Forgive me if this is posted somewhere else but does anyone else think that they're setting things up so that the transfusion of Claire's blood into HRG gave him a part of the catalyst? And that maybe he get's killed when they take it back and this is why Claire had everything "taken" from her in the future and that Sylar did it and that's why his son is named Noah, out of remorse?

I also wonder if maybe Elle is Meredith's "real" child, and that they were changed so that they could hide the fact that Adam Monroe had a direct descendant? Because they created beings with powers before so there had to be another catalyst, and it sure seems like it would've been Adam.

If Adam's blood is they key, then wouldn't Nathan also be a possible catalyst? I'm just wondering...

Hmmm...where to start...

I'll only answer the one part of this that I find the least wrong.

Claire is 16 or 17

Elle is 24

They weren't swapped out.

The catalyst has nothing to do with Claire's blood. It was something different- and it was something Sylar noticed when examining her brain.

here's another thought that i've been unable to find an answer for - since noah was brought back to life with claire's blood (it's been in his system since the transfusion, i believe), does that mean he can heal like her now or was that just a temporary thing?

Temporary. They already dealt with it with Noah and Adam's blood. (The fact that his fist didn't heal meant the blood only worked temporarily.)

ah right, i forgot about that.

I'm tired of seeing all these catalyst threads. We don't have much info. on it except that it's the third part of the formula and that it is Claire, so just why are people speculating and saying that "L IS DA CATALLIST", or that "NATEN AND NOAH CAN HEEL NAO"?

In biology, I believe (its been a while since I studied Biology!), I was under the impression that blood cells are in effect replaced every 24 days by the bone marrow. So he could have been invulnerable for 24 days maybe.

And the show is ocnfusing about the catalyst. Mohinder says it has to be a person and cannot be made synthetically. That would imply Claire was born with it. However, Kaito *hid* this part of the formula, suggesting he injected it into Claire, and it was the only *copy*. Furthermore, how could they have given the triplets and Nathan abilities, as I am assuming Claire was born after this event.

Confusing, no?

Perosnally I think Mohinder is wrong, it can be created synthetically, but for plot reasons they want Claire to be the only one that has it, and they lack the knowledge to recreate it.

Not at all.

In the most recent Behind The Eclipse interview, we are told that since Claire is so young and the formula isn't, that there was a catalyst to make it work before Claire was around.

My guess is that Kaito (and possibly Victoria) took whatever was so catalyst-y about this last person and injected it into baby Claire.

Then the fact still remains as to how they found this catalyst in the first place without creating it synthetically for thier needs. It just *happened* to be in someone we already knew? Adam maybe?. I guess heroes os one for giant coincidences

Exactly! Not to mention they did so decades before (remember Kaito said his father had the formula) the genome project Chandra used was even begun...! Huh??

For the love of God, it's not that hard.

The Catalyst was the third part of an artificial formula designed to grant powers.

When they decided, not quite 20 years ago, to hide the formula, it was split into 2 obvious parts.

Unknown to the others, Kaito actually had it split in 3 parts. 2 were written- the formula we saw.

The third part was not written down. It was hidden in a living body.

They told us that Kaito hid it in someone and then they told us that the someone was Claire. The show never even hinted at it being something she was born with.

This is proof that there will always be stupid people.

I don't understand how they had the ability to puzzle out a formula so long before modern technology. I also don't understand what the catalyst is or how they could place it in a human being. I mean, something that continually renews itself in Claire's bloodstream? Something injected in her brain that Sylar could notice but that her body wouldn't reject? We know they injected Nathan and the triplets, all of whom are considerably older than Claire, so they had the three parts in order to give to them as per Arthur's wishes, but Arthur didn't know there were three parts? I don't think asking questions like that means I'm stupid.

This catalyst business is giving me a headache. People are really overthinking this one. I know it's the Heroes way, but I honestly don't think that there is more to this than has been told to us. Also, for those of you who are like "Ohmigah! How can they have mapped all this out without modern technology?" We aren't really dealing with average people here. lol You are dealing with the company, and specials! Look at people like Charlie for instance. VERY intelligent people were dealing with this stuff. There could have been enhanced intellect and even if there wasn't, the company had Bob making them a gold mine to fund their technology department. None of us know what kind of technology they really had at their disposal. I know there have been plotholes in the past...it will continue to be...but I think if everyone quit going out of their way to find them...they might enjoy the show a little bit more...

But Mohinder clearly states it CANNOT be made. He also states it would be in a human host. Why would it be in a human host? How would he know it was in a human host only, and cannot be found/made somewhere/how else. And if he has the brains to make 2 parts of the forumla, he surely has the intelligence to create the third. Especially knowing 2 of the 3 variables of the equation. And I understand Claire was not born with it, but surely if it CANNOT be made, it must have started in someone. It only makes sense on a basic level, as a plot device so Arthur knows he has to go after Claire. If you actually think about it, the information contradicts itself.



This is proof that there will always be arrogant people.

We aren't stupid for not understanding it. We are smart and that is why we can can see that this is a plothole. There is too much that doesn't fit together. Just because we aren't prepared to ignore it and let it slide by does not make us stupid. Nor does it mean we do not enjoy the series. If it were not for audiences pointing out plotholes and discrepancies, there would be an awful lot more.

Now please get your horse out of here.

As jryan said, people are overthinking cupcakes too much. All the threads regarding the catalyst, each one including a theory stupider than the previous one. We don't have that much information on it, so why the hell are people saying stupid things like the catalyst being in someone else or in Meredith, etc? And saying its a plothole is going too far at the moment. Just wait for it all to be revealed.

OK I agree that the catalyst is not in anyone else but Claire. Fair enough I guess there really are always stupid people if they are going around saying that...



I was refering to Mohinders comments rather than it being someone different, sorry if I took your comment as one directed at me personally!

p.s "Stupider" isn't a word

It wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the OP. And check out this thread for some good examples of catalyst stupidity.

p.s.
http://www.bartleby.com/61/76/S0827600.html

SYLLABICATION: stu•pid
ADJECTIVE: Inflected forms: stu•pid•er, stu•pid•est

Lol,

Touche!