How can his power kill him. Wouldn't he protected by the rule of ted?

Since he creates a vortex wouldn't there be a possibility of worm hole?

Maybe he transported himself somewhere. Though I know most likely he is dead. But I think he should be immune to the vortex.

I agree! He was a great character and the actor was fun to watch. It's yet another flexible Heroes law. Ted, Flint and Meredith are immune to their respective elements, but Elle can get hurt by electricity if she's wet!?!? Wouldn't S1 Sylar and S3 Tracy notice that they never need a jacket?

1: Immune to their own power and the side effects. Weather is not a side effect of power. Sylar & Tracy needed jackets.

2: It's a flexible rule of the genre, not just Heroes. People with energy abilities cannot be harmed by their own ability, but they can feel pain associated with it as long as alterations to the energy are made. (In Elle's case, the feedback caused by her being soaked altered the output enough to "hurt" her.)

3: Vortex guy was another genre-tendency. He can't be sucked into his own black holes, unless he wants to be.

That seems at odds with common sense. The Human Torch can't be hurt by his own fire, other people's fire, steam from an oven or any source of heat whatsoever. He would not be as uncomfortable as a regular person in the middle of a desert in July. Iceman would not be in mortal danger if you dropped him off in the arctic with only some Bermuda shorts. His body is designed to withstand cold, therefore he doesn't need a jacket. It seems silly to me that Elle can generate bolts of lightning, yet still supposedly gets shocked if she puts her tongue on a 9 volt battery..! As for black holes, I say the rule is bogus simply because I want Stephen Canfield back! How's that for logic?

At odds with Common Sense..and you quote me Marvel comics' characters?

Meredith also can't "flame on" like Johnny Storm, and Tracy can't convert her entire body to ice. Not only is that something they can't do, it's something that will not happen on the show. (Thank God)


Is she the one powering the 9volt? In that case..why is it surprising that she can be shocked by one?
Notice that she can't be harmed by electricity, but she can be hurt. (Difference being you can feel pain without actually being injured.)

Of course Marvel is common sense, DC is the one who made a movie showing Superman lifting a Kryptonite island into space..!! jeez...

Anything that hurts is causing harm. Even if he harm is minor it is causing the harm thus your brain makes pain to get you to stop doing that.


AMEN!

Incorrect. Pain is the body's way to tell you that harm is on the way. It's the bodies way to tell you to stop what you're doing before you get hurt.

Frequently, there is actual injury (harm) along with pain, but not always.

Pain is the result of injury even if its only on the cellular lever where you cannot see it with the visible eye.

Either way though, with as much pain as Elle was feeling she was definitely receiving injury. Which she should not have been given her power is electricity.

Pain does not require injury. All pain truly is, is the nerves relaying a set of signals to the brain where they are interpreted. That's it.

Pain is frequently accompanied by injury, but it is not an if/then proposition.

Like I said "Either way though, with as much pain as Elle was feeling she was definitely receiving injury. Which she should not have been given her power is electricity."

Why was she definitely getting injured? She was in pain. That was it. There were never any tell tale signs of injury by electrocution.
And, again, she was getting blasted with electricity that was not simply a by product of her ability. It was feedback- and feedback is always altered slightly. Obviously, that alteration was enough to make the electricity "unrecognizable" to her body.

Protection from one owns Power is not a Hard and Fast Rule.

If a Telekinetic Meets another Telekinetic is he immune to being affected by his opponents TK? No.

If a Telepath Meets another Telepath is he immune to his opponents Telepathy? Matt vs Maury, Matt vs Peter. Again no.

Meredith and Flint are apparently completely immune to the effects of fire, From any source.

In Elle's case it could be a number of things. Maybe Synch is right; Perhaps her body resists damage to her own output;but when energy comes from an outside source it isn't compensated for. In the end it doesn't matter, because we know that Elle can be hurt(pain) or damaged from outside sources of Ellectricity.

as another way to explain Elle's resistance/immunity to her own output, consider the emotional/mental state she's in; the control over her power.

In season 2 when she was introduced, she was "fairly" stable mental state as can be for this character, confident, etc. and has perfect control of the power.

in Season 3, she was all but killed physically and emotionally by Sylar in Level 5, which led to her Pikachu overload. Afterward, she couldn't control the ability and in constant pain due to being emotionally destroyed from her "creation" Sylar killing her dad and almost killing her, thus costing her a job/life, etc. This pain went away once she became "stable" again in her confrontation with Sylar at Pinehearst.