Peter seems to have some obvious issues with maintaining a long term relationship. Here are some examples:

1.) Simone- part of a love triangle, deceased (he was indirectly responsiable for her death imo.) She seemed to appreciate him and had a lot of faith in him. They were obviously very attracted to each other.

2.) Caitlin- goes missing in time, her brother is murdered by Elle. Um, he had amnesia? Seriously, that sums up the relationship lol

Of course all of this has been discussed and joked about on the boards, but there is another pattern that isn't as discussed: he seems to hook up with the same girls as his brothers.

1.) Niki in 5YG. I get the two lost souls attraction, but I wonder if it subconciously had to do with missing Nathan and going for the type of pretty blonde chick his brother would have went for (too much?)

2.) Elle. Yeah, they didn't really hook up but I think under different circumstances they probably would have slept together. I think its the lost soul appeal again.

3.) Heidi. First let me say I don't think anything was going on there lol I just got the sense in those episodes from early S1 that they really liked each other and that maybe Peter was a little jelous of their seemingly ideal mairrage (the way he looked at them dancing at his graduation party in 6MA.)

Pattern: With Caitlin he wants to be saved, with Elle he wants to be the saviour and with Niki a little bit of both (he kept trying to make her face her past, but he didn't want to go back to fighting with Hiro for fear of losing her.) This pattern is also another way to show how connected Peter is to his brothers, even Gabriel.

In the IABD timeline Peter doesn't seem to have any allies, nevermind romantic interests. I think the show is going to go in this direction for him in Fugitives. I just can't picture him in a relationship.

Personally, I think Simone was his soulmate (if you believe in that kind of thing) for all the reasons I explained above. Losing her near the end of S1 was a sign of how he was losing all chances of having a normal life. She was also his only real romance not connected to his brothers so she was more suited to his identity (gawd, I hope that made sense.)I also read that its a Campbell like device to put part of the hero's name in their anima's name and the names Simone and Peter both mean rock. In the Bible the apostle Peter was called Simon before he decided to follow christ, the leaving behind a normal life theme again. (It may be a stretch but I think the names ELLE and GabriEL fit this criteria as well. )

Yeah...so I just wanted to throw those ideas out there.

Maybe Peter subconsciously goes after the girls he knows he can't have? Some people are like that and it would certainly fit your theory of him never having a normal life.

Ah yes, Peter and his inferiority complex. Why is it that whenever I come on this board and type out long explanations some one comes in and posts what I meant in two sentences? lol

I guess I'm just trying to make it deeper then then the 'tragic comicbook hero who can't keep a girlfriend' idea, which it really is.

No, your post is great. Don't think for a second that it's not. I simply posted that for a question to make you think! I was agreeing with you! You make many points in your post that I hadn't thought about prior to reading it!

I really liked Simone too, and in retrospect I'm sad that Peter lost his connection to her. I don't like that he seems to have forgotten about her - yes, I know he turned into the bomb and had amnesia and his brother was shot and bla bla bla so he didn't really have time, but I think Simone was a powerful humanizing connection for a superhuman character. Superman has Lois Lane - Spider-Man has Mary-Jane - Peter needs a "normal" to ground him.

I think this is why they made Caitlin have no powers. But I kind of disagree, its hard enough being the girlfriend character it would be better if she had her own ability to tie her more into the plot/conflict. I think if she had one good offensive ability (like Elle's lightening) she could still ba a stabilizing force in the relationship lol.

Yeah, I have to confess, I had Elle pegged for our little Peter...I'm kind of disappointed that she was given to Sylar instead.

I agree and out of all of his girls they had the best chemistry, IMO.

Yeah, I really wanted them to get together as well. When Peter (as Jesse) was going nuts when Elle was being attacked I was like "aw..." But I think Elle and Gabriel were made for eachother.

The Elle/Peter interactions showed that Pete needs a quirky girl to make up for his lack of humor lol and someone to rub off some of his boyscout shine. Besides that Elle was an interesting character in her own right (unlike Caitlin and to a certain extent Simone) which made them a lot more interesting as a couple. All this needs to be considered for his next love interest to work imo.

Gawd, I'm such a girl. I can really analyze the cupcakes about these things.

Yeah, I agree with this analysis. Her death was just out of nowhere and was so symbolic of the turmoil that Peter's life was going to be. The only thing is that she was the daughter of Charles Deveaux who was also one of the Twelve so if she had lived, she might have been brought from out of the "normal" world into the Heroes world. I think the Simone/Peter pairing was actually the most natural so I kinda secretly wish she could be brought back.

