She's proberly my favourite character (followed by Elle, Claire, Meredith and Sylar) shes was really good in last nights episode, especially in the funeral bit!

She's my fav too! Her story is so tragic.

She knew what to do when Arthur was getting out of hand, which makes me admire the character. I like how in s1, we all thought she was just a mother oblivious to everything. Go figure.

I always saw in there a women who loved her kids, somewhere...

What is so amazing about Angela ... is I think it wasn't just finding out the deception breaking her heart - the man she trusted and loved having done that and gone so far as to kill her baby, but it dawned on me that the flooding of all those bad memories at one time must mess with someone emotional and as she told Peter "I wanted to feel alive again." - the sentiment may be correct. She lost her life and a little of he heart died with Arthur.

I laughed at how I thought she was just a crazy old sock stealer in season 1, I love her character so much now and the other poster was right her story is realy tragic its what makes me like her more.

Its like a Greek tragedy her life. I love. And how her heart was burned it mades her story even more so,

I heart Angela. There's an appreciation thread for her on this forum somewhere. Too lazy to link it right now.

What I want to know is, how did she end up eventually going along with the bomb plot, a plot that would have meant the death of Peter if he had never met Claire. She's painted as a woman who would do anything for her children, yet she's still party to this scheme that would bring about the death of one of them?

They (the elder generation) stopped at least one tragedy (the tidal wave turned snow storm). We've seen them (the youngers) "save the world" a few times, and there is always a bigger threat left, afterward. The elders probably stopped so many that they realized they had to let one hit, in order to stop them once, and for all.

Yes, it seems they felt it was so inevitable why not try and make the world a better place then mess it up fruitlessly trying to stop it.



Even Issac's painting doesn't show WHO the bomb is and Angela never mentions Peter is the bomb until the final episode of season one - she for sure didn't know here as she says "Peter will be a great man (once he manifests)" On the side note I wonder if the plan was always tell the kids about their powers when they manifest (like you've become a man now, lol) but after Arthur's death Angela had a change in plans and felt it was best they stayed in the dark and away from a life at the Company.

Anyway, and I've always felt this, I think the issue is Angela didn't know WHO the bomb was and when Linderman did, after what he knows, he would have been wise to keep it from her.

I always found it fishy she never brings up Peter when convincing Nathan or when talking to Charles (They just argue about which brother will save the world). And we know how her dreams are so filled with images and metaphors and she was unable to know Peter or Arthur were alive.

It's actually quit just deserts with Angela. Much like when Peter says "I don't care unless it effects someone I know" Or even HRG, he didn't care who Sylar killed not knowing one day he would go after his own daughter and maybe if he had stopped him then. Even if they knew it was a person she was okay with someone else's son blowing up and low and behold it's your own son.

I hope one day we keep going on from AFTER Arthur's death and Angela and Linderman during season one stuff.

So, I think the best answer is she just didn't know Peter was the bomb. And after all until Hiro messed with time, Sylar was the bomb and who knows if she even rememebered he was alive because of Arthur. Or if she wouldn't absolve it would save many more lives if he we're dead. She only told him she was his mother when she neeed him to help her save the world.

I really do think she freaked out and tried to kill him. He must have scared the hell out of her after what she saw - prob couldn't even look at him. How terrible for a mother to have to go through. And it fits Angela very well. I offren wonder if Sylar was born after they put Adam away if she felt it was punishment for their sins. As Arthur says "Has she forgiven you of your sins?"

I think this is still hotly debated, and I for one don't think Sylar was ever the bomb. I think the GN "String Theory" is misinterpreted by some readers. However, this isn't the place to argue it.


I need to re-watch season 1 I guess, but I was fairly certain she knew Peter was the bomb from several of her off-hand remarks. The conversation she had with Charles Deveaux comes to mind, but I can't remember any of the specific dialogue.

In the season finale, Angela and Charles discuss whether Peter should help lead the world instead of Nathan after the bomb, NOT whether Peter is going to be the bomb. It was Sylar, at the time.

I always thought that she knew, from maybe one of her dreams or something, that Peter would end up meeting Claire and he would end up the bomb but would survive the explosion...

I agree, its been debated enough.





I know that scene very well and they debate on WHO will save the world, she or Charles never mention that Peter will be a bomb, just that Nathan is strong to lead and pick up the pieces after the bomb, while Peter is weak. And I ask you if Charles knew Peter was the bomb he sure is calm for a person who cares so much about Peter.

I know some people see the scene different, but show me where she says Peter is the bomb, or Charles. The debate is who will save the world and how.

Charles believes it should be with out the bomb with love and compassion and "that's Peter"

Angela believes it's on fear and strength and Nathan will be the one to lead them all.

