Ok, so was anyone surprised as I was when Peter saved Claire by using his head? Sweet lord I nearly had a heart attack! He IS intelligent after all..


And did no one else find it weird, or has suggestions, as to how Usutu appeared to Matt? Maybe painting the future isn't his power? just the power of the dodgy paste stuff? Seems odd he would just turn up after losing his head?...

Peace

heh was just about to make a thread on what Peter did, like Usutu said to Hiro some of them rely too much on their powers and don't use their heads. Then again the person he did fool is even dumber than him and Knox knew something dodgy was up.

I was wondering if Peter was stupid enough to go up against them without powers until I saw the pipe or whatever it was. About time he used his brain.

I think Angela might have used Usutu's image to lure Matt to her. I think by taking Peter's abilities away, I think he's starting to think now instead of using the easy way (abilities) out.

He didn't let his powers get in his way..

At first I was excited, thinking somehow Peter got his powers back; but I'm glad he's thinking on feet.

Hopper,

That's possible, but I think it's more likely that Arthur appeared to Matt as Usutu to lure him into a trap. Angela warned him to leave her mind before Arthur could attack him. We see Arthur's shadow even though we see Daphne's image. Matt see's Daphne, even though it's really Arthur--who then viciously stabs him while still disguise. Arthur...agreed?

Creator

Why would Arthur lure matt into a trap. Matt was already their, he did not need to be lured.
I don’t think Arthur entered the dream until the first Daphne arrived.

He was in the building, but not near Angela. "Usutu" lured him to Angela. If he didn't, either he would never have found her, or it would have took a lot of time, and Arthur would have waited, maybe a long time, before Matt finds his wife. He just wanted things to be dealed with quick!

So, yeah, he didn't really needed to lure him to Angela. But it speeds up things: He's a busy man, you know? He don't have time to wait! lol

just think i figured it out and not as complicated as him being alive or not - it was parkmans dream and matt wanted him there. it would'nt make sense for angela to have him there because she never met him or could have connected him to matt.

this also goes for why daphne was in there - angela to our knowledge does not know her as alluded by daphne's reaction when matt said her full name.

I was wrong. Usutu showed up before Arthur knew Matt was at Primatech. I don’t think we have enough information to know how he was their.
I think that it was Arthur’s dream and Matt Brought the second (the real) Daphne in.

Except... not.

If that were the case, then why would Arthur need Daphne to tell him what Parkman was doing? Arthur looked surprised at the detail.

Oh. And I may be confused on this one, but didn't Arthur specifically tell Daphne not to let Parkman get involved with Primatech?

I think that Arthur travels [Astral Projection] and manipulates brains [ala Maury] as long as the "victim" is in a state of trance. I.E. when Angela was dreaming the future, that is when he came along and modded her mind to coma like state. Same as with Hiro, he was still in a trance when Arthur found him and manipulated the surroundings [Usutu being beheaded] and and tried to brain fry Hiro completely, but Ando saved him. Now Usutu seems to be beheaded, however I think that that is just a state that some are in. Now when Parkman goes and does his thing Arthur can now enter his brain state and start to fry Matt brain, but it was Daphne that may have messed up his plan, and Arthur relenquished control of the situation, and Matt was really the one to bring Angela back. Usutu is SITLL alive, but brain fried - not enough to not help Matt, but still incapacitated.

Usutu's dead. I took Matt "seeing" him as Matt's "intstincts" telling him where Angela was (spirit walk continued, anyone?).

I was so proud of Peter. He needs to strengthen that brain of his, it has atrophied after the long lack of use.

Yeah something like that. I just assumed that it was the spirit of Usutu guiding Matt on his journey. It would make perfect sense to me for someone as mystical as Usutu to come back as a spirit guide for one of his pupils. He's the new turtle

Couldn't have been Arthur though as he didn't know Matt was there until Daphne ran off to tell him and he couldn't interact with him until Matt entered Angela went into Angela's mind.

Looks like removing all those powers stuck inside Peter's brain cleared his head a little, good to see.

Hiro was fully awake

Exactly my thoughts. It seemed like every power he gained he exponentially lost brain cells. Maybe that's Arthur's real power: to smack some sense into people. It's like Usutu said, use your head instead of becoming too dependent on your power. I honestly clapped for Peter.

Usutu: he's now on the long spirit walk. Matt's psychic, so he's sensitive to Usutu's spirit. The new turtle, indeed.


Peter: yes, as Usutu taught Hiro - use your head not your power. But, what if Peter still has IA.

- he didn't pick it up in his usual unthinking, empathic way - he had to understand the concept
- we know that when Sylar was tested IA didn't show up
- and when Sylar was declawed by the virus IA stuck around
- is it possible that Arthur was wrong and missed a power when making his sweep?
- as extra circumstantial evidence Peter was demonstrating some intelligence at the same time that Gabriel was showing some empathy...

I'm not certain about this theory. The comparison with Gabriel might have been the only relevant factor - not showing powers but showing each Petrelli brother demonstrating normal attributes we're more used to seeing from the other.

Ed

Didn't daphne superspeed to Pinehearst to tell Arthur?

She did after Usutu showed them where Angela was.

Oh! When you said we didn't have enough information to know why he was there, I thought you meant Arthur and not Usutu! I get you now.