Next to Simone/Peter, the Elle/Peter pairing had the most chemistry for me although I totally like Elle with Sylar/Gabriel better just because I think Elle is a better fit with Sylar (people tend to forget that Elle is every bit a killer that Sylar is/was). But that pairing got ruined because of Adam Monroe and Peter who basically tried to trick Elle into freeing him by using her immaturity against her.

But yeah, with Peter's track record and the sexual tension that occurs every time Peter and Claire share a scene, no wonder there's so many Peter/Claire shippers despite the incestuous undertones and the fact that the Heroes production crew would likely never allow it to happen. Poor guy, he's probably the hero that never gets the girl.

I too think Simone is the best love interest Peter has had on the show. Tied with Caitlin, of course. Unfortunately, all the season 1 ***** had to happen, which lead to her death. Also, OP, I seriously doubt Peter had an affection for Heidi. I bet he was just happy seeing his brother was doing well in life (having just found out that he was going to bring down Linderman).

Citizen,

You thought Peter and Caitlin were a good match? Really? Why? lol I'm not disrespecting your opinion I'm just curious. Personally, I thought Peter was only drawn to her because he had nowhere else to go and she was nice to him and didn't think he was freak, which he desperately needed. Besides that the actors had no chemistry.

Kainee,

I don't read or look at anything to do with Milo Ventimiglia or Hayden Panettiere just because it ruins any Peter and Claire scenes for me. It is really ironic that they have the best chemistry yet they're portraying uncle and niece. I agree about Elle/Gabriel being a better match. Its better to have two crazy people in a relationship than one crazy and non-crazy

LOL, I totally don't follow celebrity gossip but the first Peter and Claire scenes, I was like... whoa... sexual tension up the wazoo even though it was basically Peter telling Claire that things get better after high school. So when I learned the actors were dating in real life, my reaction was kinda "Oh, no wonder." But seriously, is there any way for them to turn that stuff off? Their chemistry is starting to get a bit creepy incestuous and the dialogue is not helping things...

"I want you to remain... "

"Remain what?"

"Innocent."

(BTW, not a complete quote as I'm doing this from memory)

Exactly. She was nice to him and she was a friend and more when he needed one. Was Caitlin ever a b***c in the eyes of the audience? I don't think so. Was it mutual, unlike Elle's affinity for Peter? Yeah, they were both into each other. And personally, I think they made a good couple. Until she got *cough*unreachable*cough*.

Hmmm... following the dating his brothers' exs theory, maybe he'll end up with Maya next.

Or when goth Future!Claire was, ahem, "torturing" him in IABD. Or when she was cleaning his wounds after he was TKed out of the Pinehearst building I was like "that is not standard niece/uncle behaviour!" lol

I meant for this thread to be a deep, psychological look at Peter's relationships, but I see that died a slow painful death. And I'm okay with that



But-but- she was so boring Seriously, I think in that condition Peter would have reached out to any half way attractive person sporting a YY chromosome.

I do think he liked Elle. At least he seemed to want to know more about her and felt some connection to her. (Its also a popular misconception that he only kissed her to get out of taking the pills but she seemed really surprised when he did and afterwards he told Adam "day five without the meds." I think he kissed her because he was going to leave her and because he hadn't gotten any for 4 months lol.)

But Elle/Peter didn't look like it was going to work. Elle was a sadist. She may be hot and all, but I wouldn't wanna hook up with someone like Elle. And yeah, what's boring to you isn't boring to everyone.

Fair enough.

Pretty much the reason why Elle/Sylar probably fit better.

Just weird how Peter is doomed to never get the girl and he's supposed to be the main character.

The more I think about it, the more I realize Peter is a hero in the Jesus/Neo mold so he probably won't have any steady relationship. Too busy saving the world.

I guess I have to take back my "dating-your-brother's -girlfriends" theory since Sylar and Peter aren't actually brothers. But it still kinda fits because they are connected. Its the doifferent sides of the same coin idea.

Actually, Elle may have been many things but she was not a sadist. Sadism is a sexual perversion in which gratification is obtained by the infliction of physical or mental pain on others.

The argument could be made that she suffered from Antisocial Personality Disorder. I seem to remember her saying the doctors called her a sociopath.

