1. Does anyone know if season 3 writers/ pro/ dir are all the same as the first season that make this show great?

2. Is anyone else tired at the fact that they are trying to get us emotionally attached to some character that have no big part or will just appear in a few episodes?

1. Some are the same and some are new.

2. I'm still enjoying it.

i think they should just get all the orignal writers. Put some of that budget into the old writers/ pro etc. give them a little bonus and come up with a great season 4 that will blow everyone away and rekindle the spirit that makes non-fanboys come running to see every episode.

They might be bringing Bryan Fuller back. It's been big news lately - right after they fired Jeph Loeb and Jesse Alexander. Fuller wrote Company Man.

yeah but Jeph Loeb and Jesse Alexander were there from pretty much the beginning. haven't kept up with whos writing what this season so dont know if they been slacking but all orignal writers might be great. but hell theres only so far we can go with this... maybe a movie to close it all and end it on a high note is in session

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lmao love the pic for the move

heroes is great! but ev'ry once in awhile there is stuff that is so so but dont let that ruin what a great show this is. this type of show has a learnin process of what works n what dont so dont go writin' heroes off cos when the show does end all you that complain will still complain cos there is no more heroes. kring n' company said in season 4 they will do away with time travel for awhile n' thats pretty good news right there to start off.

I've been a loyal defender of this show so much, but I just can't take it anymore.

I personally think they need to fire Tim Kring and give the show to some else. He has absolutely no flippin clue where he wants to take the characters and keeps repeating story after story after story.

He won't let characters go and then he's completely banished characters with potential from season two (Adam, Monica, Maury, Micah, Maya, Bob) just to focus on the same old played out characters from season one. It's season freak'in three and we still have the same cast of characters as season one with very minor changes. For a show like Heroes where we're suppose to believe events like this are happening throughout the world to other ordinary people, this is unacceptable.

I'm tired of the unfunny Hiro and Ando adventures, I'm tired of Sylar, I'm tired of morally grey Noah having to protect Claire, I'm tired of everything revolving around Claire, I'm tired of the Petrelli family melodrama, I'm tired of Mohinder being stupid, at least his naivete was understandable in season one, but this is ridiculous.

The only bright spots now at this point for me are Matt (who I think is pretty much the only one that has shown consistant character progression w/o backpeddling since season one), Daphne, Tracy, Sandra, and Meredith.

A part of me wishes they would have stuck with the original idea for season two with a completely new cast of characters, with apperances from the season one character mixed in throughout future seasons.

And this crushes me so much that I think this because I freak'in love this show and I'm so po'ed that Kring has just completely crapped all over it's potential.