Elle is not dead.

1. Sylar stops halfway through slicing Elle. Plus, when Elle was being sliced the first time, she was screaming like crazy and she lost control of her power because of the pain. Just because Elle feels for Sylar now is not going to stop her from feeling the excruciating pain one will feel if someone was to get their head cut open. Based on how Elle was crying in pain, rather than screaming, one would assume that Sylar was NOT cutting her deep, if anything, just scratching her.

2. Sylar pours kerosine on her in the next episode. (check the spoiler pic which was for this episode -- this was out weeks ago). KEROSINE is also used as an antiseptic. Look it up if you dont believe me. It's a common and beneficial way of treating cuts and infections. It is also used to STOP THE BLEEDING. Elle has a gun shot wound. So Sylar treats it using kerosine. It does not burn you.

3. Creators talked about exploring Elle's mother. Why do that, if Elle is dead?

4. Evil Sylar wouldn't kill Elle straight away like that. He would first use her, than kill her. Once she has no use to him, then he'll kill her. Good Sylar will just bonk her. So, it doesn't make sense for either good/evil Sylar to kill her off like that. What makes sense is good sylar being confused and frustrated, trying to be evil, but realising he can't pull through with it. Rather, he hurts her as he loses control, than stops, than treats unconscious Elle, and leaves her. He goes off and faces HRG alone. This would also open to possibilities of Elle returning next season, PREGNANT.

Creators/writers aren't that dumb to kill of Elle like that. She was Sylar's love interest. Sylar is one of the key characters of this show, and for his own development, killing of Elle would be a stupid idea.

Bumping this topic up because it sounds interesting.

I dunno... even though I wish there was a circumstance that'd better explain things that wouldn't lead to Elle's death, the theory seems to be overly hopeful and I think the writers really are that boneheaded.

I hope she's not dead either but a spark could sure ignite her.

Agreed. Especially when coming from someone with the screenname ellesylar4eva.

I honestly don't understand why people want to cling on to Elle so much. Kristen Bell wants to be in movies, and the show could only use her but so often. The show needs to dwindle down its ensemble cast. And despite how hot and great Bell is, it makes logistic sense to kill her off. Besides, Elle's character was interesting when she was a psycho, but she changed too quickly. Her development, if you choose to call it that, was done in such a hasty fashion that it didn't seem real. Also, if her death is what it takes to bring Sylar back to the way he should be, then all the more reason for her to go.

i hope she's not dead, cause that was just way to quick -.-
i like the pregnancy theory XDDD
i was wondering why elle wasn't like screaming in pain but just whimpering and stuff, and i just figured it's cause she expected it and there's nothing she can do and she are sad :[

Based on the scene, I think he lost his nerve to kill her. IMO, they left it open to either alternative based on the actresses availability.

Agreed that it seemed like he lost his nerve or something at the end. I question why he was killing her by slicing her head. Couldn't he have sliced her throat like he was going to do to HRG. There are a million ways for him to kill that are more precise. I don't think that cutting someone's forehead alone is enough to kill them.

I don't think Elle is really dead either. I mean, Elle wasn't screaming bloody murder like the first time Sylar tried to slice open her head... and it seemed like Sylar was just cutting her skin instead of the full-on skull slicing...

please move this to the spoiler section..even the title of this thread is a spoiler...by putting Elle not dead PROOF int he subject line, it is very much a spoiler..thanks

This thread should read 'Wishful Thinking' instead of 'Not Dead'.

LOL, I have to agree, she's dead, maybe she didn't scream loudly but it was pretty clear that they were bringing the old Sylar back, eyebrows and all.

I have the memory of a redfish, but I think I also remember the ''tic-tac'' at the end of the scene, along with Sylar raising his eyes up as if he had an ******, kinda the same way he did when he checked on Claire.

So I'm pretty sure she's dead. I do hope she's not, I would love that, but I doubt it!

She's dead, it's just as simple as that. The reason why she didn't scream or went into electric blast mode is most likely because unlike the last time he tried to slice her head open, she wasn't in a state of panic after finding her father dead, and she probably wasn't expecting him to do that.

Besides, if she's somehow still alive in the next episode that'll just make everything even more contrived.

Yeah, but he needed to get inside her head because he needed to understand her motives. Remember when Peter tried to slice Nathan's or Angela's head. Even though, he already had their powers, he said he needed to 'understand' their secrets.


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Agreed.

As much as I don't want Elle to be dead, the theory seems a little much. It didn't seem to me that he lost his nerve based on the look on his face when she stopped whimpering. And where does he happen to get kerosene anyway? Did he pick it up back at the grocery store just in case?

From The Eclipse part 2 to Speculation and Theories.

I don't want elle dead, because her character actually gained dimension this season. (Last season I would have liked nothing more than for this to have happened)

However, if her death ushers in a return of the sylar that I grew to know and love, I'd be willing to make that sacrifice.

