bhero2all
Feb 9 2009, 07:02 PM
Luke the Nuke boy... Oh so many names.
So how long can Sylar work with someone else? It's obvious that he is using him but what happens when Sylar gets what he wanted?
What's the off chance that the two of them are closer then they think, like family. I don't like the idea of Sylar finding more long lost relatives but a little brother might be cool.
Well I like the idea of them working together if even for a short while. I especially would like to see Sylar use his empathy to relate to Luke and gain his ability.
wolfbro
Feb 9 2009, 07:03 PM
Luke and Sylar.
I have only one thing to say right now...
Jumper
Feb 9 2009, 07:05 PM
I'm worried about Luke's ability, because it is basically Radiation right? So will enough practice and if his ability grows I think Luke's ability will become something that reminds us of a certain Hero from season 1...
Zensu14
Feb 9 2009, 07:18 PM
I think Microwaves are different than Radiation. Not 100% sure on that.
SuperZero0
Feb 9 2009, 07:38 PM
Yea I'm pretty sure Sylar has a sidekick now. I think of it as an unwanted sidekick but still a sidekick lol.
rayne
Feb 9 2009, 07:42 PM
luke is pretty cool, lets hope sylar doesnt kill him atleast not this season.
Jumper
Feb 9 2009, 07:46 PM
QUOTE (Zensu14 @ Feb 9 2009, 10:18 PM)

I think Microwaves are different than Radiation. Not 100% sure on that.
Still...if his power is to grow and become more powerful than just sending out waves then we can surely see a power ability in development right now.
Oh crap I just had a thought...what if Ando were to touch him by mistake?
jbs829
Feb 9 2009, 07:59 PM
QUOTE (Zensu14 @ Feb 9 2009, 10:18 PM)

I think Microwaves are different than Radiation. Not 100% sure on that.
Microwaves only create the molecules of something to speed up, causing them to heat up
Radiation is the decaying of atoms over time
much different than ted's ability
Caffeinedd
Feb 9 2009, 08:03 PM
I was wondering if Sylar was going to end up killing him too. He left him alive once, but I can't imagine Sylar parting ways with anyone without killing them. Except for Mohinder, but that was a special bond..
Zensu14
Feb 9 2009, 08:03 PM
Yeah, I thought they were different. Didn't bother looking it up at the moment though.
RubberDucky
Feb 9 2009, 08:11 PM
well the choice of Luke could have some connection to StarWars - which could mean they are related. however not father/son - I am thinking brothers as well - why else would the line about Luke's mother being a whore be included. she probably hooked up with Sylar's dad. and also why would Luke know where Sylar's dad really is.
Leek
Feb 9 2009, 08:13 PM
I LOVE IT
I have wanted this EXACT situation to happen for SO LONG. I am so excited, I think there is such awesome potential for where they can take this.
And FINALLY it is nice to have a character who knows about Sylar and does NOT think he is hell on two legs. It adds and interesting aspect.
And a character that Sylar genuinely does not want to kill because he "cares" for. I say "cares" because I don't mean it in the conventional sense obviously. Wooo Heroes!
Begemot Geroi
Feb 9 2009, 08:17 PM
I kind of like the idea of Sylar having an "apprentice," as it were. I think it has the potential to be a very interesting pairing if it's written properly (though I do think that Sylar will wind up killing Luke before the season ends just because...well, he's Sylar, and he does that).
Ravi
Feb 9 2009, 08:24 PM
I'm probably wrong, because god knows that's been the majority of the case before, but I can't help but believe that Luke's ability is induced radioactivity. The things he described doing sounded just like what Ted Sprague was capable of doing. Further more, Ted proved that he could produce electromagnetic pulse and microwaves are just electromagnetic rays at a certain frequency.
Maitias
Feb 9 2009, 08:28 PM
I'm trademarking "Lylar" right now before the shippers get here.
spideyss2
Feb 9 2009, 08:31 PM
I think I didn't catch all the dialogue, but what did Luke say about his mom and all that? Why was the relationship so awful?
LowerTheBar
Feb 9 2009, 09:15 PM
omg, when Sylar and Luke started having their bond-fest I told me sister "there are always only two: a master and an apprentice." And then she looked at me like I was crazy and called me a big nerd.
Maybe this is the beginning of Sylar's journey to redemption. If he can learn to care about one person, he can learn to care about people in general.
Japert
Feb 9 2009, 09:22 PM
That was actually a really good move for the show, althought It seems a bit forced, I dont know . . . it was an really fast ( daphne fast T.T ) change of heart Luke had.
But Sylar look storyline is gonna be sort of a dark side version of Hiro and Ando xDD
So I hope we get to see some comic relief from them . . . I mean Sylar is sort of funny in a sick way xD
Hordak Alpha
Feb 9 2009, 09:27 PM
Sylar is going to kill the kid for his ability within four episodes. That is my prediction.
SuperChick
Feb 9 2009, 09:45 PM
I LOVE the Star Wars reference here. Let's just hope the apprentice doesn't kill the master. He did overcome his TK in the chair and well... Sylar is too fun to lose.
fierce_almond
Feb 9 2009, 10:16 PM
I'm really hoping this turns out well rather than Sylar killing Luke. I like him.
Imthehero
Feb 9 2009, 10:17 PM
A very creepy series of events, but freaking mindblowing! Sylar has a pet microwave! I was amazed at how dark Sylar was being, but he redeemed himself by not killing anyone this episode. Very nice to see more character development from an already deep character.
aussiebattler16
Feb 9 2009, 10:56 PM
QUOTE (Leek @ Feb 10 2009, 03:13 PM)

