It would appear they've finally come up with a nice limitation for Peter. It doesn't explain him gaining flight last volume, but I can live with that if they stick with this new manifestation of his ability.

Oops, I was wrong about the flight thing. I re watched Dual and he definitely grabbed Nathan before he flew both of them out of the building.

True. I like it better like this. More like Arthur's

nice sig. would be better if Sylar was in there

Did his power change? Does he have to touch someone now? Why? And, sorry, my TV was fuzzy. Can he only hold one power at a time?

???

Yeah I'm wondering that too, i mean if it is like Arthur then doesnt that mean Tracey and Mohinder dont have their ability anymore? Still I don't think so...it's just a new version of his ability.

No, last season he grabbed Nathan before taking off. It explains it.

this was the only thing that annoyed me about this episode

Love it!!
I'm SO HAPPY with this new limitation!

I think he can only absorb one power at a time. He takes Tracy's freezing power and he no longer has super strength (I think that's why Mohinder was able to grab him like that). When he took Mohinder's power, I don't think he could fly anymore. Sucks for him.

i thought he was just shocking whatever was keeping mohinder sedated

Peter does appear to have the "touch" like Rogue, but does he have control of his power? Seems like he wanted Mohinder's strength, but unknowingly took Tracy's cyrokinesis. I like this new limit. Was this also Arthur's power, he had to touch to take people's abilities?

I like it. Peter still has a cool power but there is a limit to it now.

I would be happy with it as well, and I don't think their abilities are gone.

However, I really do remember him start to fly and then push Nathan out the window (with himself, of course)..

i also like this new use for peter. if he didnt have it then he would have been too powerful again just by bein on the plane.

I really hope he can still hold more than one power. But I think that may be the case.

Remember when Nathan asked Peter what all he could do now, Peter's response was "What's the last thing you saw me do?" It also would explain why they made such a big deal of Peter almost falling out of the plane at the end: He's holding Tracy's power at the moment and can no longer fly.

I'm really gonna be ticked if this is the case.

Yeah, remember in the finale for the last volume, all his powers were gone, but then he shot himself up with the formula and flew away, carrying Nathan.

It seems that his new ability is right in between his old mimicry and Arthur's ability. He absorbs powers through touch but doesn't steal them. A very good solution to the "all-powerful Peter" problem, without taking away all the fun in his character. I really liked it.

I'm sure someone will check, but I thought he tackled Nathan and then flew out the window...

Also if he can only hold one power at a time, the "GRAB MY HAND SO I CAN HAVE YOUR POWER" is going to get real old real fast...

How could that annoy you? It's an intelligent and logical limitation to his ability. Now he won't be Superman is the span of forty seconds. Now it remains to be seen if he can hold one ability at a time and, if so, can he use more than one at a time too?

I, too, am going to be very upset if he can only hold one power at a time. Does this mean that with the shot, he just as easily could have gotten the ability to breathe fire, shoot rockets from his nose, teleport, etc.?

I'm going to need a darn good explanation about why/how he changed.

funny thing is did tracys gloves mearly fall off? she was still shackled with the gloves on when we saw her then shes shackled with gloves off BIG snafu there just for peter todo that.

yeah it would really suck if he could only hold one power. i dont think thats the case though, I dont think they would do that.

x2.

Although some possible scenarios if he can only hold one power:

-Ando supercharges him which allows him to keep multiple powers.
-Peter touches Sylar does he absorb every one of Sylar's powers?

I think Claire took them off?

How can anyone be ****** about this? Seriously! We all saw how terrible Peter and the show became when he was a walking Dues ex Machina. This is a good thing people.

There seem to be several questions to ask...

Does he absorb (mimic), like he did before, or does he steal powers, like Arthur?
Does he do so only by touch?
Does he permanently retain the power(s)?
Or does he temporarily get one at a time? If that's the case, is there a time limit as to how long it's retained or does he retain it until he gets a new one?

claire coudlnt get them off though without undoing her shackles. woudl they really give them THAT much room in the shackles?

he doesn't steal powers- mohinder still had his power after... he broke the shackles holding him down
as to the other questions, i have no idea

Well Tracy is drugged up and cant move her hands much so if they gave her a little room with the cuffs it wouldnt be a big deal really, so I guess that's why Claire could take them off.

i'm kinda of disappointed in the new evolution of peter's empathic mimicry. I think it would have been better to have him not gain his power back completely and only be able to use powers he is close to. Maybe even have him resort to having to have him do empathy the way sylar did. But him have to touch someone and maybe only have on power is kinda wierd. especially because they have set up the ground rules that the make up for you power is hard wired, and the formula was supposed to wake up dormant traits of your dna.

his abilitly to absorb another persons powers was what made him one notch above sylar. albiet, sylar is my all time fav, but he is a bad guy and needs someone more powerful then him as peter was, up until this episode.
and please sir/maam and anothers who agree with you...that is a stupid idea to have peter use one power at a time..stupid enough that it would make no sense to have peter go in that direction.

