So if the eclipse basically acts as a catalyst to powers originally (season 1) and takes them away the second time it shows up (season 3) What does it mean that Peter's powers were already missing? Isn't it possible his powers are back now? Maybe?

Yea, I think he may get his powers back! Like they manifest again.

Well all his powers are gone (stolen) so he can't get them back..
if nathan got his powers in the first sighting and lost it in the second one.. he might get it after its over.. but I don't think peter will get it back because it was stolen

it's possible they -may- be back, but we wouldn't find that out until the next episode. i think it's more likely that they aren't.

Technically Nathan's powers manifested 6 months before the eclipse (during the car accident) but I'm assuming that's just a script over site and will be ignored for the present.

I guess that could be, but I have to ask, though, what is the rationale behind that? Heroes is not a show like Supernatural or Smallville, where you can attribute every all extraordinary phenomena to aliens or demons, so I expect some good, plausible explanation for the effects of the eclipse.

Rationale is a good question, also bring up the question of why there had to be a division early in the season between synthetic and natural powers, should there have been a different effect from the eclipse? rationally speaking?

Not really as both sets of powers are created by chemicals entering the adrenal glands.

I guess it depends on what the formula does exactly. Is it responsible for the powers themselves or is it just a trigger that unlocks the person's dormant potential?

Well, we know Mohinder tried to look for one! Funny thing, we'll probably get some sci-fi mojo that makes no sense in real science, but we'll have to accept it in the show!

However, it's not 100% true that is is science-based. Yep, MOST of it is, but there is often some religious comment and, more importantly, Usutu's power seemed more ''shamanic'' than ''sci-fic''. Now I'm not saying that the Eclipse is magical, far from it actually, but I'm just saying that you should be prepared for the explanation to not make much sense in a scientifical point of view!

Maybe we won't get an answer this Volume, you know? I predict the Volume 5 will be called Eclipse and there will be an Eclipse that will have an even stronger effect on the Heroes (maybe turning temporally EVERY human into super-powered human), and that will last for a long time for some reason, and the goal will be to understand why the Eclipse has such an effect and how to solve it!

my guess is that peter's power has return. but only his base power. so he has to start over. with that said, with them in haiti peter doesn't have anyone to asorb any powers from except maybe his brother's but not if the eclipse's effect on them happened at the same time...which is likely.

If Peter does get them back, no one better cross Maya on that flight home.

the thing is that if peter does end up getting his powers back it's probably only going to be his base power to absorb the powers of others and sense nobody else has powers to absorb its not going to matter

All humans are capable of of exhibiting powers, but only a handfull have the Genetic trait that allows them to produce the adrenal chemical which activates said powers. in theory each human posesses every power in heroes, but they only possess 1 genetic trait that produces a specific chemical that allows your body to harness a specific ability. Peter/Gabriel have mosaic DNA which allows them to copy that specific genetic marker to allow them to produce the need chemical for which ever power they aquire. (which would be why peter overloaded, imagine being super jacked on adrenaline)

FOR example look at the Sander Clones

3 exact normal human clones with normal DNA no Hero trait gene and thus no Adrenal Chemical for any powers. when the Synth formula is applied to bypass not having a Hero Trait Gene, the formula just allows the adrenal gland to produce a random Hero trait chemical, which produced varied results.

NIkii = Strength
Tracey = Ice
Barbera = ??

According to a recent Behind the Eclipse, Sam and Frack (Seth Green & Breckin Meyer) will have a theory next week about how the moon might affect specials' physiology. If they turn out to be right, then we'll have our scientific explanation.



It wasn't an oversight; in the hospital after the accident, as the doctor is telling Nathan about Heidi's condition, the reflection of an eclipse can be seen in one of the hospital windows. The writers seemed to confirm in an old Behind the Eclipse from during season 1 that this was not just a coincidence of lighting. So Peter's right in saying there was an eclipse that day. Nathan's abilities manifested hours before that eclipse, six months before the eclipse from the pilot.

BTE said that the comic store fan-boys will give us insight into the eclipse and the effect it has on the tides and gravitational pulls and whatnot..I think coupled with Mohinder's assumptions about the eclipse, we'll have our answer..

Also, didn't Beeman say that Peter would get his powers back, but it would not be EASY? I'm thinking its way too easy for him to get his absorption back just from the eclipse..I think he's going to have to go thru something a little more difficult..more trying.