I LOVE IT
I have wanted this EXACT situation to happen for SO LONG. I am so excited, I think there is such awesome potential for where they can take this.
And FINALLY it is nice to have a character who knows about Sylar and does NOT think he is hell on two legs. It adds and interesting aspect.
And a character that Sylar genuinely does not want to kill because he "cares" for. I say "cares" because I don't mean it in the conventional sense obviously. Wooo Heroes!
Amen to that Leek

i loved the entire episode, but those scenes were the best
i think he's more like a heat ray rather than radiation
Aces
Feb 10 2009, 06:32 AM
i am excited to see luke added to the story ..at least for however long he lives!
he has a very disturbing power, especially for someone as troubled as him.
Begemot Geroi
Feb 10 2009, 06:41 AM
QUOTE (Hordak Alpha @ Feb 10 2009, 12:27 AM)

Sylar is going to kill the kid for his ability within four episodes. That is my prediction.
I agree with this comment, but four episodes...ehhh, I think Sylar will definitely kill him before the season is over. Maybe not within the next four episodes, though.
Hero Freak
Feb 10 2009, 07:05 AM
It seems that Sylar and the microwave boy have much in common.
Does this mean that Sylar's empathy will kick in and he will gain the boy's power?
RedWolf
Feb 10 2009, 07:19 AM
Well if Luke is Sylar little brother and they do bond like Sylar tried to do with Peter before he found out the truth then this little brother gets killed along with Papa Grey by Nathan's Hunter and goon squads he'll be out for blood.
darkcervantes
Feb 10 2009, 08:47 AM
are you sure Sylar didn't allready get Luke's power? He made him give him a demonstration and everything, maybe he used his empathy during that time to get the power, he also empathized with his single mom situation and all that stuff..maybe he allready has this ability
first luke showed him a demonstration, then he used it again to kill the agent
I think there's a good chance sylar allready has this ability now
AmazingBob
Feb 10 2009, 09:10 AM
QUOTE (darkcervantes @ Feb 10 2009, 11:47 AM)

are you sure Sylar didn't allready get Luke's power? He made him give him a demonstration and everything, maybe he used his empathy during that time to get the power, he also empathized with his single mom situation and all that stuff..maybe he allready has this ability
first luke showed him a demonstration, then he used it again to kill the agent
I think there's a good chance sylar allready has this ability now
Sylar also originally left without killing Luke and taking his power the good old fashion way. So either Sylar had the ability, or he didn't want it which isn't like him. Or possibly Sylar knew that Luke would follow because that's what he would have done.
Either way I hope this character lasts a while. I'm a little tired of characters hitting the dirt with such ease.
godiva
Feb 10 2009, 10:41 AM
Did Luke break Sylar's TK in that scene? If so that would be a first wouldn't it?
Leek
Feb 10 2009, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (godiva @ Feb 10 2009, 01:41 PM)