ALLOW ME EXPLAIN...OR NOT I DONT REALLY CARE

let me preface by saying i hate peter...

but, the show needs a super bad ****** like pete. hes a frickin goody good, not to mention that sylar needs his ying...or yang, which is ever is good.
touch is a nice limitation, i dont doubt you "touch lovers", but sylar has a limit...(well at least its what he is limiting himself to)..brains, but he is bad, he needs limits.
Peter is his A #1 rival, and without peter being the super of supers, doubt me if you want, but that then gives sylar the uber duber crown of supers in the show.
and despite how much us sylar ppl would love to see that, this show does infact needs have to give good more of chance then bad, why, thats what ppl want.

and i dont care what anyone says, sylar is not good, he is not morally gray..he is bad, perhaps a bit to gullible, but he is the only truely bad person on the show.
everone does what they do because they think its right, if it is or not, like aurthor, he does.
he kills for self gain and becuase he likes it.

your boy, peter, does not. hes a good boy who fights for truth and justice...like superman...uck

I'm curious as to how Peter knew he had to touch someone to gain their ability after he gave himself the injection. I think he would have assumed he had the same ability he did before Arthur took it.

nah...i think he's just bitter and it made him bad. if his lifehad not turned out the way it did, i'm sure he would be a totally different person. all he ever wanted was a real family!

but i agree with you on the peter thing. sylar DOES need an equal, and now peter can only have onepower at a time?
i honestly dont think thats true, i think he could hold more than one.

I think he has the same ability, just like everyone else his power has evolved.

He could pick whether he absorbs around him or by touch. We know he is being "smart" so far, and if I were him, I wouldn't absorb all the powers around me on a power-filled plane. It could easily kill people he knows/cares about. So he decided to be careful and go for Mohinder first. Maybe his touch power can only hold one power at a time and give him control of that power? I don't think he knew what Tracy's power was.

I don't think he knew he had to touch. This is just speculation, but it seems easier to grab hold of someone then fly away than it is to start flying then attempt to grab hold of them.

So because Sylar's outlived his usefullness and been made into a walking god they should do the same with Peter? Again. The entire point of Peter losing his abilities was to get rid of that problem and you want to say screw it and go again? Peter and Sylar aren't "yin and yang" because of what abilites they possess, it's because of their personalities and acquiring abilities being two side of the same coin. You speak as if a group of heroes banding together to stop the powerful villain is so unprecendented in superhero mythos.

Good Point, just like when he learned Sylar's power, its possible that he could understand when to use his and when to limit his ability to take others powers.

i hope he doesnt have Arthur's power to take away other peoples power, that would really mess things up, but i doubt it's that

If Peter can only hold one power at a time, he's boring and useless, so they may as well kill him off.

I think Peter can probably hold onto more than one power but has to touch to gain the power. I may be wrong, but I think that makes the most sense.

if only he had been able to do that with ted sprague!

This is a perfect way to start off the volume. Angela had said the formula was a "WEAKER" version than the original. So, Peter's absorbing ability is weaker also now. He has to touch you to absorb your abilities. I also re-watched the "Dual" episode. After injecting himself, Peter tackles Nathan and then flys out the window, so there wasn't a writers mistake there.

This is also very good because if there is a single vile of the formula remaining then it's what Hiro wants obviously. If it's the same formula then Hiro's powers would be "WEAKER" too. He may be able to teleport and stop time, but not travel through time. This is good because time travel is a headache. It will put an end to non-stop forum posts about, "Why didn't Hiro just travel in time to this or that?"...etc.