I don't think you should be expecting a scientific explanation of how an ecplipse can effect peoples powers..after all how on earth can something secreted from your ardenal glands allow you to fly, let alone at super-sonic speeds. crazy. And even if you could you would eat like a mother$!@"£% cos i'm pretty sure you would require alot of energy!!

acutally you can expect a scientific explaination on how an eclipse can affect the abilities, its called biological instinct. for some reason in heroesverse specials exhibit an instinctual reation to the eclipses. While the eclipse does nothing (no cosmic rays), the biologicl governor in our bodies react instinctual, such as its time to MATE, or in this case, its time to TURN OFF the adrenal chemical needed for powers.

think of Bears, they habernate naturally, a biological alarm goes off and then they sleep regardless of how they feel, the body shuts down.

When humans are born, how do they know they can walk or talk, its because biologically your body knows via instinct.

For heroes, their bodies know that when specific eclipse happens that either the adrenal glands mass produce the chemicals needed for powers or restricts the chemical needed.

I hope i didn't confuse anyone

I like that thoery, it keeps the powers on a more biological/evolutionary level as they have been so far instead of some cosmic ray origin like the Fantastic Four.

thanks, i have actually been throuroughly refining my theories of abilities, evolution, and the Petrellis

Yes, I can agree with something like that too. After all, an eclipse is just a shadow being cast.

THATS A GREAT EXPLANATION/THEORY.

Why would Peter's ability be back? The eclipse took the abilities away from everyone, so the last thing people should speculate is that Peter got them back.

:/

i dont think they are saying he got them back as of the end of part one i believe they are saying that his original power of mimicry will reassert itself once the eclipse is over.

lolz wasn't it painfully obvious that Peter was making use of the IA he absorbed (or unlocked) from F_Gabriel? and remember when sylar had his abilities neutralized while he was captured by the company? his IA still worked and it allowed him to escape. i mean Peter said WAY too many smart things in this episode for it to go unnoticed.

so actually this is a bit confusing since Sylar seems to have lost all of his powers, including IA as well. wtf... what's going on?!

I don't really think that Pete's been using IA, it may be just my wish for him to be really quite intelligent, I don't know
But: Sylar's abilities were just "dimmed" in the Primatech's cell, similarly Daphne's when she was close to Haitian - her legs didn't failed her, or maybe it was just a matter of time. The thing is, that the eclipse totally nullified all of the powers, including all the side effects.

I think the effects of the eclipse are tied to the origin of powers.

The eclipse is more than a mere symbol - it's an interplanetary clock! Someone in the distant past was trying to affect the distant future, eclipses form a predictable and globally synchronised timetable.

Powers are genetic, and therefore sensitivity to the eclipse is genetic too. Either because a genetic engineer has created the unique hero genetic marker, or someone with an appropriate power has changed the genes of our Heroes ancestors. Either way a connection was made between powers and the eclipse.

Ed

I think the more appropriate analogy is to the hibernation. Walking and talking in humans is not instinct at all. It is purely a learned thing.

We are quite different to a lot of animals of the world in that the vast majority of your behaviors that make us "human" are learned. We are heavily dependent on others for our individual survival. Initially at least.

On another point

I'm assuming that we aren't saying that it is actually adrenaline that causes the activation of the powers. Rather the stimulation of a new chemical not present in normal human beings because when there was discussion about the eclipse stopping the adrenal glands from working a lot of people are going to be in serious trouble when they have no access to adrenaline.

Even if Peter does have his powers back now, which he may well have, he could've started from scratch, and have none of his other abilities, just his mimicry. If he only has his mimicry then there's nothing around to mimic at the moment. This will also solve that whole 'hunger' issue.

Thanks for bringing up that there was an eclipse in 6 Months Ago, I hadn't ever noticed that! As for this one bringing Peter's powers back, I can see it happening, but I just hope they learned their lesson with him and put some limitations on him and keep them this time!

I wonder if the eclipse just cuts everything but the earliest primal link to the powers. What I mean is you could still activate your power but you'd need one &#¤/! of adrenaline rush to do so. E.g. if Nathan wanted to fly to Hawaii for the weekend it wouldn't work but throw him off a cliff and he'd be flying like never before for about a minute.

Probably not. But it'd be cool.

Definitely not.

Otherwise, Claire would be healing.

Good point.

I'm probably alone on this but I was thinking it'd be neat if it turned out Arthur stole everything from Peter except Power theft. This would mean we got our Peter with more than one power back but he wouldn't get them for free anymore, he'd have to make a tough decision every time and he has to get in close to do it. Then the question lingering in our minds would be when is he gonna steal EM?

'Course they wouldn't do that because they will probably want the giving and taking away powers gone at the same time. Having one of the good guys able to take away powers would just be too handy. "Hey Nate, we got a guy who can turn matter into antimatter in Level 5. You got Pete's cell phone number on you?"