Same difference!

She got off to zapping Peter

I actually thought Peter and Caitlin had decent chemistry. I didn't like much of the Ireland storyline, but I was surprised at how well I liked them together. Their chemistry wasn't exactly the clothes-ripping, TAKE ME NOW! kind of steamy hotness, but I think the actors made up for it by bringing a kind of sweetness to the Peter/Caitlin connection. I found that I could easily imagine them getting married and having lots of babies and staying married for the next 50 years. Awww.

And I liked that Caitlin insisted on going along with Peter to Montreal (even though it led to her getting lost in the dystopian future) - that showed she had spunk and personality. I think it says something good about Peter that he seems to go for strong, self-directed women.

Actually, there's a world of difference between Sadism and Sociopathy. Read up on them. (Not going to go into the particulars here.)

And that one aspect of her personality, which Peter also seemed to enjoy (yes, he was playing her- but he didn't act like one who hated those shocks), is hardly enough to call her a sadist.

Peter directly called her a sadist, though, didn't he? But I suppose her Assignment Tracker clarifies that: "Elle also displays mild/moderate sociopathic tendencies; a trait that manifests itself in the joy she receives from delivering mild electric shocks to other captives within the Company."

lol you mean XX, girls are XX and guys are XY and YY doesn't exist (sorry I'm a geek, I know). I agree with you about Caitlin, though...she's kind of boring...

Anyway, I'm happy I found this thread! I think Peter...tends to fall for any girl he spends an extended period of time with. Sorry to oversimplify things, but it's true. I think this is connected to his empathy--he instinctively wants to reach out to them and understand them, and he's a romantic, so once he does that he falls for them. (Sylar also proved the empathy-romance connection in that scene with Elle where he takes her power with empathy).

I liked the Peter/Simone relationship initially because his hopeless devotion was so characteristic and sweet But then, of course, it became a love triangle, and I was so irritated at Simone throughout the whole thing. Gosh, I don't know, I'm just so torn, do I go for the heroin addict who lies to me and barks at me (I know he loved her, but still...) or the cutest, most understanding guy on the planet who's always there for me? Ugh, Simone! And she seemed to lean towards Isaac (like on the Deveaux rooftop), too! Seriously, that's got to be the worst choice anyone has ever made romantically since Jo picked the old German professor over Laurie in Little Women.

Elle's just too much for him...she thought of him as a boy toy which means she didn't really respect him, and they couldn't have an equal relationship. Besides, I don't think he can really understand her sociopathy and delight in other's pain despite his empathy. She's so flawed and he's so good, I think Sylar and Elle are a better combo because they can understand each other better. Also, I doubt Elle would be able to love him unconditionally (too strong a sense of self-preservation) and we all know that's his trademark so that wouldn't work.


To be completely honest with you, I'm secretly rooting for a Peter/Claire relationship. If they turned out to be unrelated obviously. It could happen, this is Heroes and relations can change. For example, Doyle could have raped Meredith (there were sort of hints of that with the whole "it's like I told you all night long, Eric...I never loved you"), possibly making him Claire's father not Nathan. Anyway, the first episode I saw of Heroes was near the end of the first season (watching over my brother's shoulders, I so owe them for introducing me), and the second I saw Claire and Peter in the car together I just assumed they were a couple. Sort of weird to find out they were niece/uncle! They have a ridonculous amount of chemistry. But more than that, their relationship is very sweet---they're always watching out for each other, that kind of thing. Claire is becoming fairly mature for her age and Peter's always been young and innocent for his, so the age gap is not as bad as it seems IMO.

But yes, I'm aware that it won't happen (I think Tim Kring said so in an interview, although he was considering a "dream sequence"), so no need to post as such. I have to say though, what have the writers been doing with them in the third season?? They're totally setting them up! It's been sort of weird actually. First there's him saving her from a train (I remember seeing that scene right after the random Maya/Mohinder hookup and thinking: wow, this scene has more chemistry than the one I just watched, and they're standing far apart and fully clothed...how is that even possible?), then her "torturing" him...I so agree with that...and her cleaning his wounds, him shirtless? Um, I wouldn't do that kind of thing with my uncle, that's all I'm saying. What was up with that? And can I just say, so much of their dialogue had double meanings going on. Kainee already mentioned the "innocent" line but remember this:

Peter: But you keep turning into this woman who...
Claire: Who what? (Pause...the elephant in the room snorts...) Who kills you?

