what was the whole point if it was just gonna go away and everyone gets their powers back? i mean... o.O?

To teach them to appreciate those powers?

There was no point, Kenshin. No point. At. All.

Wow, Dmun, you didn't saw the episode at all, right? Arthur answer this directly to Mohinder near the end, when he looks at Flint! To show the characters how they really are! Daphne, Sylar, Elle, Mohinder, Arthur, even Noah! They all revealed a different side of themself today!

The point was that they were all getting too dependent on their powers. I think we all assumed that they'd get their powers back after the eclipse was over. I saw that coming since last week.

There was no point in killing Claire and Sylar, we all knew they'd come back.

lol oh i see XD i posted that before arthur spoke up.. anyways i'm not good with analyzing things and unerstanding quickly haha XD

to show off how bad A** noah is

The point was to show how helpless the heroes are without their powers. I didn't think it needed two episodes though.

I think something significant happened to the catalyst portion of the code/formula when Claire died this time.

HMM.

yeah notice Noah's reaction when he Claire said she died

That would be an interesting plot twist..

ah well peter did get a real good power and yeah noahs reaction stuck out to me too. and peter kicked a:: without his powers. woot woot

we see the perspective of all the heroes who take their powers for granted

a good example was with claire and how she never wanted the ability and to be normal, but then wanting to have the abiltiy again

He reacted like that because he knew Sylar was still alive if Claire had come back to life.

Yeah, they got their powers back...but not without having been changed by having lost them.

Stripping the powers was a full-on character exposition. They came away reminded of their true desires, hurts, ambitions, etc.

Too bad Nathan is going all God complex. <sigh>

peter didnt get his powers back yet.

Yeah... Noah's pretty bad****** I was impressed with his serious @$$ whooping skills.

His reaction was because he didn't know that Claire got her powers back. If she got her powers backed and healed from death, then HRG realized that meant that Sylar also got his powers back and resurrected. That was what HRG's reaction was all about.

Ok, I'm going WAY out on a limb here...but I felt that Claire dying was highly significant. For the first time Claire is in a hospital when she dies. People around know she is dead. It's not like the random cheerleader presumed dead in season one when she healed in the coroner's office. How well did Sandra lie? What did the police already ask? How much do they know? She isn't Noah and she doesn't approve of a lot of the things he does...the next volume is called Fugitives...could this be part of the setup for the fact that there are powers leaking? None of this could have happened without the eclipse.

Also, the eclipse served as a sort of spirit walk for many of the heroes. They have come to terms that they still have minds and they need to use them. Matt couldn't just go around getting all the answers with his mind google and had to bond with Daphne. Arthur was powerless, something he is not used to. The events during the eclipse led to Nathan's decision to go to Pinehearst. A lot really came out of this episode.

I thought the whole point of the eclipse was to reattach the 'heroes' with their humanity. The show was veering very far into the "we're demigods" realm. I have a feeling this will pay off in the Fugitives chapter.

I think you may be reading it wrong but I may be as well. I think his reaction to her saying he died was because she came back from the dead. That meant that Sylar probably did too. He was scrambling to protect his family. If she had just said she got better that would be one thing, she said she died. He know Sylar had Claire's power. Sylar died too. When she said she died, he said "When?" Then he said "Where's your mother?" as he was running out of her room. He knew Sylar had come back to life too and would be there at any minute.

yea he did

just wait until he realizes it next few episodes.

it's probably how he gets back to America.

someone will shoot him or something and the bullet (or whatever) will imply bounce (baron samedi's power)

he will then realize his power came back and next logical power is ... flight.

what are you talking about? he never regained his powers.
or are you making a theory that he gained his powers back because of the eclipse?

That theory, by itself, is complete bull cupcakes. He would have tried them already.

What I really don't get about the Eclipse in general is the fact they said it activated everyone's powers. Ummm.....no, it didn't. Nathan manifested before the Eclipse when he had the wreck that made his wife handicapped. Eve was able to tell Parkman to go eat donuts well before the Eclipse. Claire had been making home videos back in Odessa of suicide attempts and surviving them before the Eclipse (also she cut her hand in Six Months Ago pretty badly and it healed). Etc etc etc.

