If Ando is allowed to get near Peter then Peter will be all powerful and might as well end the show with Peter saving everything.

...Could you expand on that a bit?

We don't know what the limits and whatnot for Ando's power are, yet. If Peter does absorb it, we don't know if he can use it on himself or not. My guess would be not, for this reason.

I mean, can Ando use it on himself to amp up his own power to amp up other evolved humans?

good point prander..he might not be able to use it on himself. But if he happens to get the cloning power then he could lol. Not that that will happen.


If peter can amp his empathy up he can fly around the world at super speed and get every power in existence in about 3 seconds. Then he could use that amplifying energy to over power any ability he has. Peter = God. That is assuming he can use it on himself. If there is any mutant out there with a cloning power then I assume he could.

We don't know if Peter got his old "Slyar-like" ability back or just flying so Ando just might make him fly really really well.

We know he can use two powers at once, but can he make the powers interact with eachother? I don't think so. That would be kind of messy (try to picture Ted's radiation and Elle's lightening...yeah.) So I change my answer to no, he can't use Ando's ability to amp himself.

Maybe he would be immune to it. It would be an easy way to escape Peter being even more powerful than he would be otherwise, even if someone else tried to use it on him.

Edit: Also, the ability doesn't seem to be danger free. If he can amplify his own abilities, he could just overload and die or something.

I would very much like him to be immune to it.

That's not necessarily true, the acceleration of more than one abilty in one given time could actually be deadly to Peter. Also Ando wouldn't have to touch Peter for Peter to get that power anyway.

Peter does not get abilities by touch..he just has to be close to you.

If people are worried about Peter being too powerful, they should know Ando could do some serious damage to Peter. He could have amped Matt's ability until he was in a coma. Imagine what he could do to someone with multiple abilities?

Peter has his empathic ability back likely, but its possible that Ando's power is one that neither he or Sylar could copy, and is unique to him (Only for Sidekicks...not Heroes and Villians heh heh).

That would be cool and refershing to be honest. The Haitian's ability hasn't been copied, and it would be cool if Ando's couldn't be.

Its also makes Ando dangerous to both, as he could amplify either of them to the point they detonate like bomb.

The Haitians ability was confirmed copied by Arthur.

I know. That's what I said. Meaning that Ando's power works through touch.

Peter doesn't need Ando's ability to suck for being too powerful, so what would the big difference be. Don't get me wrong, I loved the finale of Volume 3, but this is one thing I'm sorely disappointed for. I really wanted to continue liking Peter, and now by giving him back the "power sponge" ability, I'm 100% sure I'll never like him again. Once again he'll become uberpowerful and able to solve any problem that arises with absolute simplicity, and when he doesn't there'll be ten thousand threads of people whining "Peter could've used [insert ability] to solve that problem instead of having to go through a whole conflict about it, man the writers sure suck!", believe me, the first time in volume 4, in which uber-powerful-Peter DOESN'T use a particular power to solve a situation and people open a thread to whine about it, I'll just type: I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN, DIDN'T I? in big red bold letters.

Peter, as a character to me, is now officially dead. Unless they've found a way to limit the abilities he absorbs and his usage of them, to me he's a pointless, and boring character that will just continue to screw up the show, like he did in season 2.

Good bye, Peter, I'll miss when you used to be an interesting character during 3/4 of volume one and half of volume 3.

Could the power possibly expand Peter's range for his IM? Such as with Parkman being able to hear thoughts louder than ever before, it could possible be used as a range expander for Peter and he can absorb abilities without ever being near a person.

Yeah, this is probably what would happen! However, right after that all those hundreds of power he just got would all activate at the same time at extreme conditions, just like Daphne and Matt. But now, 100 power overloading at the same time, I'm not sure he could survive that. Unless he gets Claire's power, which would overload like all the other ones! :p

Actually, let's hope for Peter that he can't use Ando's power on himself, as he would literally make the world explode that way! Hey, good plot device for a future Volume (and it would be similar to Volume 1, so people would stop complaining! LOL :p)

Peter doesn't seem like one to be out to become a god. Sylar? Yes. Peter? No. Especially where his character seems to be turning in Volume Four, we don't seem to be threatened by Peter becoming uber-powerful and letting it get to his head. Plus,a as people have brought up, Peter would probably overload and explode or something Ando's power supercharge him.