Uh huh. Good cover there, writers. I wonder if Hayden and Milo have trouble getting through those scenes with a straight face.

lol you mean XX, girls are XX and guys are XY and YY doesn't exist (sorry I'm a geek, I know).

About that...lol. I found out I did that wrong a few days later from my lovely roommate (who happens to be a Bio major):

Me: Forget him. He goes after anything carrying a YY chromosome.
Roomie (face running with mascara): YY? Don't you mean XX, you ****tard!

True story.

I think this is connected to his empathy--he instinctively wants to reach out to them and understand them, and he's a romantic, so once he does that he falls for them. (Sylar also proved the empathy-romance connection in that scene with Elle where he takes her power with empathy).

I'd never thought of that! But it does fit Peter's whole subconciously-loving-everyone thing.

Seriously, that's got to be the worst choice anyone has ever made romantically since Jo picked the old German professor over Laurie in Little Women.



Elle's just too much for him...she thought of him as a boy toy which means she didn't really respect him, and they couldn't have an equal relationship. Besides, I don't think he can really understand her sociopathy and delight in other's pain despite his empathy. She's so flawed and he's so good, I think Sylar and Elle are a better combo because they can understand each other better. Also, I doubt Elle would be able to love him unconditionally (too strong a sense of self-preservation) and we all know that's his trademark so that wouldn't work.

I never thought they would be a good couple or were soulmates just that they were very, um...They made an interesting combination. I think Elle showed some qualities that would be good in a girlfriend for Peter: a sense of humor, an offensive power that she isn't afraid to use and rubbs off some of his boy scout shine.


To be completely honest with you, I'm secretly rooting for a Peter/Claire relationship. If they turned out to be unrelated obviously. It could happen, this is Heroes and relations can change. For example, Doyle could have raped Meredith (there were sort of hints of that with the whole "it's like I told you all night long, Eric...I never loved you"), possibly making him Claire's father not Nathan. Anyway, the first episode I saw of Heroes was near the end of the first season (watching over my brother's shoulders, I so owe them for introducing me), and the second I saw Claire and Peter in the car together I just assumed they were a couple. Sort of weird to find out they were niece/uncle! They have a ridonculous amount of chemistry. But more than that, their relationship is very sweet---they're always watching out for each other, that kind of thing. Claire is becoming fairly mature for her age and Peter's always been young and innocent for his, so the age gap is not as bad as it seems IMO.

I don't blame you. The age thing never bothered me either, especially if the show fast forward a year, instead of a few months so that by the time they developed a relationship Claire would be legal. Or Peter sees the future where he and Claire are together, which shapes how he treats her in the present and could lead to a lot of awkward humor and confront the jail-bait issue

Sometimes I think it would have been better if Claude was revealed to be Claire's father in S1 (he was my second choice after Nathan who was the obvious choice- c'mon he was stationed in Texas at the time and has a thing for blondes!) But I try not to think about it because its never going to happen.

(I remember seeing that scene right after the random Maya/Mohinder hookup and thinking: wow, this scene has more chemistry than the one I just watched, and they're standing far apart and fully clothed...how is that even possible?),

I know, I know. Its so ironic.

About that...lol. I found out I did that wrong a few days later from my lovely roommate (who happens to be a Bio major):

Me: Forget him. He goes after anything carrying a YY chromosome.
Roomie (face running with mascara): YY? Don't you mean XX, you ****tard!

True story.

Well, did making fun of you cheer her up? That's how my friends and I always do it.

I think Elle showed some qualities that would be good in a girlfriend for Peter: a sense of humor, an offensive power that she isn't afraid to use and rubbs off some of his boy scout shine.

Yes, I think a sense of humor in a girlfriend would be very good for Peter. I think Peter and Claire are somewhat alike--sweet and with a tendency to be overdramatic. I always thought Zach was a great match for Claire with his weirdness, down-to-earth ways, and humor. (Too bad he was gay...that always happens... ) So, a girl with spunk, who's funny, and who doesn't take the whole saving-the-world thing as seriously as he does would be good for him. I'm not sure I totally agree with you about the offensive power though. I can see how it might make them a little more equal, but to be honest, Peter is basically "The One", even Milo said so in an interview, so no matter how cool her power is, she's not going to be as powerful as him (after all he's got it too and a million other things.) I guess this is why they've given him girlfriends w/o powers entirely. But in my opinion, the coolest thing would be a girlfriend who has a power that he can't absorb.