Now maybe some of you insane fanatics will try to argue that there was other Eclipses before then that enable those listed above(and more) beforehand. Well ok, but explain these things. If such Eclipses happened, wouldn't everyone's ability had manifested back in an earlier Eclipse? Wouldn't most the people I listed above have lost their powers in the pilot Eclipse? Wouldn't Arthur and Angela and the older crowd know more about the Eclipses if they had happened before and made them gain and lose their abilities? I mean Arthur was having a very very bad day last night and the week before.


Yayz...plothole.

to the unbelievers:

you'll see.

if peter was smart ... we would know by now.

come back to me after the Haitian and peter are back at primatech/pinherst ... depending on where they fly to first.

or maybe the people you are talking about are all lab created heroes.. The eclipse is not needed for them to gain their powers. (mohinder didn't have to have an eclipse... it was nighttime)

Nathan - we know is created
Claire - she was a baby after all and they knew she had powers...
Eve - they had a full folder on her when they found her. Seems they knew alot about her. (far reaching theory tho)

just dont read into it
maybe there was something special about this particular eclipse
maybe its once ever so many years kinda deal
who knows?
youll watch next week, and the week after
and then when fugitives starts

btw her name was EDEN not EVE

just pointing out

Not really...although they haven't 'officially' explained it on the show yet. The writers explained it a bit in the 'behind the eclipse' article. They said the eclipse is a kind of 'wild card' for them...it affects their powers every time it shows up, just not always in the same manner. some people got 'activated' last time. not that they ALL did, just some that hadn't already manifested. this time, it's blocking them. who knows what happens next time...?

Even if all eclipses were like this one, they only last a few hours. Unless the heroes use their powers all the time, most of them wouldn't have noticed their powers missing anyway. The few exceptions might include Daphne (feel weak and can't walk for a few hours), Adam (possibly drop dead? but then come back to life once the eclipse is gone?) etc.

i totally agree the eclipse is a huge plothole. there had to have been eclipses in the past, what makes these ones so special? they should have affected our Company people plenty of times in the past, and they would have understood at least a little bit by now.
and there have been so many that manifested powers way before the eclipse in season 1... only Daphne truly changed during the eclipse, and her story was written FOR this season.

Exactly, different eclipses' have different affects. I'm guessing this is the first that removed abilites, hence Adam's longevity. I'm sure the founders' had some knowledge of the eclipses, Arthur told Mohinder "I see we share the same facination".

i think he had that reaction because he knew Sylar wasn't dead, as he would have regenerated too.

who knows the next eclipse mite just make the heroes disappear or switch abilities or whatever n maybe it'll be permanent or not after the eclipse passes.

I think the eclispe was supposed to show who some of these people are on the inside.

Noah, Nathan, Peter and The Haitian proved that they can be awesome with or without powers.

Elle and Sylar are defined by their abilkites so without them they pretty much flounder. The same could pretty much be siad for Arthur and Flint.

Claire's arrogance when it come to her ability was taken down a peg or two because she died and it really could have stuck. She didnt realy realize how much her abilty has kept her from experiencing. Evne the bad stuff that she thought she was missing out on.

Mohinder said that most of the people he encountered with abilites had only noted them after the eclipse. He wasn't saying that the eclipse gave the people their powers he was just pointing out a possible connection. As for Nathan, I dont think he realized that he flew during Heidi accident, he even said so in the hospital scene in 6MA. So in his mind the first time he flew would be when he saved Peter which was after the eclipse.

There was no point of the eclipse. There really isn't a point to this show anymore. Its terrible writing full of,yes, plotholes and all kinds of deux ex machina. I stopped watching a couple weeks back, and just today caught up online out of boredom.

What a waste of time.

All you fanboy/girls are going to jump back, its not plotholes or bad writing, we just don't know the whole story yet!!

Give me a break. Theres simply no excuse for any show to be so predictable.

I'm pretty sure the whole idea of the Eclipse was to make them appreciate their powers. Also the only reason Sylar wasnt getting his #$% kicked by HRG was because of his powers!