro still running around trying to make things happen on his terms. He is in my opinion the only real hero left in the show, although i know a lot of you will disagree.

It was in the first or second episode. Sylar is tied down, Angela brings in Bridget, explains her ability and Sylar says "what is she going to do with me" and she replies "feed you". The next mention of it was when Sylar saved Claire from the vortex dude (bubs), and afterwards he says something like 'when I touched you I felt your feelings I'm sorry for what I did to you'. That's heavily paraphrased! In short, yes it's been mentioned on the show, granted not very much, but it has been mentioned.

I'd also like to point out that you never once see Sylar take Arthurs hand to get up. Its likely he never touched him for fear of losing his abilities.

please show me proof that it ONLY works on objects..if so, then how did he see all the pain he caused Claire when he held her hand to save her from the black hole a few episodes back?

Please don't say it's IA because that wouldn't make sense , that just means (he understands how it works)

I know this is speculation, but I do wonder if Peter's injuries came from going through the glass and not the ground. That is, I wonder if both Arthur and Sylar saved him. He really didn't seem to hit the ground that hard.

I believe that future peter can't heal.. and basically gets separated from claire so he can't get her powers and hence the scar.. he can time travel.. and other powers he will start to get but can't have claires power either she loses them to arthur or gets separated from peter

But, as indicated in the GN for "IABD," Peter has been following Claire and made drect communication with her, thus indicating he obtained her ability. It's much more plausible that Peter merely obtained his scar in between getting his powers taken and getting them back (if he does).

I think it was both. He has a few shallow cuts from the glass, and the way he moves later in his apartment looks as if he hurt his shoulder in the fall. But I suppose we can say it's a given he didn't hit the ground nearly as hard as he should have. I don't think it was both of them, though. Peter thinks it was Sylar and Sylar certainly didn't seem surprised, so I'm going with that too.

I would be very very very surprised if it was Arthur that saved Peter.



Sylar had that sarcastic "Hmm, Gee dad I don't know" look on his face that kids do when the are trying to get away with stuff.

I doubt Sylar would be so quick to jump the gun.

And Arthur has the matching "Don't think I didn't notice that" look on his face.

I tried seeing it the other way round, but it doesn't work as well.

But then, I think Arthur still wants Peter alive too - he was probably counting on Sylar to not let him die.

Future Gabriel/Sylar and Future Peter are good friends, remember him hugging Present Peter in the future?

That surely means that Sylars the one that stopped the fall or else Peter wouldve never forgiven him and they wouldnt be friends in the future, plus i doubt the grin after arthurs question was just bad acting.

Also, Angela feeding Gabriel/Sylar with Bridget seems way more important than just the beginning of an episode, she did that with a very good reason, maybe this way Sylar would understand more of peoples history and pain and could become a bit more empathic towards others thus becoming more human and less of a killing monster.

Seeing by saying that you didnt take the time to see how long i have been on the boards. If you would of read my profile you would of known i have been watching the show since season 1.

This is true except when it isn't. Often the use of powers isn't revealed- examples: when Hiro 'killed' Ando (in that case they showed the 'use' in the next episode,) or how Sylar approached without making noise before killing Dale Smithers (we can assume he used TK to levitate.)

Some powers like IA or the Haitian's have no special effects attached (unless in the second case you count people trying to use powers and being unable.) If what you are suggesting were true, Sylar has never used Clairsentience at all. How likely do you think it is that Sylar gained a power and has never bothered to test it at all? Given his hunger for knowledge associated with Intuitive Aptitude, I think it's safe to assume that he uses Clairsentience constantly to feed that hunger.

I believe based upon the following evidence that Clairsentience does work on people:

1) Sylar could feel Claire's pain.
2) Sylar inexplicably knew HRG drank decaf.
3) After he gained the power, Sylar never again questioned the fact that Angela truly was his mother.
4) His personality change/proof of artificial conscience- saving Angela from Peter, saving Claire from the vortex (even after he had taken her power and therefore was useless to the old Sylar,) saving Peter by breaking his fall. It's now harder for him to do harm or to see harm done to people since he knows so much about them. Suddenly people are more to him than just powers to steal. He's even capable of remorse for those he's killed in the past ( as we saw by telling Angela he belongs locked up in Primatech.)

Very likely. He has several powers he doesn't use - Zane Taylor's he only used to trick Mohinder. If Clairsentience only works on objects - which is what Angela said and I believe her - then Sylar simply might not see a use for it.

Angela was touching Bridget when she ushered her into Sylar's cell. If Clairsentience did work on people, Bridget would never have gone in there!



1) When? Just after she'd knifed him, by any chance? I do think that was his own pain he was feeling.
2) If Sylar used Clairsentience to figure that out, the scene wouldn't be a fraction as funny! He was knocking Noah, nothing else.
3) Because she was the only person who ever accepted him for what he was, and that is the key for 4) and his remorse as well. Sylar has felt remorse before - when he went back to reconcile with the woman he thought was his mother. When he realised he wasn't good enough for her and she would never accept him for what he is, he killed her, and went ahead with his idea to blow up NYC. Now along comes somebody who is special (=worthy of his admiration), and who tells him that she loves him. I do buy that this gives him pause, and makes him try to fit in with what she expects of him.

But I still think that he's just playing the others as well as being played. Angela, Arthur, AND Sylar are all still sorting out who's on which side, and Sylar, in particular, is waiting for what he has to gain where. He's trying to figure out what Daddy has to offer him, but doesn't quite want to give up on Mommy yet - so he saves Mommy's favourite son, just in case.

I would be very, very surprised if Sylar remained a good guy past episode thirteen. And I'm pretty sure it'll be getting dropped by his mother that does it for him. Again.

Very good point.

I actually don't understand how the theory of Clairsentience working on people has become so popular, when we were clearly told by Angela how it works.


I agree. I guess what they showed us in the future episode will never come true. They did it to show the possibility of taking some characters to unexpected extremes. So they can play with that now, pushing characters like Claire or Sylar into a certain direction - but in the end they will not end up there, I'm pretty sure.

My bad - I rewatched it and she didn't usher her in after all.

Apparently, what makes people sure it works on people was in a GN, from what I've gathered in another thread... from the show, I was pretty certain it's objects only, from the object's "point of view". And since this is something where the show and a GN contradict each other, and it would be impossible to understand that particular aspect without the Evolutions content, I'll take what the show says over what the GN says.

GN? No, I think it was the BBC Evolutions content - all we got were some emails describing her power. It's perfectly feasible that she didn't have the best control over it and therefore could only see object's histories and Sylar with his fantastic control through the use of his IA can utilise it better/it simply evolved.

BBC Evolution? What's that?

Someone said that it had implied Bridget knew how to use it on people, how she knew about someone's emotions... but I might have misread.

A human body meets the definition of an object.