When Ando was telling Hiro "You need to go to these moments! And find out how to defeat these villians!" in Usutu's hut, we see Arthur Petrelli and Knox as well as a bespectacled head-slicer... anyone has any idea who the latter might be?

I can't seem to do screencaps at the moment, so any help will be appreciated!

Gabriel Gray pre Sylar.

GG was my guess, but he never actually head-sliced until he was Sylar. When he killed Brian Davis, I'm pretty sure he had to open his skull the old-fashioned way, since he didn't have TK yet.

So this is a continuity error, or there's another head-slicer out there, or Sylar head-sliced as GG off-camera sometime and we don't know who that victim is. Very curious.

I wanted to think it was Sylar/Gabriel Gray too, but the guy in this episode's painting and the earlier ones of Sylar/Gabriel Gray looked so different...

Its GG. Hes wearing glasses in the preview of the next episode and hes slicing heads while wearing his glasses. My guess is that its him.

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Definitely Gabriel/Sylar in his early kills.

We've gotten so used to seeing Usutu paint things that have already occurred (they were the future when he painted them, but are the past when we see them), but these all look like they are still in the future. I don't remember Knox breaking down any brick walls, and the Pa Petrelli one is pretty generic I guess, but I haven't really seen him standing all statuesque and important looking like that either.

Well who else do we know that slices heads? lol

I think it's Molly Walker.

Seriously, of course its Sylar during his first kills. And LowerTheBar, Usutu said he painted many of the Matt paintings when he was a child, so it's very likely the Sylar one was painted a while back while the others are still yet to be fulfilled.

Obviously Gabriel Gray. No one else could have that likeness at the moment. My problem with it is that in the beginning, he focused on paintings of Matt. Now that he's gone, he seems to have switched subjects. No problem there. However, how could Usutu paint things that happened in the past? That seems the opposite of how his powers work. Any thoughts?

I'm guessing he had already painted it.

That would make sense, but again, the subject of his earlier paintings was Matt. He seems to have abandoned that now that he's helped Matt, and moved on to helping take down Pinehearst, which the Gabriel painting is part of.

He could be painting what Hiro sees in his "spirit walk" (namely Sylar's past), just like he painted what Matt saw.

Not necessarily, Isaac drew Claire for a number of paintings before he mastered his ability, before moving on to other subjects as his mastery of his ability increased.

Usutu might easily have been the same. Painting Matt as a child before painting other things as he grew older.

That's what I thought too, but again, it's a past vs. future issue with me. Isn't precog to see the future? How would Hiro's spirit walk pretain to the future, when it takes place in the past?

same thing can be said about the Hiro/Adam (Kensei) battle paiting from Isaac's series of 8 in season 2. This battle happened in 1671 Japan and was painted QUITE a while later.

mabe it works both ways?

or is focused on a persons personal timeline.

I completely forgot about that! And now I agree with LP in that it focuses on someone's personal timeline. In this case, Hiro. There goes my gripe! Problem solved!

Because the painting represented Hiro's future, not the past in general.

And flyboynathan, maybe Hiro's destiny is to stop Arthur Petrelli, and we "know" his spirit walk into the past might help him do that.

Definitely. It wasn't that that threw me off, but the whole past vs. future thing. And now that that's been solved, no gripe! No longer confused! And now I feel as stupid as I did when it was revealed that Matt & Daphne didn't really die.

I thought they had died too, so add me to the stupid list.

Back on-topic, anyone think we'll get new paintings in the following weeks?

I think what said earlier caused some confusion..which was also subsequently cleared up in my absence. I just meant that Usutu did his paintings of Matt while he was a child (presumably 20-30 yrs ago or more) but we didn't see them until after those events came to pass. So we've gotten kind of used to look at the paintings and thinking that they had already happened, and then we try to place when each one of them was.

So I'm saying that this new painting we've been shown is actually still in the future. And I also do think they're recent paintings by Usutu. I think these events wouldn't have happened for him to paint without the "butterfly effect" that fPeter caused.

Interesting that he changed his theme, but maybe all of the recent stuff with Matt actually switched his focus to Pinehearst, with seeing the future and the split and all. But then again, he did paint the world splitting before he saw Matt, so maybe he had a Pinehearst focus before.

Lots of maybes. lol

Yes. My thoughts are that the painting was also done in the past. Probably before it happened.

Another question, why is it less acceptable to paint things that have already happened? I know he's a precog, but there's nothing to say he didn't see that ages ago in his head, but only got round to painting it recently when he remembered it.

I think a pre-cog with highly evolved powers could paint something no matter when it happened. In s1, Isaac was asked to find Peter and he consistently painted the present. If a precog can see things that happen one place in a timeline, they should be able to see things that happen anywhere in a timeline. They'd make great policemen actually...

"Who killed this man?"

"Hold on a sec, let me get my water colors out."

I don't think it was necessarily all that long ago. The way Usutu uses the word "child" seems to indicate that it was before he understood what it was to be a man, i.e. before his spirit walk/rite of passage. To me that means that it could refer to any time in the past regardless of his physical age. Though, I'd still think it to be at least a few years ago.

When I saw the painting I thought 'Gabriel Gray after he got TK.'

1) Either this was painted before GG commited this murder.
2) Or this represents a future GG as we saw when Peter travelled to the future.
3) Or this represents a future-past GG- as in Hiro will travel back in time to witness this event, or perhaps stop it and once again change the time line.