Ohhhhhhhhh I just thought of a really cool idea. You know how the writers are always trying to de-power Peter and they've done everything from exploding, amnesia, the hunger, and the hug of dooom? It's getting a little annoying, but if they really want to do it...WHAT IF PETER HAD A GIRLFRIEND WITH THE Haitian'S POWER?? Only not controllable, let's say (while the Haitian can choose not to block someone, she can't help it). As in, he couldn't use his powers when he was with her! So he basically has to choose btw his powers and being with her and of course he's Peter so he picks the latter. So most of the time he's not powerful, but then if she gets in trouble (kidnapped or something) and she's away from him, he can move heaven and earth to get her back!

I'm writing the writers. I want a girlfriend for Peter who basically has Zach's personality and the Haitian's power. Also, could she not be a freaking blonde?? Well, Peter hasn't had any blonde girlfriends (wait, no, Niki in the future) but you know what I mean, Nathan and Matt and Claude certainly seem to have that preference. I think the redhead is for Hiro--quirky like him, you know (awwwww, I miss Charlie)---so she should be brunette. Maybe she should be black, actually. The Haitian's long-lost sister (kidding lol)

Or Peter sees the future where he and Claire are together, which shapes how he treats her in the present and could lead to a lot of awkward humor and confront the jail-bait issue

Awwww..my imagination is racing a million miles a minute...I imagine that Peter sees this future and he doesn't want it to happen (because he thinks he's too old for her, or he wants her to stay innocent, or something) so he avoids her, and she's hurt but then she realizes that she loves him and goes to find him. Ack, I'm such a cheesy romantic.

But come on, I think Claire and Peter need to end up for another very important reason: they're both regenerators!! Look, if nothing weird happens, they're both gonna live forever. Think about Adam. So their options are either to fall in love over and over again with people who will die and then mourn them forever (and I just think neither of them could quite handle that, they care too deeply, every girlfriend death takes something out of Peter and I don't want him to end up all bitter) or to find someone who is also a regenerator. This means Claire should either be with Sylar or with Peter. you pick lol!

Well, did making fun of you cheer her up? That's how my friends and I always do it.

She laughed hysterically. For a good ten minutes. Until I was like "ok, I'm glad you're feeling better but it wasn't THAT funny..."

So, a girl with spunk, who's funny, and who doesn't take the whole saving-the-world thing as seriously as he does would be good for him. I'm not sure I totally agree with you about the offensive power though. I can see how it might make them a little more equal, but to be honest, Peter is basically "The One", even Milo said so in an interview, so no matter how cool her power is, she's not going to be as powerful as him (after all he's got it too and a million other things.) I guess this is why they've given him girlfriends w/o powers entirely...

I think she needs to have a power because otherwise she's doomed to just be the girlfriend and I find that boring. The writers abandoned the characters of Simone and Caitlin because they realized there wasn't much they could do with them and they didn't fit into the grand scheme of things. If she has a power she's more tied into the plot. I want it to be an offensive power because it would reflect, like you said, a more spunky personality.

She needs to be the assertive one because I see Peter as the caring, emotional one. He isn't an "Alpha Male." as Angela likes to say. Now that he and Nathan are estranged he needs to find his other half, but not in a platonic relationship.

I don't know if you have ever seen *Wall-E, but when Wall-E first sees Eve she is gracefully flying around like an Angel, but when she spots him spying on her she blows the rock he is hiding behind up like it was nothing (the contrast is actually pretty funny.) The look on Wall-E's face can only be translated as "this b***h is crazy.." lol Then there is a part near the end where *Wall-E has fallen into a kind of trance because of his programming and Eve is trying to be all sweet and patient: "Wall-E, Wall-E..." but then loses her temper "Wall-E!" Also, it takes Eve a while to get through her head that Wall-E truly cares about her.

I think something like that would work for Peter


Also, could she not be a freaking blonde? Well, Peter hasn't had any blonde girlfriends (wait, no, Niki in the future) but you know what I mean, Nathan and Matt and Claude certainly seem to have that preference. I think the redhead is for Hiro--quirky like him, you know (awwwww, I miss Charlie)---so she should be brunette. Maybe she should be black, actually. The Haitian's long-lost sister (kidding lol)

Oh god, if she was black and had the same power as the Haitian that would be too much of a coincidence for people to understand. There would always be "theories" they were related lol. It would be awesome if she had the Haitian's ability but I kind of like that the Haitian is rare and Angela's go-to guy (I think Anna from the GN has the same ability as the Haitian, but she is the same age as Claire and blonde so...no, let's not go there.)