Hmm that's interesting. I think people would complain either way so there is no getting around that, they complained plenty during S1. I do think that coming into contact with Ando and having Ando touch him would be a disasterous. I don't think it would have the same effect if Peter simply absorbed the power by proximity, but if Ando were to use the power on him I could see Peter overloading. Even more so since walking down the street he could absorb who knows how many abilities.



I agree. I never got that impression from Peter. He never struck me as one to abuse his abilities.

Yeah. Use them stupidly and screw things up in ways that he would have been better off not using his abilities in the first place? Yes. Abusing them? No.

Confirmed by who? The mailman? Seriously, where did you hear this?

Nah. Peter using the power on himself would be just as silly as Ando using it on himself. If Ando touched himself, would his boosting power boost his own power so that he could boost others without touching them? See how silly that is? Powers like that just don't work that way.

And like everyone else is saying, if Ando ever tried to boost Peter, Peter would probably die from the strain of his dozens of powers overloading. I reckon someone on the show will be smart enough to know that boosting Peter is a bad idea.

I think what would happen is that Peter will go near Ando, absorb the power but then become immune to it in the process. So then Ando can't boost Peter and Peter cannot boost himself.

Perhaps Ando's power might help Peter get some previously unattainable powers. For example, Peter couldn't absorb the Haitian's power, or Arthur's, or of Sylar's IA (until f!Sylar taught him to access it). Ando might allow Peter to gain these.

Arthur erased Hiro's memories. Did you miss the last couple episodes?

BTE said Arthur used it to "mind-wipe" Hiro.

If Ando touched Claire, would she turn into a giant ball of Cancer?

It would be interesting to use Ando to "push" an evolved human through the "suppression" aspect of The Haitian's power.

Dude that was general telepathy mental manipulation.

The Haitian is specialized mental manipulation.

I suspect Ando would only boost Peter's acquired powers rather than his EM, just to make the story easier

So I guess for you is ok if sylar goes around and takes any ability he likes with the people playing sitting ducks for him so he can kill them easily and additionaly can take advantage of a power immediately the whole time is ok but peter absorbing powers that he partially doesn't even know that he has and has to unlock them before he can even use them is too much? O_o

As about the OP:
I think that andos power is useable only to others like ishis and lindermans healing or paulas augmentation.

So no matter if peter gets this power or not, it will be useless for him.
The only thing he could do would be to help others with abilities that way as well but thats it.

In my opinion peter can never be overpowered since he can't use a ability immediately when he gets it as long as its not a ability that makes him notice like Teds radiation or kicks in when he is hurt like Claires regeneration.

He got super hearing from Sylar and he never used it because he never knew how it works.
Same with Zanes and other many abilities he got from sylar and others (Eden as example too).

I won't answer for him, but personnally, yes, it is sorta ok, plot-wise. Because Sylar's one of the bad guy! One trick in the ''Super-Heroes'' universe is to make the bad guys significally stronger or more dangerous than the good guys! It makes the viewer wonder how the heroes will manage to get throught it. That's why many complaint arises from Peter being overstrong. But this issue is not the same for guys like Sylar or Arthur, 'cause they were the evil one!

The difference is the side they're on:
Inferior heroes facing a highly powerful villain -->
Highly powerful heroes facing inferior villain -->



(Edit: Just noticed evagolden already made this point in a more sophisticated way. )

A lot of people seem to believe that Peter is too powerful, or will/can grow too powerful. I just don't see it.

Season One established that too many powers can be disastrous, as Peter can lose control of his emotions and lose control of his powers. He's still a human, and a human can never be a god even if they become all-powerful, since the human mind will simply not be able to understand or handle all that power.