When did Angela say that? I think the weaker formula is the one that did not have 'the light' in it, the one that Peter injected with himself is the real deal, since Ando injected himself with the formula then he shouldn't have his ability the way it is, it is one of the strongest abilities around.

they made peter #1 in the first half of season 1. we all knew this is where he was going, i would say he and sylar but not many folks expected sylar to go past season 1 or 2, for that matter.
cant help your perturbed about sylar sticking around to long but ehh, whatever

i must disagree with you though about the yin/yang nonsense, one has/had the power to absorb powers just by being near you, the other absorbs powers by breaking/cutting your head open and finger banging your brain.

i dont understand how its ok for this show to have a super group, but 2 super duper fellows on opposite sides of the fence is such a destructive idea.

as much as i hate saying it, there needs to be a hero of heroes, especially in a show like this. and yes peter did have a limit...arthur

i would love if nothing but villians ran the streets of this show, it would make it a billion times better, but sadly for folks like me, theres more ppl that want the opposite.
good always overcomes evil in comics and we will eventually see that in this show



i cant/refuse to except that peter can have 1 power at a time, it gives sylar to much of an edge...plus considering that he is going to join up with the swat team, it gives him WAY to much of an edge over everyone

THANK GOD they put a possible limit on his power. They should have done that all the way back in season one!

toksik: I think you need some ABC in writting. In a Fantasy and/or Sci-Fi show where there is good guys and bad guys (and Heroes fall into that category), the bad guys must either a) be stronger than the good guys, be more intelligent than the good guys or c) all of the above. Now, I didn't mind as much as others the Empathy of Volumes 1, 2 and 3 (well, half of 3), but if indeed his power is now limited to physical contact for absorption and to one power at a time (the first one is obviously true, the second one, still have to figure it out, but it make senses with what Nathan and Peter said), then that's make him weaker than Sylar, and least intelligent than Nathan. Which means the bad guys are stronger than the good guys. Consequently, the watcher is kept addicted, wondering how a weaker guy will win against stronger guys. This solve one of the few issues that the show had with previous volumes.

Now about how his ''Empathy'' works (if we can still call it that). We know he has to touch. And we know he can absorbs, just like before. I seriously doubt he steals, 'cause then everyone would lose his power. We don't know if he holds one power at a time and, seriously, I didn't though of that by seeing that scene, I just thought he was surprised he captured an Ice power without noticing. It makes sense, but we'll have to wait for next episode for him to say ''I can't fly anymore'' before being sure!

It is an interesting way of doing things, I must say. And I like the idea that Hiro may get a power without Time-Traveling. I didn't mind Time-Travel before, I actually enjoyed trying to figure out the timelines, but I understand some people didn't like it. But I hope he gets something back! He could!

If Peter's new powers work in a way that he has to touch someone to "absorb" their abilities, then how did he get nathan's power from the last episode of volume 3 when he flew at him before he made contact with him.

And at the end of the episode, how Peter is holding on for dear life... he can fly! And don't give me that excuse that the writers chose not to use one of his many powers for the purpose of the storyline bullcrap. They even mention that he can fly in the same episode. The longer it went on, the angrier I got, he can fly for pete's sake (pun intended).

To the people who are upset with the way Peter's new ability is going: we all saw how overpowered Peter got when he had his previous empathic type power. This put limits on it. Limits are not a bad thing. They create more of a challenge that I'm assuming Peter will need to learn to overcome. Don't knock it too hard, people. It's only been one episode. Thus far we don't even really know what's going on with his power.

I really hope the writers wouldn't denote Peter to just being able to absorb one ability at a time. I like the touching aspect but please let him be able to retain more than one ability.

He injected himself with the formula in episode 13, so maybe that had something to do with it. I, for one, am glad that they've expanded his powers to actually choose which abilities he's going to take instead of randomly abosorbing them. Just because he can fly doesn't mean he should. Honestly, at the rate things were going, it would've been very unwise of him to let go. He wouldn't have had much control at all, so perhaps that's the reason he was hanging on.

Ok, there is a subject about it already, you should go there for answers. But still, I'll resume it:

1- Someone rewatched the Duel scene and it appears that Peter tackled Nathan (thus, touching him) before flying away with him.

2- There is now a theory that flies around that says that Peter can only hold one ability at a time. A few clues here and there (such as, the way Peter and Nathan talks about Peter's ability) leads to that. But this is still unclear. I must say, even if he still has flying back, I mean, the place is crashing at high speed, you must really master your flying capacity for not being knocked out by the falling plane!

I don't think he did fly before he got to nathan, he grabed him and then flew out the window. About the end I was thinking "just fly already" the whole time. Then I thought that he probably can only hold one ability at a time now. So as soon as he touched mohinder he lost flight and gained strength.