I think they should just do blind casting, but with a footnote saying 'if you're blonde fine, but you'll have to dye your hair once you're on the show because we have enough blondes.' Seriously, is the blonde gene and the Special gene the same thing?

Awwww..my imagination is racing a million miles a minute...

Somebody write a fanfic and as long as its not too fluffy I'll read it!

I disagree. If you're going to hook Peter up with someone, powers should be the last thing you consider with it. (Personally, I'd like him to last a season without a hookup, but...)

Simone was dropped because, once she had served to connect Peter and Isaac and to provide a small amount of friction, she had served her purpose. Once a character has served their purpose, they need to be eliminated. (Not always death, but written out.)
Their was nothing else Simone could have done for the story. The hookup between her and Peter was never going to last, and everybody watching knew it.

Caitlin was written out because they abandoned the Ireland storyline completely. There was supposed to be a scene, possibly an episode, in the 2nd half of S2 where he tried to rescue her, but that was all that was intended. Caitlin was abandoned because, frankly, she was even more useless to the story than Simone.

She laughed hysterically. For a good ten minutes. Until I was like "ok, I'm glad you're feeling better but it wasn't THAT funny..."

Well, people on the brink of emotional collapse are always prone to turning humor into hysteria But it helps anyway.

I think she needs to have a power because otherwise she's doomed to just be the girlfriend and I find that boring. The writers abandoned the characters of Simone and Caitlin because they realized there wasn't much they could do with them and they didn't fit into the grand scheme of things. If she has a power she's more tied into the plot. I want it to be an offensive power because it would reflect, like you said, a more spunky personality.

She needs to be the assertive one because I see Peter as the caring, emotional one. He isn't an "Alpha Male." as Angela likes to say. Now that he and Nathan are estranged he needs to find his other half, but not in a platonic relationship.

She could also have a non-special power. Like Simone had all those New York connections (she got Hiro in to Linderman after all), or like HRG who isn't special but manages to kick Sylar's a** all the time anyway. I don't know...the only reason I want her to have the Haitian's ability is because the writers might feel the need to depower Peter again and I'm tired of all the problems he runs into, so this would be a cool way to keep him from being a god. Not that I mind... But now that I think about the personality/power link, I guess that wouldn't work. The Haitian's cool, but he's pretty weird. Sort of mystical, mysterious, and detached. Not exactly the right personality match for Peter. Although, I'm not sure I would want someone like Nathan for Peter either. Because Nathan's personality is such that a lot of the time he doesn't respect Peter, and also doesn't listen to him--they work as brothers but I wouldn't want his girlfriend to be like that!

I've been watching some of the episode commentary and it's so funny because they're always making fun of Adrian and Milo for their chemistry...like Senhil will go, "that kiss was very tender"..they're also always making fun of each other for their clothes (like that hilarious flowered shirt Mo used to wear, I liked it but they gave him so much crap about it, lol)

Anyway, so back to Peter. I want someone spiritied, funny, and practical. And I suppose assertive, but not too controlling. By the way, assuming Peter is a Pisces, what sign works with that? Aries, yeah?


I don't know if you have ever seen *Wall-E, but when Wall-E first sees Eve she is gracefully flying around like an Angel, but when she spots him spying on her she blows the rock he is hiding behind up like it was nothing (the contrast is actually pretty funny.) The look on Wall-E's face can only be translated as "this b***h is crazy.." lol Then there is a part near the end where *Wall-E has fallen into a kind of trance because of his programming and Eve is trying to be all sweet and patient: "Wall-E, Wall-E..." but then loses her temper "Wall-E!" Also, it takes Eve a while to get through her head that Wall-E truly cares about her.

I think something like that would work for Peter

Ha ha ha ha ha!! You're so right!! Yes, I saw Wall-E. Oh, that's so funny. That would work. I love that part when she's trying to be sweet but she just can't, lol. Peter's a bit like Wall-E, so that might work. Although the power thing would be all switched up.


Seriously, is the blonde gene and the Special gene the same thing?
Um, yes. Sexual selection and natural selection are working together, apparently. (No, actually this makes sense. Like they're almost all really good-looking, lol, and even those that aren't--like Bob---have attractive children.)