Even if Peter does grow extremely powerful, this simply sets him up to be a more complex character, as I would expect of him. I would think greater power comes with greater emotional instability.
Superman is, for all intents and purposes, all powerful. (Kryptonite is a plot device, not a weakness.) It's the emotional struggle behind the character that makes him what he is. The desperation to save everyone, the sense of self-righteousness, and the fiery temper that can cloud said hero's judgement.
So just because a person is perceived to be 'too powerful' doesn't mean it has to be to the detriment of the story. Power and stoicism do not go hand in hand. There's a strong character study to be made there, of just what it means to be human, and whether or not power plus goodwill equals heroism.

Not true, he showed this in the future when he punched Claire using super speed and he did it in Dual with Nathan. I would say he can use it immediatley as long as he knew what he was getting, case in point in that same episode he used Flint's blue flame walking into the Gabriel Petrelli home. lol

I didn't say Peter was trying to become a god. I am saying if he can use Ando's power on himself(if he gets it) then he will be like a god.

No "DUDE" the writer said he used the Haitians ability on Angela and on Hiro. That's also why linderman was able to heal Angela's memory and Ishi was able to heal Hiro's. The Haitian's power does damage to the brain when used to erase memories. And the damage part we learned from the Haitian erasing Claire's moms memory too many times.

That is true in most cases and in this case as well. If Peter and Sylar both had 100 powers and they fought, (and I mean a real fight, not like the one where Sylar just sat there and took it,) Sylar would win because Sylar has a brain while Peter makes really stupid choices and a lot of mistakes. So in essence Peter is underpowered because of his mind compared to Sylar.

Heh. Did you miss the episode where it was revealed that Arthur was messing with Angela's mind for ages? It was simple mental manipulation from telepathy, not the Haitian's power.



1) Link?


2) The BTE answers range from funny, to evasive, to serious and logical, to serious and completely, absolutely, non-nonsensical and contradictory. You can no longer accept their answers as fact do to the sloppiness of their answers. Assuming they did answer this way of course, see 1).

Ok, since this is veering madly off topic (I admit, in big part my fault), I'll say something then get back on topic: Peter isn't inferior to Sylar because of his mind, and if they kept him that way, we'd have so much fanboy whining it would be enough to fill the entire badwidth of the internet EVERYWHERE. Besides, you're saying that as though Peter's only purpose in the show is to be Sylar's foil, and how INCREDIBLY boring is that? There's so much other things they can do and have done with Peter besides confronting Sylar, and it's for those other things (which comprise the MAJORITY of the character) that Peter should NOT be incredibly powerful, because that robs those moments of poignancy, and interest. I mean, seriously, what conflict could they possibly give Peter that he can't instantly fix without having every fan come up with a "he should've solved it this way, therefore the writers suck" thread? Besides, Sylar is a threat to everyone, not just Peter, as it was clearly shown in the finale of Volume 3, and Peter had nothing to do with defeating him, so it's definitely possible to beat Sylar without having a million different powers in one person. Sylar should be the LEAST of concerns when it comes to reasons why Peter should or shouldn't be megapowered, we should think FIRST and FOREMOST about the development of his character, which would be incredibly lessened and limited by him being infalible and able to do everything. So, for Peter's sake I hope the writers do the smart thing, and not the "I'm a Peter fangirl, and Milo is like SO HAWT, so he should be the most superpoweredest in the world!" thing.

Now back on topic on my part, I think perhaps Ando's power might work like a lot of powers do, in the sense that the power carrier is immune to the power itself, for example, Hiro and Peter were immune to times stopping, Ishi and Linderman were unable to heal themselves and each other, Meredith and Flint were impervious to fire, etc ,etc. So even if Peter acquired Ando's power I'm pretty sure he would not be able to magnify his own power.