Did Luke break Sylar's TK in that scene? If so that would be a first wouldn't it?
He broke the mug Sylar was holding, which broke Sylar's concentration, which is what he needs to use and maintain the TK.
GoldSeven
Feb 10 2009, 11:35 AM
I also got the impression that Luke is Sylar's half-brother - but mind you, I got less than half of the dialogue there.
I also find myself agreeing with HordakAlpha (and I think this is a first

), Sylar's going to sylar his pet microwave a lot sooner than the end of the season. I can smell another one of these "whoa, that was fast!"-situations coming...
Inato
Feb 10 2009, 12:03 PM
I don't know. Sylar has already spared the man who he thought was his father and Luke's mother. So he has already shown that he does not have to kill everyone he meets.
The fact that he did not just Sylar the kid after finding out he had an ability suggests that he either knew he could get it with empathy or he no longer feels the need to get every power he comes across. I mean heat ray is cool, but electricity gets similar results and requires less aiming.
LoneHero
Feb 10 2009, 11:28 PM
QUOTE (Inato @ Feb 10 2009, 01:03 PM)

I don't know. Sylar has already spared the man who he thought was his father and Luke's mother. So he has already shown that he does not have to kill everyone he meets.
The fact that he did not just Sylar the kid after finding out he had an ability suggests that he either knew he could get it with empathy or he no longer feels the need to get every power he comes across. I mean heat ray is cool, but electricity gets similar results and requires less aiming.
However both those examples might not have had powers. It could be that the fake poppa grey (Which Is what I'll call him) and Luke's mom both don't have powers. And we know that sylar doesn't usually kill non-powers without cause (Such as getting shot by them). I think Luke's not going to die this season, by Sylar's hands at least. Perhaps the Hunter will kill him, and then Sylar will kill the hunter, preferably in a slow, painful manner.
Raekon
Feb 10 2009, 11:29 PM
How many times need the writers to confirm that Sylar CAN'T take abilities the way peter did?
Why do we have to go through this over and over and over and over everytime sylar comes across a ability and leaves without taking it? Just wondering!
- Sylar CAN connect to someone emotionally IF he manages to understand (IA) the other person and make a connection like in Elles case. AFTER he did he can absorb the power with IA per TOUCH.
This implies that he couldn't have taken Lukes ability.
Other than that they introduced Luke as a violent, rebellious, ungrateful liar that gives all the fault for his actions to his mother so he can have a excuse for it.
His mother seemed to be normal and carrying after all. Of course also ****** on the fact that he always makes trouble no matter what she do asking for a explanation from him WHY he is doing this.
Then sylar comes in trying to convince him that she is lying when she says that she loves and cares for her child even the lying detector doesn't go on when she is saying that twice.

I know that the first time he said "I don't need a ability to see that this is a lie" and she looked ****** off as if she would had been "caught" but the second time she says that you see that its the truth and still gets ignored.
This kinda messed up the scene for me by doing as if it was a "closed case" for sylar and luke anyway like "let mommy talk, no one listens anyway" only so they can make a connection between the evilness of both sylar and luke. :/
Anyway...I think that these two will match well but I'm kinda sure aswell that they will team them only for a few episodes until sylar will decide to kill him and move away. -.-
It was nice to see that luke were able to break free from sylars tk and attack.
Rebel
Feb 11 2009, 12:36 AM
QUOTE (Caffeinedd @ Feb 9 2009, 08:03 PM)

I was wondering if Sylar was going to end up killing him too. He left him alive once, but I can't imagine Sylar parting ways with anyone without killing them. Except for Mohinder, but that was a special bond..
Oh, please...
I hope Luke lives, I'm sure his mother has called various authorities and we'll see more agents coming after Sylar and Luke.
I also think Luke might be Sylar's half brother.
Remember when Sylar says to Luke after he's shown Sylar his power (after Luke says to Sylar "Why do you care?"), "You living half a block down from my father, if that's a coincidence God's improved his sense of humor."
Also Luke calling his mother "a whore" (but saying its why he got into the fight and put into juvie defending his mother's honor).
Maybe I just think dirty but Sylar's comment to Luke and Luke's about his mom got me to thinking...maybe?
I don't think Sylar hurt Luke's mother, because even with their tense relationship neither wants to see the other physically hurt. Luke wouldn't have gone with Sylar if he had.
Shizniddle Snap
Feb 11 2009, 11:43 AM
I like this turn of events. However they play it out I think it will lead to at least a few episodes of very interesting viewing