Well, he lasted a volume. As did Claire. So that was good restraint on the writers' parts, although having both unattached didn't help the Peter/Claire chemistry...Anyway, I think he shouldn't get a girlfriend until he saves Caitlin already (not in the show obviously, but I want a GN). I don't want her back, but come on, it's a little ridiculous that she's just left stranded in a weird future. And I know it was because of the writer's strike, but like I said they could still write a GN. And then I would forgive Peter for moving on.

Yeah I think they should address Caitlin somewhere somehow... it's not like Peter's personality to just forget about someone, let alone a girlfriend, lost somewhere in time without trying to help...

But then it would be difficult now... given that the writers purposefully eliminated all the time travelling powers on the show... (unless Peter ever become friendly enough with Hiro, Ando and Daphne to tell them about the story, and then Hiro with his personality would just make them try it...)

Except Peter lives very much in the moment. And there has been quite a bit happening in the 2-3 weeks since he woke up in Ireland.

Although, I'm not sure I would want someone like Nathan for Peter either. Because Nathan's personality is such that a lot of the time he doesn't respect Peter, and also doesn't listen to him--they work as brothers but I wouldn't want his girlfriend to be like that!

I should clarify that by other half, I meant Peter is going to need someone who is shrewd and pragmatic to balance out his idealism and gentelness. Of course Peter needs to develope some of these qualities in himself - and vice versa - I think this transference happens more in romantic relationships (although it did happen to a certain extent with Peter and Nathan, but that didn't end well.) It would show Peter's growth by this continuing in a healthy, adult relationship and not in the tug-of-war with his older brother.

Also, by assertive I didn't mean bossy or overpowering. Maybe I should have used the word confident.

By the way, assuming Peter is a Pisces, what sign works with that? Aries, yeah?

An Aries Sun would fit the personality we're describing. But going into it a little deeper she would need more water in her chart to connect with Peter (Maybe a Pisces Moon conjunct his Sun? Or Cancer Rising to give her a soft, innocent appearence.)

Ha ha ha ha ha! You're so right! Yes, I saw Wall-E. Oh, that's so funny. That would work. I love that part when she's trying to be sweet but she just can't, lol. Peter's a bit like Wall-E, so that might work. Although the power thing would be all switched up.

"Trying to be sweet but she just can't" - you summed it up . Naturally, Peter is going to be more powerful in any relationship, but she should be able to defend herself.


I don't want her back, but come on, it's a little ridiculous that she's just left stranded in a weird future. And I know it was because of the writer's strike, but like I said they could still write a GN. And then I would forgive Peter for moving on.

I know its lazy writing, I just had such apathy towards Caitlin it makes it sort of hard for me to care. I agree there should have been a GN (that would seem like the obvious thing to do!) but since Volume three happened directly after Volume two I don't see where they can chronologically fit it in.

I agree with all your reasons for why both characters were dropped. I just think the fact that they did not have abilities caused those problems. They did not fit into the bigger picture. For example, the Fugitives storyline- what exactly would a powerless girlfriend do in that situation besides sit home and worry and if she did have relevance would that carry over to the next storyline? Not likely.

I think Peter's love interest having an ability would tie her more into whatever plot was going on, make her more proactive in that plot and make sure her character is fully rounded. It would be a practical decision from a storytelling point of view.

I also don't think Peter is going to have a love interest next volume either (or even the volume after) and I can see why that would be good for the story. This is all in the name of fun speculation. And I'm a hopeless romantic



Yeah, like he remembered who he was for starters.

Back in the second season, I remember thinking that Peter and Maya could make an interesting couple, especially if Peter could somehow obtain Alejandro's power. Peter could therefore stop her black tears, and although that would give him some power/control over Maya, I don't see him turning into a jerky control freak about it. His guilt over the bomb and Maya's guilt over the people she killed could be an interesting bond.

Maya began S2 as a fairly self-directed character (running all the way to New York to cure herself - you gotta respect that), and she was darn cute and friendly in the breakfast scene in "Powerless." If only the writers had capitalized on those aspects of Maya's personality, I think she could have really put some starch in Peter's sails.

All theoretical, alas..

If Maya was more like the character you described than I would understand, but since she wasn't I spent S2 in the constant fear that they would meet and Peter would absorb her tears of death.