The effect of magnifying the EM, to the point of being able to absorb every power in a mile radius would be really cool for like a desperate climatic moment (again, as long as he eventually loses the powers, or maybe he overloads and is primed to blow up again), but Ando's power should be treated almost like a Holy Grail of powers, something that isn't as simple as just "yay, I'm Peter, I absorbed it, now Ando is redundant".

"It seemed like Arthur was going to do something quite nasty to Hiro, but got distracted by the picture on the rocks. Was it Arthur's intent to turn Hiro into a 10-year-old? If so, why do that instead of killing him or removing his powers?"

It was not Arthur's intent to turn Hiro into a 10-year-old. Arthur was in the process of using the Haitian's ability to mind-wipe all the things Hiro learned from his spirit walk in the "Villains" episode. But yes, he got distracted by that eclipse. Who knows what else he might have done if Hiro and Ando didn't get out when they did.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18931




And I was just using the Sylar vs Peter as an example and yes Sylar is definitely smarter then peter. Don't get me wrong Peter is my favorite character but he is a bumbling idiot half the time.

And how pray tell did Arthur get The Haitian's power? He certainly didn't suck it out because The Haitian still has it. He didn't get Peter's EM power until very recently so he didn't absorb it that way. He wait a minute, I thought Peter couldn't absorb the Haitian's power? The writers may even have claimed that at some point. But apparently stupidness wins out - which isn't a surprise because we are talking about the writers of Heroes here. Even though The Haitian and Peter will meet every so often (meaning Peter will certainly absorb The Haitian's power again, a power he knows about to boot) I guarantee you that Peter will never, ever use The Haitian's power on the show. Why? Because even though the writers are stupid, they are not THAT stupid. They can barely handle writing for Peter now... what the hell are they going to do when Peter could end every fight with a bullet or a tranquilizer dart?

You ask for a link and I give one too you but no that is not good enough for you. Even though the writers say he used the power. Nowhere has it ever been stated that Arthur had to steal your power in order to get it. He just stole it from people he considered a threat. Also how do you know that the Haitian was the only one to ever exist with that power. Remember to taught Sylar how to get a power by empathizing.. you think he knew how to do this how? He obviously knew how to do it already.

Did you forget to read my point 2? My post only had 2 points, I am surprised you missed it:





Actually, yes it has. In those BTE's you are so fond of. "CZ: Arthur’s power would be best described as power theft. And yes, he takes it and leaves the other person powerless." http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18602


That destroys the writer's claim that it was The Haitian's power.



Pure speculation based on no evidence.

Also, Arthur didn't teach Sylar anything. He put him in the same room as Elle and locked the door.

This is from BTE Week 5

“So we've established that Arthur can absorb powers by physical contact, which isn't necessarily fatal in and of itself unless you're poor Adam whose body is too damn old. Now, is his power like the graphic novel character Linda Tavara's aura absorption (she did kill everything she absorbed from), or is it something more sophisticated like Power Theft? The other question that goes with this of course is does he have to necessarily take the power and leave the other powerless, or can he just copy it for personal use?”

CZ: Arthur’s power would be best described as power theft. And yes, he takes it and leaves the other person powerless.

Edit: Darn Clay, you beat me to it. Oh well. But this is a perfect example of the writers not taking these BTEs seriously or they don't watch their own show.

Maybe you missed the part where Arthur told Sylar that he can absorb powers without killing by accessing his empathy. Sure, he did just lock Sylar with Elle, but he gave a little hint first.

Doesnt matter.. I threw out a bunch of possibilities... sorry for not numbering them. And believe what you want but the writers said it was the Haitians power. So that makes your argument worthless. Whether plausible or not that is the power that was used.

And yes Arthur did teach Sylar how to get power by empathizing...re watch the episode.

Yeah, but he's still only telling that it's possible, not how to do it. He did absolutely no teaching.

I don't know why people are still arguing about Arthur using the Haitian's power. It was confirmed that he did. You're just in denial if you still don't think he did, but I have no idea why you would care to be. So what, you were wrong, who cares?