And I'd think telling Nathan "don't worry Peter won't die" would be important to her convincing him and she never brings it up, but that can be debatable, I can see that.

But she never says Peter is the bomb - it's Peter and Love vs. Nathan and strength.

Charles:I think Linderman's betting on the wrong brother here..( he talks about how Peter has love and compastion in his eyes and that's what will save the world)
Angela: "Charles don't get me wrong I love Peter, but that poor kid can barely get out of his own way. He's ruled by insecurities. He's weak. No. trust me. This bomb is going to go off and Nathan will be the one the world turns too."

Still, I think by Angela's "He'll be a great man once he manifests' shows at this point she didn't know he was the bomb and the plan had been in the works for years.



Possible, but she sure did try and keep them apart and she didn't seem to know that Sylar would kill Claire, which was history number one - I'd think she would want to stop that.

But if anything in this episode she didn't know because she said "he'll be a great man one day" I think she saw him as something more than a scape goat for her plans.

I can't believe I thought they were talking about the bomb for over a year until I rewatched the episode recently.

It's okay Citzen, most people did - I think a bias (as in an idea about her maybe) toward Angela in retrospect of the episode did that. I often have to tell people to watch it again. If you really listen to what they are saying it's very clear its a debate on who will lead, not who is the bomb - well not literally.

Got over it.

Angela Appreciation Thread

Also, vote to get Cristine Rose an Emmy here.

I think that Angela in this episode completely discredits Arthur's story about Angela drowning Gabriel. It seems as if in this episode she wasn't the ruthless character we saw in Season 2 and Season 3, but just a housewife part of an organization with abilities. We even saw Linderman in a different light! It all goes back to "Landslide," when Linderman said, "We tried to help the world, but some of us lost their way." I completely believe him now and that's what this episode did so well, showcase the schism in the Company.

I totally agree, BUT I don't see killing Sylar as Ruthless at all, I see it as human and someone with a conscious after seeing all that death, being frightened, maybe seeing all the blood and death of your loved ones and others when you look in your babies eyes, mixed in with hormones I could see someone doing it. She knew her dreams came true, she would be saving so many people - I don't see it as ruthless, messed up, but not ruthless, I don't think for a second she wasn't crying as she did it.

But we'll see for I don't beleive Arthur, but I think it would add another tragic level to Angela. And Again I don't find it ruthless.

In this respect, she's like the evil warlock, Richard.

I've been a fan of this idea since the first season. Sooner or later, something's got to give.

Angela last night blew me away. I thought she was a pretty good character in the sense that you always know there's something more to her than she's willing to let on. Seeing how she was before Linderman healed her as well as her interaction with him, how far she was willing to go to protect her son, and how she came to see things more clearly at Arthur's funeral was just amazing.

I can now say that she is one of my favorite characters.

This warms my heart.

I think that I really don't need to either mention that Angela was and still is one of my favorites through all the seasons, nor that I totally loved this last episode since many people probably had noticed through the time I'm on these boards.

But... oh well.. here I'm doing it!
I can say that this episode was my favorite from the whole season 3 so far and one of my most favorites through all seasons!
The interactions between Arthur and Angela, the backgrounds of the family and the proof that Angela is actually the way I was thinking she was through all seasons (even she irritated me a bit with Bridges death because it didn't fit her much but I'll look over it now).

Being manipulated and used in such a horrible way by the man you love and look up to for so many years is more than a tragedy.

He used his wife like a puppet brainwashing her the whole time to get his ways without her interfering and even make her accept and agree on her Babys (Nathan) death. I mean how sick is THAT?

I laughed soooo hard when she said "I lied, it's not your mothers recipe" while Arthur looked suspicious on his dish. Priceless!!

the haitians presense there and his interaction with her showed that he already knew her and trusted her well enough to even help her get down her evil husband.

I love her character now even more and I can't wait to see her taking him down for good!

In my opinion it would be epic to see her taking him out "right through the head" in the presense of their sons with a line like "you won't hurt my children or anyone else anymore!" or something similar!

Word, Raekon:

It is also dawning on me not just the lies of the man she trusted and looked up (remind anyone of a scene in a police station where a mother tries to tell her son "take off your rose colored glasses your brother is just like your father and you need to put yourself first, cause he will do the same thing) but I also suspect that instant flood of 20 odd years (I don't beleive he's done this all their marriage) of bad memories can really emotionally scar you and I think it's huge on why she is the way she is, Angela.

Yay everyone loves Angela

Can't enter it.
It says that I need a password. :/

It's in the BTD. The password is 'shanti.' No punctuation.