Though I will have to agree with the general point of this post, because of one major thing. That being that in a tv show, when someone is about to die or whatnot at the end of the episode, and then there's a cut and the episode ends with a "to be continued" or whatnot, the character rarely actually dies.

This is the main reason I think something is up. Plus, in the picture Elle's head is cut but not descalped like Issac's or Claire's heads were . I think Sylar would want to fake her death to split them up (something she was hell bent against), that way she was protected and Gabriel doesn't have any connections to his humanity. Two for the price of one.

I know this theory is founded on being overly hopeful. When or If I'm proven wrong I'll freely admit.

Fake her death to who?

There were no witnesses.

Have even Elle believe Sylar tried to kill her, or do serious harm to her so she chooses to stay away from him.

Well since Elle's mother is also dead, as is Bob - flashback would be the only way to meet Elle's mother. Not to mention you don't need Elle around to go into who her mother is. A flashback to the elders when they were young and listening to Sweet and The Band would do the trick.

This thread is called "Elle Not Dead - proof." The thing is, you have no proof. None. What we have right now is lack of evidence that Elle is in fact dead. But that is not the same as proving she is alive. Your post fails.

Hence why I'm thinking if she did live through it, it would be through either some distraction or a second thought on the part of sylar.

Like I said, someone looks like they're about to die at the end of an episode rarely actually dies.

Though in this case, it's hard to see a way out of it, and it's arguable that she was actually dead before the episode ended.

Dang! Making a topic with my theory is a bit repetitive, isn't it?I was sitting in my class this morning and this just HIT me (much like Harry Potter's RAB). I couldn't wait to get home to post it, and someone beats me! Oh well, here goes. I guess I'll put the stuff about "that picture" in spoiler tags since other people are.

I too think that Sylar stopped before killing her. You could see him slump kind of at the end with the ticking in the background. Here is what I think happened. As he was cutting her head, he could feel (through one of the many powers he has aquired) that she is pregnant. If you needed more reason for the mad hot sex earlier in the episode other than it being mad hot, here it is. For some reason, after his little speach about parents, he couldn't bring himself to kill his child and it's mother. That is why he paused. Now, he already knows that this group won't have a normal life. They're on HRGs list for one, and countless others. I think Gabriel is going to send Elle away and do what he can so they won't be found leading me to "that picture":

If you notice in the picture, Elle's scalp is still in tact. Don't know what

that means, but I think it is something to note. Also, while I am on the picture

topic, where the heck did he get the can of kerosine? Was it just lying around

on the deserted beach in case someone wants to set something on fire? I think

they leaveand come back. Perhaps it's a decoy body, (I know it sounds crazy, but

the face looks so much like Ali!).

On something ZQ said awhile ago: Noah's mother is silver toungued and ALIVE. Hinting that we might think she is

dead at one point. Of course she would be alive when he said that, other wise

there would be no chance to have the kid in the first place.

On Kristen from E!: Yeah, I know she isn't always reliable, but she did mention a cover-up in the

latest redux.

So there you have it. What I did in my college science class this morning.

haha I was thinking the same thing about the picture in my college Italian class about an hour ago

Yeah, and I hope the latest Watch With Kristin was referring to Elle to.

Makes since to me. I'm hoping she's not dead. I was thinking the same thing though about how just because she fell in love with Sylar doesn't mean that she wouldn't scream from the pain of getting the top of her head cut off.

I'm trying to put myself in Sylar's shoes. The man knows exactly how things work. He knows he already has her ability so really the only reason he'd kill her is to kill her and i doubt he'd kill her by slicing her head open. I figure if he really was going to kill her to kill her he would use his electricity ability on her. Than again if he just wanted to get knowledge from her than i think he'd torture her for a while first. I think a way the writers could end her storyline for the time being is for Sylar to make the attempt to kill her and leave her alive to ensure she'll never come around him again.

I think little Noah was conceived last episode, because im pretty sure they weren't carrying protection around

But why would they name their son Noah after everything that has just happened?

This isn't proof she is alive, but there isn't proof she is dead either...

Perhaps HRG was telling him the truth about his parents. This could start Sylar down the road of not having to be special.

I was thinking they would name him Noah because of what Sylar said. "I'm going to be someone more like... you. A family person who isn't afraid to get the job done,"

Actually, in my opinion, that future is null and void now.

Hmm, well unless someone put that fire out fast, I'm pretty sure Elle ain't coming back as Elle. Could always be some time travel or flashback-age in the next Volume of course.

LOL, Kerosene as an antiseptic was a bit of a stretch when it's in the hands of a serial killer ;-) sorry made me giggle a bit.

I liked Elle a lot and it's too bad she's dead, but at the same time I think it did way more to convince everyone of how irredeemable Sylar is! He a vewy baaad man, and any turn he makes to good will tak a lot longer than his brief 'lapse' this volume. I love it, and I've been a Sylar hater until this season.

well done. You brought back a dead topic. Now in order for it not to arouse again and haunt us till the end of time, I bid farewell to this thread. Adieu, adieu. RIP.