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p.s. I am trademarking "Syluke" for the shippers. I think it rolls off the tongue better.
override
Feb 12 2009, 12:06 AM
QUOTE (wolfbro @ Feb 9 2009, 07:03 PM)

Luke and Sylar.
I have only one thing to say right now...

batman and robin, bonnie and clyde type thing. Hopefully the kid will realize Sylar is dead weight, and a washed out villain with mommy and daddy issues, and death will be "darth sylar".
gareburger
Feb 12 2009, 07:56 AM
QUOTE (Jumper @ Feb 9 2009, 07:46 PM)

Oh crap I just had a thought...what if Ando were to touch him by mistake?
What if Ando were to touch
ANYONE by mistake
QUOTE (Maitias @ Feb 9 2009, 08:28 PM)

I'm trademarking "Lylar" right now before the shippers get here.
Meh, you know what. This kid Luke isn't really doing it for me just yet, i'll wait another few episodes to decide whether i want him dead or not yet
Rebel
Feb 12 2009, 09:33 PM
Luke and Sylar on the road is going to be more bizarre and wicked fun then a crazed clown with a pants full of angry cats. Ouch.
And there will be pie.
Sayonara
Feb 13 2009, 02:31 AM
QUOTE (jbs829 @ Feb 10 2009, 03:59 AM)

Microwaves only create the molecules of something to speed up, causing them to heat up
Radiation is the decaying of atoms over time
much different than ted's ability
QUOTE (Ravi @ Feb 10 2009, 04:24 AM)

I'm probably wrong, because god knows that's been the majority of the case before, but I can't help but believe that Luke's ability is induced radioactivity. The things he described doing sounded just like what Ted Sprague was capable of doing. Further more, Ted proved that he could produce electromagnetic pulse and microwaves are just electromagnetic rays at a certain frequency.
A microwave is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, like gamma radiation, visible light and x-rays. I'm assuming Ted produced gamma radiation as
A) alpha radiation is extremely short ranged and as low penetrative power

Beta radiation isn't too much different from alpha in terms of strength etc relative to gamma
c)Ted caused an EM pulse, could change the color of his light etc and I expect if he tried hard enough could produce visible, "harmless light" (like the dude in the GN).
So I think it could be possible for Luke to develop his power to control a wider range of the EM spectrum and end up like Ted. I think they have a similar power with the same potential but started at different points of the spectrum, microwave and gamma rays. Hell, there is probably someone with x-rays and someone with infrared to start with.
themightytruk
Feb 13 2009, 03:33 PM
So, it seems Sylar has himself an apprentice. Someone who actually can relate to him and is similarly messed up by the combination of family issues and having a power. Enough so, that Sylar would let him live, which as he said, is a big deal for him. It's not too common that Sylar finds himself a buddy, especially someone this much like him. Should be pretty interesting to Sylar in a mentor sort of role.
It did seem a bit coincidental that Luke had a power and lived right next to Sylar's real father. And Luke seems to know about Sylar's father a good amount as well. Wonder what sort of relationship Luke has to Samson Gray. Seems Luke may be connected in ways we don't know yet.
And Luke's power seems to be a pretty cool new one. Being able to heat objects with microwaves is pretty deadly as we saw, and also has applications beyond that. I like it when we get introduced to new abilities, especially ones that are on this sort of level of usefulness.
FlyingGirl
Feb 23 2009, 03:37 PM
I like the dynamic. I bet five on them being brothers.
Although...... new character with power...... Sylar.......roadtripping............
This had bettern not turn into Maya all over again.
Inato
Feb 23 2009, 04:04 PM
QUOTE (FlyingGirl @ Feb 23 2009, 03:37 PM)

I like the dynamic. I bet five on them being brothers.
Although.... new character with power.... Sylar.....roadtripping......
This had bettern not turn into Maya all over again.
Actually, roadtripping with Sylar has never turned out well. Mohinder in Season 1, Maya in Season 2, Elle in Volume 3.
Luke in volume 4, history is against you dude.
The only difference is that not only has Sylar told Luke exactly what kind of person he is, but periodically reminds him that he is going to betray/kill him.
In short, Luke would fall for that "Give your brother a hug" trick by a random person on the street.
That's right, the writer's have finally created a character dumber than Peter.
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